Justice League movie directed by Bryan Singer

[EvilSupes]

I was just going over how great people were saying X-men first class was with Bryan's input and the success he had with the X2 recently. Which got me thinking, that this guy is probably quite capable of doing the same with a Justice League movie.

I think it might be also a great opportunity to bring back Routh, and maybe throw in some of the 'ideas' they had for the sequel to SR, in a JLA movie.

Sounds a bit crazy, but it was just something I was throwing around in my head last night.

[ye5man]

I think it might be also a great opportunity to bring back Routh

Cavill would be in it surely?

[EvilSupes]

Jun 22, 2011 6:59:04 GMT -5 ye5man said:

I think it might be also a great opportunity to bring back Routh

Cavill would be in it surely?

Not if it's set in another universe. I believe there were rumours about that being the case if ever a JLA movie were made, especially since Nolan's Batman would never fit in there. That is why I suggested Routh and the SR universe, as it can work seperately from the MoS.

[ye5man]

Maybe Siegel and Shuster's estate can hire Routh to portray their version of Superman?

It might have a "Never say never again" vibe. No Supey music, no Kryptonite, Jimmy Olsen, etc - just Routh as Superman and a new Lois.

[Valentine Smith]

I pretty much have no interest in Singer ever being anywhere near Superman ever again. He's part of the reason we're where we are right now. I've come to realize he isn't that great of a director and he can't direct action sequences for shit. The action scenes in X-Men 1 are dreadfully staged and even X2's action sequences have kind of a claustrophobic feel to them.

[crazy_asian_man]

I was just going over how great people were saying X-men first class was with Bryan's input and the success he had with the X2 recently. Which got me thinking, that this guy is probably quite capable of doing the same with a Justice League movie.

I think it might be also a great opportunity to bring back Routh, and maybe throw in some of the 'ideas' they had for the sequel to SR, in a JLA movie.

Sounds a bit crazy, but it was just something I was throwing around in my head last night.

Awesome idea.... reminds me of what they often times do, with Marvel comics that get cancelled before a storyline can finish--- they transport the character & story as guest stars of another book... (which may or may not be the perfect solution, but at least you can see what the original creators had in mind for the story).

[Valentine Smith]

Also, he had NO ideas for SR2.

[crazy_asian_man]

I pretty much have no interest in Singer ever being anywhere near Superman ever again. He's part of the reason we're where we are right now. I've come to realize he isn't that great of a director and he can't direct action sequences for shit. The action scenes in X-Men 1 are dreadfully staged and even X2's action sequences have kind of a claustrophobic feel to them.

As an action director, Singer may not be the best- but in terms of character and story, I think he is one of THE best for Superhero films.
But- it would be an easy solution: all Singer would need to do is hire a good action director for the action stuff. (ideally)

Without Singer's SR, we would have had McG or Ratner, right?
Neither one is on the same level of Singer, imo--- looking at "Terminator Salvation" and "X3".... (the action was 'meh' on X3, though, admittedly- some nice bits)

[EvilSupes]

I think he can do it justice, X2 is still one of the best comic book movie sequels out there according to many opinions. I think the idea of having an assembly of heroes and villains like X-Men (which worked well for Singer) might work again for him with JLA. Plus, it gives Brandon another shot at Supes, and Singer at directing a DC movie with Superman.

There was some interesting ideas thrown around for SR2, even if though it is claimed by many the ideas really weren't there. I've always been particularly interested in knowing where the new krypton goes and the possible arrival of Brainiac. They could continue the story of where SR left off, and expand on it making it necessary for the other DC characters to be involved.

[Jack Tripper]

Jun 22, 2011 9:06:16 GMT -5 Valentine Smith said:

I pretty much have no interest in Singer ever being anywhere near Superman ever again. He's part of the reason we're where we are right now. I've come to realize he isn't that great of a director and he can't direct action sequences for shit. The action scenes in X-Men 1 are dreadfully staged and even X2's action sequences have kind of a claustrophobic feel to them.

agreed & agreed.

[ye5man]

Without Singer's SR, we would have had McG or Ratner, right?
Neither one is on the same level of Singer, imo

That's not fair. They might just as easily delivered better than SR. OK it might not have been manufactured sentimentality under the guise of "love letter to STM" or "Vague sequel" as what Singer delivered, but could have been balls to the wall action that drew more people in.

Who the fuck knows? Anyway, let's look on to Cavill and the new movie.

[Knight]

He'd get every character right and totally mess up when it comes Superman. Keep him away.

[EnriqueH]

Despite kicking ass with X-Men 1 and 2, and making one of the best superhero films ever with X2, I'm still leery of Singer working with Superman again.

[crazy_asian_man]

That's not fair. They might just as easily delivered better than SR. OK it might not have been manufactured sentimentality under the guise of "love letter to STM" or "Vague sequel" as what Singer delivered, but could have been balls to the wall action that drew more people in.

"Manufactured sentimentality"? Singer's film seem anything but, but film is always subjective.

Balls to the wall action bores me, if you don't care what's going on, or about the characters in it.

