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Post by Scissorpuppy on May 18, 2009 21:53:17 GMT -5
Not enough in the trailer to tell if it's going to be any good.
A different animation style FINALLY! I'll check it out.
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Post by Conor on Jun 16, 2009 17:34:59 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman/Batman:_Public_EnemiesIt's not confirmed yet but Conroy is apparently Batman, George Newbern is Superman and Clancey Brown is Lex Luthor. I love this cast. I prefer Daly to Newbern but heck either or i'll take it! I know wikipedia is unreliable but just posting. Also, I'd love to see a JLU movie soon!
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Post by Kirok on Jun 16, 2009 17:46:45 GMT -5
I was very surprised to see that Conroy is Batman in this. I'd assumed, since this is a stand-alone adaption of a graphic novel, that they'd go with an entirely new cast ala "Superman: Doomsday" or "Justice League: New Frontier."
However, if Conroy IS Batman then it just stands to reason that Newbern be Superman and Brown be Luthor. (I like Daly too but with Newbern having taken over at the start of "Justice League" it would be odd to switch back to Daly after all these years.)
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Jun 16, 2009 18:25:38 GMT -5
Nah, it's been too long. Daly needs to get back in the tights.
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Post by Kirok on Jun 16, 2009 18:30:41 GMT -5
Well, when he did return to the character after S:TAS we got this  which I've never seen due to the TERRIBLE word of mouth. Not to mention they got Daly back but not Brown or Burton (Brainiac)? They shouldn't have been that hard to get considering they were doing regular work on JLU at the time. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Jun 17, 2009 13:10:09 GMT -5
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Post by Legsy on Jun 17, 2009 13:11:49 GMT -5
I'm so looking forward to this.
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Post by stargazer01 on Jun 28, 2009 19:56:06 GMT -5
Exclusive: The Making of "Superman/Batman: Public Enemies" Superman/Batman: Public Enemies is the new direct-to-DVD animated film from Warner Premier, that has President of the United States Lex Luthor declaring that Superman and, by association, Batman, are enemies of the country and must be brought to justice by any means necessary. Voices From Krypton interviews Jeph Loeb, Tim Daly, Clancy Brown, Stan Berkowitz, Gregory Noveck and more. Based on the storyline from the Superman/Batman comic book, the film poses that a large chunk of the planet Krypton is on a direct-heading for earth, which seems to be all of the ammunition that Luthor needs to bring the Man of Steel down once and for all. “To a large degree, this is Luthor’s story,” offers writer Stan Berkowitz, who adapted the comic. “When you first meet him, it seems that he’s been reformed and is making a real difference in America. It’s just this meteor that screws everything up, and Luthor’s hubris to not want to work with Superman. That’s his fatal flaw in this story. He’s the science nerd who won’t accept the help of the star athlete and he just goes crazy.” Jeph Loeb, who had been writing the Superman comic before launching Superman/Batman, explains that his goal with “Public Enemies” was to deal with the fact that he had made Luthor president. “It was time for Luthor to go,” he says matter of factly. “So that was the big story. At the time, the whole idea was to act as a metaphor for a country insisting there were weapons of mass destruction in another country and then invading that country. Which we all know would be fiction. This was another fictional account of what would happen if the President of the United States decided that something was an imminent threat and would then make sure that people, who were actually innocent, would be hunted down and put into some kind of prison situation. It was a great way to kick off the series, which was to have Luthor offer a billion dollar ransom for the capture of Superman, which meant every villain in the world would come out after him and that anyone who helped him would be convicted as well, which put Batman on the outside — which is where he wanted to be anyway.” The challenge of adaptation, says Berkowitz, was to make it believable that the public would turn against Superman. This was accomplished when it seems that Superman has killed one of his enemies, Metallo, and Luthor makes the claim that the closer this Kryptonite meteor gets to earth, the more impact its radiation will have on Superman, causing him to act irrationally. The general public then becomes paranoid about Superman, making it all the more believable.” Initially President Luthor offers a bounty for Superman’s capture, resulting in numerous