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Post by stargazer01 on May 4, 2009 0:33:11 GMT -5
Quentin Tarantino Calls Inglourious Basterds a “Masterpiece.” Writing Epic Review of Superman Returns?Of more curious note, QT says that he’s working on a 20-page review of Bryan Singer’s Superman Returns, a film he’s quite passionate and protective over. www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/03/quentin-tarantino-calls-inglourious-basterds-a-masterpiece-writing-epic-review-of-superman-returns/I'd LOVE to read it! I remember when Brandon won as best superhero at the Scream Awards 2006, and Tarantino, who also attended the event, seemed really happy for him. Any one remember that? Edit: Found the interview, www.nytimes.com/indexes/2009/05/03/style/t/index.html#pagewanted=0&pageName=03taranw&This is part of it, Quentin, when did you first become aware of the Cannes Film Festival?As a film enthusiast growing up in Los Angeles, I’ll say by 13, 14, I already knew about Cannes. I think the first movie that I knew of that had won the Palme d’Or was ‘‘Apocalypse Now’’ in 1979. Life magazine did a whole big thing on it, with Brando on the cover in his bald head. I still have that issue. To me, that movie proved that when you make a great, terrific film, you take it to Cannes. That is your premier screening — your Ali-knocks-Foreman-out screening. What was the screening like of ‘‘Pulp Fiction,’’ which won the Palme d’Or? It certainly wasn’t, Oh, they’re going to win this, this is obviously the movie of its time. The violence was not 100 percent accepted, and there were some boos at the end. They were reacting against the idea that this could be considered art. Who was the head of the jury?Clint Eastwood. And the second head of the jury was Catherine Deneuve. I think of her as the queen of France. So having the queen judge your movie is scary until you remember that she did ‘‘Belle de Jour.’’ She turned out to be one of my bigger defenders. She’s spent an entire career supporting directors who pushed the envelope, from Buñuel to Jean-Pierre Melville to Godard. You were head of the jury in 2004. Whom did you award the Palme d’Or? ‘ ‘Fahrenheit 9/11.’’ You know what? As time has gone on, I’ve put that decision under a microscope and I still think we were right. That was a movie of the moment — ‘‘Fahrenheit 9/11’’ may not play the same way now as it did then, but back then it deserved everything it got. Did you like being on the jury? I loved it. I enjoy arguing. There was one year when I visited Cannes, and I was so caught up in the spirit that I picked 12 movies that I had never seen from all different countries and I watched them and did my own little awards thing. Can I tell you the movie that won? ‘‘Perfume’’ by Tom Tykwer. ‘‘Perfume’’ won my own little Cannes Film Festival. In your festival, who won best director? Bryan Singer for ‘‘Superman Returns.’’ I am a big fan of ‘‘Returns.’’ I’m working on what is now a 20-page review of that movie, and I’m not done yet.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 4, 2009 0:59:00 GMT -5
That's amazing. Great post, I totally would have missed this- I hope Tarantino doesn't get distracted and that he does finish it...
...although, it's a pity that Tarantino probably doesn't have the same influence as he might have had in the past in Hollywood, at his peak, before the giant failure of "Grindhouse".
Still, I had no idea that he liked "Superman Returns"- and it's great that Tarantino gives a stamp of his approval--- with so many directors out there that may or may not be waiting for another director to fail, it's cool to see Tarantino willing to lavish praise on a film that may not necessarily benefit him career-wise one bit.
(*I'm assuming there's no ulterior career motive to praise SR-- but then again, he's praised a LOT of obscure films in the past that also didn't seem to have any career-boosting juice, so his love of films and praise of such seem pretty genuine, and that's very cool to see in a Hollywood pro.)
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Post by belloq on May 4, 2009 1:48:06 GMT -5
I've always listened to Tarantino more than I have any film critic. Would love to see his Superman Returns review. He knows his shit. I remember when the Dawn Of The Dead remake came out Tarantino said that Zack Snyder would be huge.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 4, 2009 2:04:13 GMT -5
He is passionate about it. Yeah, I know the feeling.
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Post by supes78 on May 4, 2009 12:13:53 GMT -5
He's passionate about SR, yet he's waited 3 years to write a review?
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Post by MAVERICK on May 4, 2009 12:21:06 GMT -5
Trust me, it takes Tarantino this long to do ANYTHING. ;D We still dont have the promised Kill Bill complete saga DVD. That hes been working on for the last 4 years
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Post by ye5man on May 4, 2009 12:29:07 GMT -5
I'd much rather read his take on Casino Royale...
