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Post by adam15 on May 18, 2009 15:19:51 GMT -5
When I was very little I used to get very nervous during the Niagra Falls scene... for some reason I always got all antsy when the kid was dangling off the ledge.... I would actually run out of the room and only realise it was safe to return when I heard the triumphant Superman music and Superman was saving the boy.
Did this, or any other scene make anyone scared/nervous?
Prolly a lot of you are gonna say the Vera robot scene, for some reason that scene never fazed me in the slightest... but then again I didn't see SIII until a bit later in life but still pretty young.
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Post by Jimbo on May 18, 2009 15:23:59 GMT -5
It still makes me cringe. But OK, aside from Robo-Vera, another one is when Superman is depowered in the true Superman II. You see his body deconstruct itself. When it goes to his sinews, ack. Plus, the stop-motion animation aspect to it always makes it a bit unsettling.
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 18, 2009 15:54:54 GMT -5
"you have shown me pleasures..."
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Post by Legsy on May 18, 2009 16:02:21 GMT -5
It still makes me cringe. I was five years old when I first saw Superman III with my pops at the theater. There were two things that scared me about Superman III. One was Evil Supes and the other was Verabot. "you have shown me pleasures..." ;D
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Post by adam15 on May 18, 2009 19:07:25 GMT -5
A scary part was also when Nuclear man roars on the moon before Superman flies into him and tries to penatrate him!
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 18, 2009 19:11:12 GMT -5
The moment when E.G. Marshall comes out in Superman 2 appears in the Oval office with that fake looking rug on his head and says, "I am the President.", chills me to this very day.
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Post by adam15 on May 18, 2009 19:13:35 GMT -5
Was the guy who was the 'fake' President the Vice President?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 18, 2009 19:24:04 GMT -5
Unlikely, if they wanted to be realistic. Smart thing would have been to keep the vice in an undisclosed separate location. In history, I recall that there was a close instance wherein the U.S. President and his vice president were on the same plane- and the idea was that if something had happened to the plane, that wouldn't be good---- therefore, since then, most of the time the two have mostly been kept separate, in case something happens to one or the other.
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Post by TylerDurden389 on May 18, 2009 20:10:28 GMT -5
Funny how both Superman 1 and 2 were my favorite movies as a kid, yet there were parts that scared me. Though come to think of it, quiet a few movies I liked as a kid had scary moments (Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Neverending Story, Willow, E.T. just to name a few).
As far as which scenes scared me, you guys pretty much covered all of them. I also used to get scared when Non would catch the rocket and bend it in half. Some of the faces Nuclear man would make (like when his eyes would light up) scared me as well.
One part stood out the most though. The end of part 1 when Superman screams after Lois died. Maybe it was the close-up of his face, the dark shadowing, or maybe the scream itself with that echo effect. All I know is that probably scared me more than the Vera-bot, and the theatrical depowering combined.
Of course that moment has been ruined with the new 2001 audio, where Thau just HAD to put the "whoosh" sound over the scream. I even have the 3 hour cut on video tape and that part is still ruined because it cuts to commercial.
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Post by belloq on May 19, 2009 14:12:20 GMT -5
The moment when E.G. Marshall comes out in Superman 2 appears in the Oval office with that fake looking rug on his head and says, "I am the President.", chills me to this very day. Absolutely. For me, thats the moment in the movie where I kinda forget all of the humor and comic book villainy associated with Zod and think, "this is one truly evil mother." Something very creepy and disturbing about the quietness of that scene. It really sets the tone for the rest of it IMO.
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Post by Jack Tripper on May 19, 2009 14:32:37 GMT -5
never got scared from anything in the superman movies.
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Post by MAVERICK on May 19, 2009 14:59:34 GMT -5
The moment when E.G. Marshall comes out in Superman 2 appears in the Oval office with that fake looking rug on his head and says, "I am the President.", chills me to this very day. Absolutely. For me, thats the moment in the movie where I kinda forget all of the humor and comic book villainy associated with Zod and think, "this is one truly evil mother." Something very creepy and disturbing about the quietness of that scene. It really sets the tone for the rest of it IMO. I'm with Cam & Belloq. It gets real in that moment. Brings you back down to the core: This is a fucking alien invasion, & we are outmatched. The music sells that whole scene as well. But, yeah, Belloq nailed it. Its the quietness.
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Post by MAVERICK on May 19, 2009 15:17:15 GMT -5
Good thread topic btw, Adam.
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Post by adam15 on May 19, 2009 15:22:34 GMT -5
Yeah that Oval Office scene was incredible, dark omininous.... it's a good thing that this Donner-shot villian material comes AFTER the silly Lester stuff in Houston.... it kinda makes up for it.
I wouldn't say I was ever 'scared' of this scene. But that ice-cold reading of "It will (save lives) starting with your own." How freaking evil is that??