villains going out after him. Then he turns to America’s superheroes and, issuing an executive order, has them (including Hawkman and Captain Marvel) try to bring Superman and Batman in, resulting in an incredible super powered smack down that spans a decent part of the film’s running time. “These are violent, powerful, big-fisted, big-muscled fights,” offers supervising producer Michael Goguen. “We had a real strong storyboard crew that just went for it on these big fight scenes. I also think what was really interesting about this film was for us to see Superman, the iconic character, really put at a disadvantage and forced down into Batman’s world, which is fascinating. These characters both have to adapt to things that are not their normal element. It’s definitely a Superman plot in many ways, but a lot of it takes place in Batman’s world with them heading underground and sneaking around. I think in the end, as they work through this together, it says something about these two characters as icons and friends and about why they have this deep connection. In many ways, it’s a powerful story about friendship and loyalty.” Executive Producer Gregory Noveck notes that their desire was to “play the contrast between the two characters. In a lot of ways, I think it’s a more mature approach in that we’re going in with the attitude that our audience, at the very least, has a strong idea of who Batman and Superman are as icons and characters, and if we can play to that and kind of go from there, it gives us room to maneuver and handle the character interactions not only with each other, but with the other characters in the DC universe.” CAST REUNION For longtime fans of the animated TV adventures of Batman and Superman, Public Enemies reunites the voice talents of Kevin Conroy (who began voicing Batman back in the early 1990s on Batman: The Animated Series), Tim Daly (currently starring in Private Practice, but also the voice of the Man of Steel on Superman: The Animated Series in the ‘90s), and character actor Clancy Brown (Lex Luthor on both the Superman and Justice League animated series). “Stepping back into the role of Batman fit like a comfortable glove,” says Conroy. “It was great seeing Tim Daly and Clancy Brown. It’s such a great team and it’s really fun to get back together. It doesn’t happen very often where you get so many people that mesh so well together. “What’s different about playing Batman in this,” he adds, “is that what usually makes the character interesting is that he’s a lone hero. He’s very much an isolated character and audiences really relate to that. That’s part of the appeal. In this, he’s teaming up with Superman and they’re helping each other, which is not something the character did a lot of in previous series. So it was unique in that I was working with Superman and, I might add, saving Superman.” Voicing the last son of Krypton brought with it a fair number of surprises to Daly. “Mostly,” he smiles, “I realized how much I missed voicing Superman. I thought that this particular script was really good and, for those of us who are interested and aware of certain things in our world and our country, I think that it presents a very kind of subtle social commentary. I think that makes it cool and relatively bold for something that’s an animated Superman film. “Doing animation,” he continues, “is always interesting, because you don’t have to all be in the room together. It can be done separately. But it’s always better when you’re in the room, because at that point you are responding to another actor or, in this case, actors. That makes it more real and elevates everyone’s game. Kevin is such a good Batman and, unlike Superman, Batman is pretty cynical. He’s a darker character. When you have those two flavors playing off each other, in real time, there’s a lot more sizzle to it. You’re not in a vacuum. So being in the studio together is definitely helpful. And then there’s Clancy, who has such a beautiful, resonant voice. That, alone, is fantastic, but he’s also a really good actor. Villains are a tremendous amount of fun, because you can really take those characters out there. And Clancy takes Lex wherever he needs to go perfectly — he really has a lot of scenes in this film.” Brown, who has made a career of playing fascinating darker roles, explains that he actually found that he has improved as an actor, and therefore Luthor as a character had evolved since the last time he played him. “He’s a much better, clearer, more subtle character as time passes and I love voicing him,” he enthuses. “Just when I think it’s impossible for him to grow or get better, the writers take him an order of magnitude further. It was a blast. “Lex is subtler, smoother, more politically polished,” Brown continues. “If I had to boil it down, he seems to be a better student of human nature