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Post by Legsy on May 4, 2009 14:24:45 GMT -5
Trust me, it takes Tarantino this long to do ANYTHING. ;D We still dont have the promised Kill Bill complete saga DVD. That hes been working on for the last 4 years ;D ;D ;D So true.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 15:56:16 GMT -5
It'll definitely be an interesting read. I couldn't help but say, "Uh...what?" when I read this post, I mean...Tarantino and Superman Returns? Ooookay...
And a 20 page review?!? Oooooooooookaaaaaay......
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Post by ye5man on May 4, 2009 16:43:56 GMT -5
I'd much rather read a Donner review of the film.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 4, 2009 16:56:43 GMT -5
I know, kevin, I thought the same thing, but then I remembered how happy Tarantino looked when they announced Brandon as best superhero at the Scream Awards. Also, you never know with people; they seem one way on the outside but are completely different when you get to know them.
And ye5man, Donner loved SR. But I guess you already knew that.
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Post by MerM on May 4, 2009 18:01:40 GMT -5
Trust me, it takes Tarantino this long to do ANYTHING. ;D We still dont have the promised Kill Bill complete saga DVD. That hes been working on for the last 4 years Or the theatrical version of Grindhouse.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 4, 2009 19:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by Ollie W on May 4, 2009 21:37:08 GMT -5
And ye5man, Donner loved SR. But I guess you already knew that. Donner's a friend of Singer's. Publicly he was always going to heap praise on Singer. However given Donner's distaste of CGI in interviews over the years I highly doubt he truly enjoyed it. What was it Donner said; if you don't believe a man can fly you don't have a movie.
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Post by MAVERICK on May 4, 2009 21:47:20 GMT -5
Hooray for baseless assumptions about what Donner thinks, to support your own opinions!
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Post by stargazer01 on May 4, 2009 21:55:49 GMT -5
I'll reply to your post later, Ollie W. Sorry, but I'm pretty busy right now watching "Superman Returns" on FX (pacific time) and guys they are showing a bunch of segments from the DVD extras (Requiem For Krypton)!!!! Right now Clark is still in Smallville --- "that place is a graveyard.." Just wanted to let you know.
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Post by EvilSupes on May 5, 2009 0:05:01 GMT -5
Hooray for baseless assumptions about what Donner thinks, to support your own opinions! LOL at that lama emoticon! ;D
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 5, 2009 1:19:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised to hear this. SR was SO much a love letter to STM, that there were even parts where I thought "uh, this is a little bit overboard in its honoring STM".
How could Donner NOT love SR? With so many directors that have come on board wanting to change every choice Donner made, having Singer embrace (and in many cases duplicate/upgrade) so many of his choices--- from Williams' music, to title credits, to hairstyles of Clark, to the look of the Kent home and the Fortress of Solitude, to (unfortunately) Lex's 'land land land' obsession......
Also, with cutting through the legal red tape of the Brando footage, it also probably made the Brando footage more possible for the Donner cut---
I don't think (as some people mention) it's the same movie as STM, but it definitely embraces a lot of what Donner chose to do. If Donner didn't like SR, on some level, it'd be like disliking a clone (or an identical twin) of oneself.
Even if Donner has distaste for CGI (he probably does), the heart of SR is about the internal drama and the characters. Unless Tom Mankiewicz or Mrs. Donner came out and said, "oh, Richard really hates SR, but is just saying he likes it publicly because he's Bryan's friend."--- then it may have some weight.
I enjoy many of your posts, Ollie W.--- but do you have any other evidence that would support Donner's dislike of SR?
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Post by belloq on May 5, 2009 1:46:33 GMT -5
He's passionate about SR, yet he's waited 3 years to write a review? If anything, it shows that he's uber-passionate if he's still talking about it and still writing a review after 3 years. If he wasn't nuts about it he'd've forgotten it by now.
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Post by ye5man on May 5, 2009 3:24:03 GMT -5
A love letter to my favourite movie - how come I don't love it? I've only seen it all the way through 4 times.
I'd love to know what Donner really thinks
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 5, 2009 10:29:45 GMT -5
Well.... the reason you want to know what Donner 'really' thinks is because you didn't love SR and can't believe he did, and so he's not telling the truth?