That is why I can't understand (my HUMBLE-HUMBLE-HUMBLE opinion)why some folks don't like a comical Luthor in STM and SII; he's supposed to be funny and likeable to counter-balance Zod who is pure evil. Of course Lester kinda ruined this contrast.
Funny how Donner (who took the material seriously) shot a lot of the comical parts of SII with Luthor while Lester (who took things in a lighthearted manner) was tasked with doing all the serious scenes like the Villians conquest of Earth and the Metropolis battle! Maybe that's why the threatrical cuts gels as well as it does, the directors kinda meet in the middle...
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Post by ye5man on May 19, 2009 17:37:05 GMT -5
I thought one quick shot was very effective: in SIII when CK is in the crusher (the one he bench presses out) and the shot is from his POV and we see the evil Supes at the control panel, like the last thing he'll ever see. "You have shown me pleasures!" - LOL!!! has Singer elaborated on this line? The mental images it conjures
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Post by EvilSupes on May 19, 2009 17:47:08 GMT -5
Robo-Vera definitely was a very weird thing to witness in a superman movie, and the image remained implanted into my head for a long time. ;D
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Post by Jimbo on May 19, 2009 17:51:08 GMT -5
It's not even the appearance of Robo-Vera in the makeup. It's the jerky inhuman movements. Uncanny Valley to the extreeeeeeeme.
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Post by adam15 on May 19, 2009 18:49:14 GMT -5
I thought one quick shot was very effective: in SIII when CK is in the crusher (the one he bench presses out) and the shot is from his POV and we see the evil Supes at the control panel, like the last thing he'll ever see. "You have shown me pleasures!" - LOL!!! has Singer elaborated on this line? The mental images it conjures You have shown me pleasures? Where is this from?
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Post by HOSNI on May 19, 2009 19:57:38 GMT -5
Ursa's performance on the moon used to freak me out a little when I was a young lad.
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Post by Kal-Ex on May 27, 2009 16:34:12 GMT -5
Ursa's performance on the moon used to freak me out a little when I was a young lad. I’m agree with you… the whole moon sequence is scary… Zod who kick the astronaut in the universe!! And like almost everybody, Vera-robot used to scared me when I was a kid. My young nephew saw SIII last year and wasn’t able to watch that scene. Oh and also the opening sequence of SII with Jor-el and the jury, Zod svreaming, the phantom zone mirror…
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Post by inebriated87 on May 27, 2009 18:38:57 GMT -5
How cathartic ...
I - the end of the destruction of krypton scene, where everyone is falling and screaming, the awful chaos was upsetting when I was young ... now it's awesome ! But I still don't like where the cop gets shoved under the train. I used to wonder whether the wheels went over his nuts.
II - the moon killings were cold-blooded, didn't like that at all... very effective scene though. That's how the villains were supposed to be. I always loved the Oval Office scene, never scared me.
III - Robo Vera I didnt find that bad to watch ... Clark struggling to breathe in the crusher is one of the worst moments in all the movies ... another ball breaker scene. The mangler at the end of the junkyard scene never bothered me.
IV - After Nuclear Man scratches Supes, he then puts the boot in, which I always hated. Also hate the moon scene where, having thrown supes, he zaps him with his eye beams - but I later realised the orange zaps were only added to disguise the wires. Furthermore, although it's not a scary moment, I have always dreaded the first encounter between the two as they fall from Lex's penthouse - because of the terrible cut-n-paste effect which followed.
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Post by EnriqueH on May 27, 2009 19:38:30 GMT -5
I don't know if it was the volume on the TV that day, but I remember Zod's shouting scared the shit outta me when I was little. The way it focused on his crazed eyes and shouting mouth.
All the shit involving Krypton's destruction bothered me. That has to be one of the most horrifying death scenes ever. Losing the ground beneath you, falling to your death with fire and brimstone and a huge explosion. SOMEBODY really hated those Kryptonians. Poor people.
In fact, I remember the first half of STM being pretty fucking intense. The whole thing with his dad dying and leaving home was so damn emotional. I still have trouble watching it to this day. I remember as a kid, I always used to feel so much more relaxed when we got to Metropolis.
That's probably why I enjoy SII more. Same characters, more action, less intense for a kid.
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Post by fggafagas on May 27, 2009 22:54:36 GMT -5
I'd say the moon scene from Superman II was the scariest and most brutal scene in the series.
Vera's transformation is kindof disturbing, but once she comes out, it looks like a robot out of a 50s b flick. It's the wild hair and stiff walk and campy music that does it.
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Post by SamH9303 on May 28, 2009 16:24:33 GMT -5
When I was very young I can always remember getting a fright from Chris's Scream as he flies away from Lois's body at the scene of the earthquake,
and like many of you, the transformation to robo vera in SIII haunted me terribly, nightmares i think aswell
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Post by EnriqueH on May 28, 2009 18:19:18 GMT -5
My mom and dad didn't let me watch Robo Vera until I was older.
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