In looking at the larger body of work (not just the superhero films), McG and Ratner have constantly disappointed or underwhelmed..... Singer's body of work is pretty solid.

I'm resigned to the fact that forever, we'll all disagree about SR.....

[ye5man]

Balls to the wall action bores me, if you don't care what's going on, or about the characters in it.

It goes without saying I'd want to care about the characters too. Come on man, do I really need to spell that out?


The only Singer films I've seen are Xmen and Usual Suspects, both left me cold. On the other hand I totally love Ratner/Cage's "Family Man" (not super-hero I know); I was all for Ratner helming a new Supey flick prior to (and after seeing) SR

[crazy_asian_man]

It goes without saying I'd want to care about the characters too. Come on man, do I really need to spell that out?

Well, considering how I feel about McG's and Ratner's lack of skill in creating characters that anyone cares for.... yes, I do need clarification because it seems contradictory (though, yup, of course it's also subjective- )

I don't feel McG nor Ratner have made films were I was able to care about the characters- and/or if I did, it was on a VERY low level (Seen Ratner's "Rush Hour" films 1 & 2, Family Man, X-men 3, Red Dragon).... Also saw McG's "Charlies' Angels & Terminator Salvation* & bits of his awful tv show (whose name I forget).* McG's Terminator hit such FALSE dramatic notes in the film, that it was painful to see the wasted talent on hand under his direction.

I don't follow Singer nor Routh blindly. SR I had high hopes for, but even with high hopes, I didn't feel totally 'safe' with either until about 15 minutes in, when Brandon started to speak with Martha on the farm.

I've admired films that I respected for the effort, but still feel didn't work at all (Watchmen I respect for the effort, but I felt in general was a 'miss' despite good intentions).

If there were other directors who were mentioned who I respected more doing the Superman film, my opinion wouldn't be as strong that Singer was the only choice--- ie James Cameron or Donner or a Nicholas Meyer perhaps--- but Ratner and/or McG? DEFINITELY I would feel that they wouldn't have been able to deliver anything nearly as good as SR.

Anyhow, moot point.
Singer would never come back. WB at this stage wouldn't be dumb to ask either Routh or Singer.

Anyhow, let's move on & hope that Snyder/Nolan delivers.

[ye5man]

Ratner's lack of skill in creating characters that anyone cares for..

Have you seen "Family Man"? I thought Rush hour 1 was OK if you're not expecting much from Jackie Chan; didn't bother with sequels

[EvilSupes]

Looks like I really stirred things up, lol. Sorry that wasn't my intention. But, to avoid further conflict let's just look to MoS for now..

[ye5man]

haha, I'm not worked up or anything, sorry if I came across that way


Here's something to chill us out

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Singer does seem to have genuine affection for geek material (I think he was planning a Logan's Run remake at one point, and he's been involved with multiple Battlestar Galactica projects...dude loves 70s and 80s sci-fi), but his execution is the problem. It's odd that someone who seemingly loves geek stuff would direct 3 films in which signature elements of comic books (bold colors, fantastic costumes, etc.) are either toned down or entirely eliminated.

I think Singer's days as a relevant figure in superhero cinema are over. Sure, the X-Men flicks made comic book movies palatable to a general audience, but they made a TON of compromises along the way. I don't think the guy has it in him to make a cool, no-compromises superhero film. He's too stuck on replicating things he's seen before, with no vision of his own. He's like a vampire, sucking the remaining blood from other people's creations. That's harsher than I intend it to sound, but damn- it's the truth. Dude's been attached to remakes of virtually every 70s era sci-fi property. I won't be shocked if he attaches himself to a Buck Rogers reboot at some point.

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I want him to go back to Usual Suspects type movies.

[crazy_asian_man]

Singer does seem to have genuine affection for geek material (I think he was planning a Logan's Run remake at one point, and he's been involved with multiple Battlestar Galactica projects...dude loves 70s and 80s sci-fi), but his execution is the problem. It's odd that someone who seemingly loves geek stuff would direct 3 films in which signature elements of comic books (bold colors, fantastic costumes, etc.) are either toned down or entirely eliminated.

I think Singer's days as a relevant figure in superhero cinema are over. Sure, the X-Men flicks made comic book movies palatable to a general audience, but they made a TON of compromises along the way. I don't think the guy has it in him to make a cool, no-compromises superhero film.

Could not disagree more. With "Thor", "Green Lantern", and "Iron Man 2"--- we're headed into more disposable junk food territory for superhero films.

I don't mind junk food per se, but it's not even well-made junk food. Singer's take on superhero films are deeper than the average, and tries to elevate it. His storyline & production of "Xmen First Class" I think is good further evidence to that.

[Valentine Smith]

I hate to say it, but I'll take ten Thors and Iron Mans over 2 more hours of navel-gazing.

[Matt in the Hat]

There can be seriousness and depth, but why shouldn't I enjoy myself when watching a superhero movie? I want fun and color to my films. I don't think thats too much to ask for...

[MAVERICK]