If Donner didn't really like SR, yet asked for the audience at Comicon to give Singer a standing ovation for SR---- it's a bit much for someone to say, if he REALLY didn't like it.
Being a friend is one thing, but it doesn't require asking others to stand up and give the highest praise for it. Plus, you're not getting my perspective. Having a fellow filmmaker take all of the same artistic choices and pay homage to it by duplicating/using it, is more or less the ultimate compliment to a filmmaker. Singer has never said, "Every other filmmaker has done Superman wrong, therefore I'll change everything Donner did and show him the RIGHT way to do it."
Singer did the opposite, which actually is very humble by Hollywood standards. No bizzaro Superman costumes, no giant spiders, no Nicolas Cage Superman. He stayed with the Williams music, the credits, the casting, the costume (for the most part), the Kent farm, Brando as Jor-el (!!!), even tiny touches that Donner did (Clark having problems with revolving doors) were there.
When you recognize so many tiny nods to your own work, wouldn't you feel flattered? Not saying as a fan, but for a filmmaker who had interpreted the work in the first place.
Open to more debate, but debate needs stronger arguments. If you didn't like it, that's totally your right...but... "I didn't like it so it's not possible that he didn't like it- so he can't POSSIBLY be telling the truth" makes little sense.
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Post by ye5man on May 5, 2009 11:53:29 GMT -5
I want to know what Donner really thinks of the movie, nothing more, nothing less.
If you want to take more from that statement, then that's your own design.
Wow, where did that come from? You're right, it doesn't make any sense. You really believe I think others are not entitled to their opinions? Do you really think I am that small minded?
Wow.
I didn't "not like" it by the way. I found most of it "eh". Don't be like some of the fanboys on this board; recognise there are grey areas in between 'like' and 'don't like'.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 5, 2009 12:12:12 GMT -5
And ye5man, Donner loved SR. But I guess you already knew that. Donner's a friend of Singer's. Publicly he was always going to heap praise on Singer. However given Donner's distaste of CGI in interviews over the years I highly doubt he truly enjoyed it. What was it Donner said; if you don't believe a man can fly you don't have a movie. This is what Donner said on SR back in 2006, "Christopher Reeve established something that is and will always be unique, but there is a new young man out there who's a bit of a genius. He's done a beautiful job." "Routh is wonderful," says the veteran film-maker, who recently directed 16 Blocks. "He's brought his own identity to the role, and he is Superman." "There are times when there is an uncanny similarity to Chris. And there are times, believe it or not, I swear that he sounds like him." "Bryan is a good director. The special effects are not overused. He does what needs to be done, but doesn't make it something that's overly produced." "He's used (CGI) wisely and conservatively, and concentrated on the relationship between Clark Kent and Lois Lane, which I thought was amazing." "We made the original Superman with all the elements that were available in motion picture making at the time," he says, "and I think we did a heck of a good job with it." "But what Bryan Singer has done with what is available to him now is a miracle to me." "The picture's good. It was a two and a half hour movie, but I could have easily taken another hour and a half. I think they'll go onto make a series of wonderful films." news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5164424.stmHe also talked a little bit about it last year, "I do think you could probably take Superman into some other areas today. I think maybe it's ready to break the mold slightly and bring a little greater sense of reality into it. Not contemporizing it to like today. Just making the heavies -- and the situation that is the tension piece -- a little more broken away from the comic-book character. It would take some tricky writing, some good acting and some good directing." Bryan Singer's 2006 film, "Superman Returns," felt like a valentine to the Donner work on Superman and the older director received it with fondness. "I totally enjoyed it. I saw it just that once. I went to the theater not knowing anything. Bryan and I had spoken many times before but I didn't want to know anything about the film. I went as the audience. And I thought, 'Wow, he really nailed it.' There's that one scene, when that piano slid across the floor on the boat? I was startled. It was great." latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/10/richard-donner.html Also, back in 2006, I read somewhere (I think it was at Superman Thru the Ages) a quote by Donner that went like this: "By God, only Bryan Singer should make Superman films." I'm sure there must be more articles on the subject but these are the ones I remember right now. And honestly, it sounds to me like Donner really liked the movie. And that's easy for me to believe.
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Post by atp on May 5, 2009 12:56:59 GMT -5
However given Donner's distaste of CGI Is that why he refused to finish Superman 2?
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Post by adam15 on May 5, 2009 13:04:22 GMT -5
LOL
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