Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 7, 2010 12:59:39 GMT -5
Yeah, to me, the time travel sequence in STM is when the writers ran out of ideas. Screw Superman 2, can somebody make me a fancut where we lose turning back the world, but still get that powerful moment with Reeve and Jor-El in the sky? Damn.
I think you can do a fancut where you can keep the powerful moment w/Reeve & Jorel in the clouds, but you'd still have to have time turned back...
I think I mentioned this elsewhere, but in listening to the Salkind/Spengler commentary, Spengler mentioned that the original intention was for the world to be SO trashed at the end of Superman II that - the destruction is so severe, that that's the motivation (rather than Lois' death or her remembering his id) for Superman to turn back time.
To me, suddenly everything clicks into place on the original intents by Donner (so long as you didn't keep the time reversal in STM & saved it). If the world is that trashed in SII (PG-13 style like Independence Day), then...
(1) I could see Superman discovering how bad it is for the first time worldwide- all the implied death and destruction- AFTER he drops off Lois on the balcony,(as he went straight from getting his powers to Metropolis)
Seeing the world's devastation-
This would lead...
(2)To the 'Superman scream' in STM and only after some consideration--- come to the conclusion to do the one forbidden thing....change human history.
(3)Time reversal- to cheers (and not jeers) from the audience.
I agree 1000% with Jimbo & Metallo & all about time reversal- it's just a DUMB DUMB DUMB plot device that has no connection to reality whatsoever.
But.....I have a hunch that Mario Puzo did everything he thought was interesting with the characters in his 500 page script & by the time he introduced it at the end, the probably thought: 'Well, if I take the character this far & it can't go anywhere else from here- then we CAN put in time reversal'.
Hard to argue, given that (imo) they pushed the Lois/Clark Love story to the limit.... it really had no further to go (that's another reason why I forgive SIV for for the Lois/Clark stuff and SR for the child... it's as creative as I think one can get if you embrace SII's stuff as part of backstory).
(*But, I still would have missed the inclusion of Brainiac (still do) & Supergirl as parts of Superman lore that could have been included onscreen.)
