Supergirl The Movie

[fggafagas]

Quite a few times, I watch a movie and I think it's good or alright, but then read a lot of negative reviews and comments. I'm left wondering if it's really all that bad and deserving of the criticism.

I think Supergirl is a pretty good movie. Not as good as Superman and Superman II, but still acceptable. My main problems with it has always centered around the location of Argo City. "Innerspace"? What does that mean? Is it another dimension? Martin Short's stomach? And why does Supergirl exit this innerspace through a lake on earth? It's just odd. An explanation of what Argo's relation to Krypton is would be nice too. We know what it is if we're halfway familiar with the Superman mythos, but most viewers probably don't.

Otherwise, it's a good movie. Nothing all that original or deep, but entertaining. It has mostly great effects and a great soundtrack, most of the cast does well, and overall I like the more fantasy oriented storyline.

[Ollie W]

My main problem with Supergirl is the story which boarders too much on fantasy. Selena and her black magic was laughable.

I love Slater in the leading role, the effects are excellent and the score is wonderful. But other than that it's a mess.

What bothers me is when filmmakers tip toe around the lack of success of the film by saying that the audience simply wasn't ready for a female Superhero. When in all honesty it just wasn't done right.

[fggafagas]

Aug 26, 2008 5:03:45 GMT -5 Ollie W said:

My main problem with Supergirl is the story which boarders too much on fantasy. Selena and her black magic was laughable.

I love Slater in the leading role, the effects are excellent and the score is wonderful. But other than that it's a mess.

What bothers me is when filmmakers tip toe around the lack of success of the film by saying that the audience simply wasn't ready for a female Superhero. When in all honesty it just wasn't done right.

Fantasy's fine by me. There's plenty of magic and sorcery in the comics.

This is off the subject of the critical reaction to Supergirl, but it's Supergirl related and I didn't want to make another topic about something so trivial. At one point in Superman II, a voice double is used for Zod, during the Metropolis Battle, when Zod said "wait there." Doesn't that sound exactly like Peter Cook (Nigel in Supergirl)?

[crazy_asian_man]

The problem with the movie (for me) was the script-
There's a ton of story problems that have no logic, and using the villain as camp sealed the deal. (i.e.- why would Kara/the audience care about the girl's school hijinx in the film? Ugh.)

There are fun bits to enjoy (Slater and O'toole are great, in particular), but it's just bad otherwise. The original script was better (with Superman/Reeve), but even then, it wasn't spectacular.

Still--- cool to see the comic book character in the flesh.

[MAVERICK]

There are only 3 good things about the movie.

Helen Slater.

The Costume.

The Music.

Everything else is lunacy.

[Legsy]

It just seemed like Ilya and co were high on cocaine through out the production. The movie was rubbish, but like MAV mentioned, it had its moments. Slater, the costume, the wire work and the music come to mind. And that's it for me.

[Jimbo]

Peter Cook, when I see him in this movie, I'm picturing:



"Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday"

"Wuuuuv, twuuuu wuuuv, will fowow you foweva...."

[Olly H 82]

the main problem is the script, its a mess. Because it originally was gonna have Superman in it as a secondary character and then Chris Reeve bailed out at the last minute they had to quickly changes things to deliver a new script without Superman.
Oh and David Odell is a pretty crap screen writer.

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My problem is that the skirt is too damn long.

[MAVERICK]

Legsy is right, the flying is great.



Brad is also right, skirt too long.

[Legsy]

Boobies.
;D

[Tristan D]

I like it. I showed it to my friends as one of our 'bad movie nights' but they said it was not bad, just mediocre. Which I think is fair. It is by far not as bad as people make out.

I think a lot of people don't like the female fantasy side of it. If you like Alice in Wonderland, The Wizard of Oz, Labyrinth or Spirited Away, you'll probably enjoy the film on some level.

I think Helen Slater put a good point across in the UE documentary. It did fail to really show a fully fleshed rite of passage story. And the plot was fairly disjointed.

Her skirt seems huge in some scenes.

[Jor-L5150]

Aug 26, 2008 11:34:26 GMT -5 Jimbo said:

Peter Cook, when I see him in this movie, I'm picturing:



"Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday"

"Wuuuuv, twuuuu wuuuv, will fowow you foweva...."

inconcievable!!!!