and more willing and equipped to manipulate that knowledge to his ends. He thinks more long term and intricately, which makes him scarier. Look, the ‘bad guy’ never thinks he’s bad. So, personally, I never perceive him simplistically. The context is what makes him subject to that judgment. The fact Lex is President may have been anathema to fans 50 years ago or maybe even 10 year ago, but it’s conceivable now because of what we’ve all experienced collectively. Lex for President makes complete sense. Torture was and still is rationalized. So what’s outrageous about President Lex?” POPCORN ENTERTAINMENT The original Superman/Batman comic was designed to be the equivalent of a summer movie blockbuster, and that certainly seems to be the case with Public Enemies, which combines drama, characterization and spectacle to new heights, as audiences will witness with its September release on DVD. “This is really focused on that main struggle of Superman with Batman to overcome this frame-up that Luthor has done on Superman,” says Goguen. “They’re focused on trying to stop this Kryptonite meteor from hitting earth, in the context of having to clear Superman’s name and being forced to move underground while all the villains and even the heroes are coming after them. That basic story is what we’ve stuck to, making it more of a straight-forward action thriller.” States, Berkowitz, “It’s Superman, it’s Batman, it’s a zillion villains, it’s a meteor crashing towards earth — all of the elements are there, and on top of that you’ve got superhero fights!” “I think the appeal is that you’ve got the two greats icons in comic book history teamed up together for a single adventure,” sums up Noveck. “That’s what everyone wants to see: you want to see Superman and Batman together, arguing and teaming up. It’s Yin and Yang, with plenty of action for both sides and a lot of unexpected twists for the audience. I just think it’s a really fun ride. And this one, more than anything, we wanted to be a fun and great ride.” comicbookmovie.com/fansites/VoicesFromKrypton/news/?a=8288Check the link to see more pics. Hmm, not so happy with the way Supes looks in these pics, though. Hopefully it will look better in action.. darkcommandos.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8354f822a69e2011571686d43970b-pidarkcommandos.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8354f822a69e2011571688741970b-pi
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Post by Conor on Jun 29, 2009 1:15:31 GMT -5
Daly??? Brilliant! Love him. I would have been happy if it was either Newbern or Daly but I'm glad it's Daly. Just that bit more Supermanish although Daly really did shine through during the JLU years!
Clancy as Luthor. Can't ask for a better voice cast TBH! Can't wait to see it.
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Post by stargazer01 on Jun 29, 2009 15:28:23 GMT -5
^Yeah, Clancy as Lex rules. Another Update: Official Press ReleaseBURBANK, CA – The World’s Greatest Super Heroes become America’s most wanted criminals – and are hunted by friends and foes alike – in Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, the sixth entry in the popular DVD series of DC Universe Animated Original PG-13 Movies. A co-production of Warner Premiere, DC Comics and Warner Bros. Animation, the full-length animated film will be distributed by Warner Home Video on September 29, 2009. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies will be available as a Special Edition 2-disc version on DVD and Blu-Ray™ Hi-Def for $24.98 (SRP) and $29.99 (SRP), respectively, as well as single disc DVD for $19.98 (SRP) and On Demand. Order due date for all versions is August 25, 2009. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies is based on the popular Jeph Loeb/Ed McGuinness comic series/graphic novel. Animation legend Bruce Timm (Superman Doomsday, Green Lantern) is executive producer. Michael Goguen (Justice League: The New Frontier) is supervising producer. Sam Liu (The Batman) is directing a script written by Stan Berkowitz (Justice League: The New Frontier). In the film, United States President Lex Luthor uses the oncoming trajectory of a Kryptonite asteroid to frame Superman and declare a $1 billion bounty on the heads of the Man of Steel and his “partner in crime,” Batman. Heroes and villains alike launch a relentless pursuit of Superman and Batman, who must unite – and recruit help – to stave off the action-packed onslaught, stop the asteroid, and uncover Luthor’s devious plot to take command of far more than North America. The movie reunites the lead voices of Superman, Batman and Lex Luthor from the landmark Superman: The Animated Series and Batman: The Animated Series. Tim Daly (Private Practice), Kevin Conroy (Batman: The Animated Series, Justice League) and Clancy Brown (The Shawshank Redemption) reprise their roles as Superman, Batman and Lex Luthor, respectively. