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Post by ye5man on Mar 8, 2012 12:10:23 GMT -5
Awesome post Kev, couldn't have put it better myself.
Its like they were afraid of us seeing Superman in a bright palette enjoying himself as it might look too cheesy.
Editing is all over the place. The pacing is off, scenes the wrong way round, the flow is uneven - and did I mention the 3rd act going on forever? There's about a 20 minute gap of no Superman which is not right (I notice Spacey is never out the movie that long)
SR has about 15 mins of excellent footage and beautiful imagery + music, but the rest flat out sucks.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 8, 2012 15:16:42 GMT -5
Aren't you glad that they've changed all that with MOS?  |
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Post by ye5man on Mar 8, 2012 15:49:23 GMT -5
I don't know cos I've not seen the film yet
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Post by matt on Mar 8, 2012 19:15:20 GMT -5
I thought Lex's land scheme should have earth destruction be blamed on Superman because of New Krypton wiping out continents. It would be Superman leaving for five years coming back and a week later then New Krypton wiping out everything.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 9, 2012 4:04:32 GMT -5
But you've seen the BRIGHT COLORS of the new MOS Superman costume in most of these threads here, no? |
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Post by ye5man on Mar 9, 2012 5:33:24 GMT -5
Ever heard of filtering?
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Post by Metallo on Mar 9, 2012 8:23:55 GMT -5
You mean like the washed out or dark look of most Nolan films?
Or the dark filtered look of most Snyder films like Sucker Punch, Watchmen, and 300? The only color that popped in 300 was the red and Dawn of the Dead looked flat as f***.
It'll be a a first if this film has a bright bold superheroic color palette from Snyder. Hopefully there's no stylized backgrounds or slow motion bullsh**--his usual lame assed crutches.
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Post by ye5man on Mar 9, 2012 9:49:10 GMT -5
I haven't seen Sucker Punch, Watchmen, and 300 so no idea what his usual "look" is like
However, WB may have listened to all the SR colour criticisms (and there were plenty) so who knows.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 9, 2012 11:34:44 GMT -5
Watch ONE of them, then come back and tell me you have ANY faith that Snyder will be bringing bright colors (with or without filters).
He might....but it's not a given.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 9, 2012 12:25:03 GMT -5
I haven't seen Sucker Punch, Watchmen, and 300 so no idea what his usual "look" is like However, WB may have listened to all the SR colour criticisms (and there were plenty) so who knows. If WB ever listened to peoples criticisms we wouldn't have gotten a piece of CGI overloaded sh*t like Green Lantern would we. Christ I though they stopped making movies that way with Catwoman. Bigger failure than Superman Returns ;D Snyder is one lazy f*cker visually. If this movie has a shitload of Watchmen style slow motion I'm not even gonna bother. |
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Post by cypher85 on Mar 9, 2012 12:41:21 GMT -5
I haven't seen catwoman, but I am a GL supporter. It's like a snowball effect, some critics have problems, turns into bad word of mouth, and then the collective consciousness seems to think of it as much much worse than it actually is IMO. Yes it has serious flaws. But, I enjoyed it in the theatre, and continue to enjoy it on Blu.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 9, 2012 12:58:28 GMT -5
The film deserves most of the lambasting it gets. At BEST GL is on the same level as Batman Forever...but thats not necessarily a good thing. In the post Iron Man/First Class/X2/Spidey 2/Batman Begins age a movie like Green Lantern looks embarrassingly out of step with the times.
Reynolds was miscast, the girl playing Carol Ferris was a block of wood, and the film has two god awful villains. Its also beyond silly. The only time it really works is the training sequences on Oa.
The idea of feeling sorry for Hal the slacker is ridiculous. He's got a hot love interest, he's good looking, has a new babe sleeping over whenever, a cool car, and the coolest job on earth. I can't feel sorry for this guy at all when they try to play up the idea that he never sees anything through so we should feel bad for his character flaws. The entire thing is utterly hollow and predictable.
The Hal Jordan of the comics has had his demons and his issues but the film adaption missed the mark entirely in typical Hollywood fashion. Two prime examples of the utter script failures in this movie are when Hal gets the ring and its treated as comical and the ending with Sinestro. That made zero sense with what we saw in the movie. Hal was proven right. No need to put on that other ring. The filmmakers didn't do enough to tell the audience who Sinestro REALLY is so that it DID make sense.
CGI for the suit was a big mistake. A lot of the same stuff could have been done practically with CGI enhancements. Martin Campbell's second biggest turd after Legend of Zorro.
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Post by cypher85 on Mar 9, 2012 13:14:32 GMT -5
Well I can't really argue with your points, they are all pretty valid. However, given that I still enjoy the film  . My personal rating would be a B+/B. I would argue with the CGI suit point though. The ring makes constructs. It only makes sense for the suit to be CGI, and I rather like the suit's aesthetic's (when he's not wearing that god awful mask though ) |
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Post by Metallo on Mar 9, 2012 13:23:58 GMT -5
Yes the ring makes constructs but it could have been represented with a practical/cgi enhanced suit. Not full CGI. They could have saved a lot of money that way. The CGI suit didn't even look that good. I look at a CGI constructed energy being like Dr Manhattan in Watchmen and the work there blows away what they did on Green Lantern.
Tron Legacy takes place in a DIGITAL world but the practical suits there looked great. Its silly that Hollywood sees CGI as the quick fix trendy easy way out of ANY fx problem when it should be one tool among many.
The GL mask didn't even look like it was on the same plane as his face. It also looked like it was done in MS paint. WB flushed about 200 million dollars down the toilet when they didn't need to. They could have been far more smart with how they spent money on GL.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 10, 2012 3:50:09 GMT -5
EXACTLY. The screenwriter- Greg Berlianti is the new Akiva Goldsman.  It's little to no suprise that he was the showrunner for "Dawson's Creek".... and from what I've read about his "Cape" tv show, doesn't encourage. I'm more irritated at Geoff Johns for defending that piece of crap, though. It's one thing to have a Hollywood suit who has no familiarity with the material defending the movie- but a whole other thing to have someone who IS familiar with the material giving it a thumbs up to fandom. *sigh* |
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. My personal rating would be a B+/B. 