[SGB]

"Supergirl" is undoubtedly a flawed film, but remains a guilty pleasure film for me for several reasons ...

1. Helen Slater

2. Jerry Goldsmith's terrific score. Shame FSM has no desire to release a complete "Supergirl" score. It really deserves one.

3. The flying ballet sequence. A great scene with wonderful music. Really love the cue that's heard when we first see the horses and Supergirl flies over them.

4. Terrific flying scenes. Puts all of SR's to shame.

[joey m]

It's way too long for such a simple story, and the end is weak and lacks the kind of character payoff that Slater was talking about. Other than that it's really not that bad.

[Legsy]

Aug 26, 2008 23:20:10 GMT -5 SGB said:

"Supergirl" is undoubtedly a flawed film, but remains a guilty pleasure film for me for several reasons ...

1. Helen Slater

2. Jerry Goldsmith's terrific score. Shame FSM has no desire to release a complete "Supergirl" score. It really deserves one.

3. The flying ballet sequence. A great scene with wonderful music. Really love the cue that's heard when we first see the horses and Supergirl flies over them.

4. Terrific flying scenes. Puts all of SR's to shame.

Yep.

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I used to love Supergirl but SGB's love for Supergirl made me hate it.

[HOSNI]

because at no point did Helen answer that one question we all went in with.

G-banger (thong) or commando?

[Shane]

i have tried to watch this movie several times but find myself turning it off after 20-30 mins everytime

[fggafagas]

Aug 26, 2008 9:16:04 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

The problem with the movie (for me) was the script-
There's a ton of story problems that have no logic, and using the villain as camp sealed the deal. (i.e.- why would Kara/the audience care about the girl's school hijinx in the film? Ugh.).

Superman: The Movie used the villain as camp, aswell. If anything, in this movie it made more sense. You have a wannabe witch that happens up on a very powerful device. She wasn't much of a threat before that. Lex is a genius who chooses to hide out in a flooded subway station (or something) with a couple of bozos.

[Legsy]

Aug 26, 2008 23:58:43 GMT -5 @ucfkevin said:

I used to love Supergirl but SGB's love for Supergirl made me hate it.

It's all Guru's fault.

[Pineapples101]

I like the Alan 'Return of the Jedi' Hume cinematography and lighting.... but that's about it.

Also, it's clearly filmed in Britain... CLEARLY! The East Huston town in S II just about get's away with it, but once Supergirl gets to the school I am in no way convinced that it is in America... at all.

Plus the script and plot are laughable. As is the chunky knit sweater wearing Kryptonians.

Salkind minus the influence of someone sane at the helm = laughable film.
Jeannot Szwarc deserves to languish in TV show mediocrity for Supergirl.

[crazy_asian_man]

Superman: The Movie used the villain as camp, aswell. If anything, in this movie it made more sense. You have a wannabe witch that happens up on a very powerful device. She wasn't much of a threat before that. Lex is a genius who chooses to hide out in a flooded subway station (or something) with a couple of bozos.

Donner's version of Luthor I've come to accept, but was never in love from the start with that approach for Luthor from STM. (I tend to speed through the Luthor/Otis parts in viewing the film)

It works great as a counterbalance to what was supposed to be scary (and serious) Phantom Zone Criminals for Superman II, but otherwise, I generally think a campy approach for villains in a serious superhero film is not the strongest way to go.

(This aspect of Singer's SR I wasn't crazy about, either....though he did add some sadism to his version of Luthor)

I do echo most of what people have said here, though:
The music, Slater, the cinematography, and the flying ballet scenes are great.

[albertd]

Supergirl was a good movie, but it didn't have the kind of drama that was in the first hour of STM. Too much light-hearted innocent fun/comedy.. Faye Dunaway was over-acting and she was definitely not the only one. The movie also doesn't have a huge star of Brando 's calibre. Peter o' Toole is a very good actor, but I'd rather see Robert de Niro or the late Charlton Heston.

The movie didn't take itself very seriously and that was a huge mistake. I wish Supergirl had better actors/actresses and a better script.

The flying effects are fantastic and the music is beautiful.

Helen Slater is still a gorgeous woman! She was perfect as Supergirl. And she's also damn intelligent!

[crazy_asian_man]

Hey Albert!
And I agree.....Ms. Slater is still a beauty...what a great choice for Superman's mom in "Smallville"..