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies - 2 Disc Special Edition version will have more than three hours of incredible bonus features, including: Featurettes The Blackest Night: Inside the DC Comics Event: Behind-the-scenes of BLACKEST NIGHT, the epic DC Super Hero event in which the dead shall rise. A Test of Minds: Superman and Batman featurette with Jeph Loeb, giving viewers a fresh and revitalized look at the team-up of Superman and Batman working together despite their often competitive and challenging relationship. “Dinner with DC: With Special Guest Kevin Conroy”: Reprising his role from Batman: The Animated Series, Kevin Conroy joins the crew for dinner to discuss their creative approach and what the Superman/Batman team-up means. The evening will be hosted by Voice Director Andrea Romano, Producer Bruce Timm and DC’s Gregory Noveck Extended Sneak Peak at Next DCU Film Digital Copy Download Widescreen (1.78:1) Two Episodes of Justice League Unlimited hand-picked by animation legend Bruce Timm Superman/Batman: Public Enemies Blu-Ray versions will have more than three-and-a-half hours of bonus materials, including all the great extras from the 2-disc Special Edition as well as two additional episodes of Justice League Unlimited and two episodes from Justice League, both personally selected by fan-favorite Bruce Timm. “Warner Premiere is excited to continue this successful partnership with DC Comics, Warner Bros. Animation and Warner Home Video to present feature-length PG-13 animated original films with the filmmaking and celebrity voice starpower of Superman/Batman: Public Enemies,” said Matt Bierman, Senior Vice President Production, Warner Premiere. “Based on the past success of Superman Doomsday and Batman Gotham Knight, we know the pairing of the Man of Steel and the Dark Knight – pitted against both their DC Super Hero colleagues and the entire rogue’s gallery of DC villains – will offer fans the level of entertainment normally reserved for the big, summer blockbuster films,” said Amit Desai, WHV Vice President of Family, Animation & Partner Brands. “This is the ultimate film for DC animation lovers featuring not only the cornerstone characters of comic book and Saturday morning heroes, but also returns the seminal voices of those characters – Tim Daly, Kevin Conroy and Clancy Brown – in a story that explores the Superman/Batman dynamic and allows Lex Luthor to shine in ultimate villainy,” said Gregory Noveck, Senior VP Creative Affairs, DC Comics. Marketing Support Superman/Batman: Public Enemies will be extensively marketed with a robust national TV, Print, Radio and Online media campaign generating over 500 million impressions! The campaign will also include trailering on WHV titles to garner an additional 10 million impressions. Exciting promotions with Xbox Live, iTunes, Amazon and the Sony Playstation Network will drive strong consumer awareness and demand amongst the core fan base. Additionally, the dedicated Superman/Batman: Public Enemies website will include an enticing sweepstakes offer to drive traffic and viral activity. BASICS Superman/Batman: Public Enemies - Single Disc Street Date: September 29, 2009 Order Due Date: August 25, 2009 Languages: English and Spanish Audio: Dolby Surround Stereo Rating: PG-13 Runtime: Estimated 75 min. Price: $19.98 SRP / No MAP UPC: 883929069934 Superman/Batman: Public Enemies – 2 Disc Special Edition Street Date: September 29, 2009 Order Due Date: August 25, 2009 Languages: English and Spanish Audio: Dolby Surround Stereo Rating: PG-13 Runtimes: Disc 1 – Estimated 75 min. Disc 2 – Estimated 180+ minutes Price: $24.98 SRP / No MAP UPC: 883929069927 Superman/Batman: Public Enemies – Blu-Ray™ Hi-Def Street Date: September 29, 2009 Order Due Date: August 25, 2009 Languages: English and Spanish Audio: Dolby Surround Stereo Rating: PG-13 Runtimes: Disc 1 – Estimated 75 min. Disc 2 – Estimated 210+ minutes Price: $29.99 SRP / No MAP UPC: 883929070626 comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21811. |
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Post by Conor on Jun 29, 2009 15:32:15 GMT -5
Cannot wait! At least this WB/DC Department have their act together!  |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jun 29, 2009 19:51:15 GMT -5
Daly and Conroy? Sold.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2009 21:55:15 GMT -5
Ditto.
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Post by Legsy on Jun 30, 2009 16:09:45 GMT -5
Cannot wait! At least this WB/DC Department have their act together! They do, the last bad DVD they released was Brainiac Attacks. |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jun 30, 2009 21:34:55 GMT -5
Well, I HATED Superman/Doomsday. Hated it. Found it completely devoid of...anything at all.
But, I never bothered with Brainiac Attacks so I have nothing to compare it to.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jun 30, 2009 22:41:41 GMT -5
Well, I HATED Superman/Doomsday. Hated it. Found it completely devoid of...anything at all. But, I never bothered with Brainiac Attacks so I have nothing to compare it to. uh.... if you have a low opinion of " superman doomsday " .... just don't ...DONT DONT DONT watch brainiac attacks !! seriously- it will make your brain HURT . |
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Post by Conor on Jul 1, 2009 1:24:29 GMT -5
Cannot wait! At least this WB/DC Department have their act together! They do, the last bad DVD they released was Brainiac Attacks. Yeah I know but Brainaic Attacks wasn't part of the Timmverse. The guy who directed it "borrowed" Tims animation style. Don't know why Daly bothered with it. It was AWFUL! So so bad! Doomsday wasn't too bad. Wonderwoman was brilliant. Wasn't too fond of Gotham Knight. Green Lantern looks cool as heck. JL:NF was pretty damn goo but hated the Batman voice. Still, can't wait for this! |
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Post by stargazer01 on Jul 1, 2009 2:05:05 GMT -5
Enjoyed both Superman: Doomsday and Justice League: NF. Good movies, imo. Haven't seen Gotham Knight. Bought Wonder Woman but haven't seen it. I'm waiting to see it with a nephew of mine who ADORES her. Will get this new one. Sounds like a lot of fun. Not a big fan of the huge muscles, though. ;D Will probably also get the Green Lantern one. My son likes him and the other Lanterns. Official Site: www.warnervideo.com/supermanbatmandvd/Cover artwork:  Hey, at least Supie is still featured in cartoons. |
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Post by MAVERICK on Jul 1, 2009 2:52:59 GMT -5
God I DESPISE that style of artwork.
And fuck the bastard that came up with putting those stupid Bat-Shaped eyebrows on everyone.
The stroy better be good enough to make up for the piss poor art.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jul 1, 2009 6:09:18 GMT -5
Still think DC/WB has screwed the pooch not putting these in Timm-verse continuity.
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Post by downwithrouth on Jul 1, 2009 10:18:24 GMT -5
Love Ed McGuinness' artwork, and it looks really impressive in animation. Superman hasn't looked that good in a long, long time. The Wayne Boring-meets-Carl Barks art style goes a long way toward shaking the stigma that Superman is your grandpa's hero. (Too bad Batman has to tag along, but if I have to suffer him to get an animated McGuinness Superman, I'll bite the bullet.)
As far as "Everything should be Timmverse or nothing," I don't agree at all. I don't see a need to shoehorn everything into the JLU timeline, and frankly that way of thinking smacks of the same selfish attitude that every single comic book story should be forced to fit one post-Crisis "continuity" and individual takes on the characters are a bad thing. In other words, it's fanboy entitlement that's totally unfair to the creators. I'd rather have good stories and good cartoons/movies than slavish "continuity" that restricts everything and anything.
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Post by stargazer01 on Jul 1, 2009 12:45:28 GMT -5
God I DESPISE that style of artwork. And fuck the bastard that came up with putting those stupid Bat-Shaped eyebrows on everyone.The stroy better be good enough to make up for the piss poor art. Yup. Don't like those, and the shape of the nose, and those over the top muscles, sigh. He doesn't look graceful at all, on the contrary, he looks pissed.. I hope he smiles a little in the actual flick. |
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Post by Legsy on Jul 1, 2009 12:50:19 GMT -5
I dunno, I like it a lot.  |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jul 1, 2009 18:42:41 GMT -5
Hey, DTR, you won't find a bigger opponent of "Fanboy Entitlement" on this board than me, so lose the tone.
Since I have, you know, a life outside the internet, I don't always have time to articulate my points on a friggin' SUPERMAN MESSAGE BOARD as well as I'd like to. But I've got a minute now, so allow me to elaborate.
When this series of DVD features was announced at San Diego (in 06? 05?), it was said that they were not going to be Timmverse continuity, but would be adaptations of DC's best works, featuring animation styles similar to that of the artists who created those works. Didn't happen. Fine. (except the superb New Frontier, which is another story entirely)
Superman/Doomsday looked rushed, and the differences between the Timmverse style were cosmetic. And the voice cast was dreadful. One wouldn't have had to acknowledge JLU continuity in order to tell that story effectively, and it would have had the added weight of knowing those stories were behind it if it had a consistent look with that series, and the old voice cast back. Cause, guess what? ONLY FANS OF THE DC ANIMATED UNIVERSE BUY THIS CRAP ANYWAY.
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Post by stargazer01 on Jul 17, 2009 19:14:09 GMT -5
Read this over at SHH,
Allison Mack as Powergirl
LeVar Burton as Black Lightning
Ricardo Chavira as Major Force
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