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Post by Jimbo on Apr 5, 2012 1:08:00 GMT -5
I like Cain's, because his was the most fleshed out. As in, Clark was the focus rather than Superman. (Smallville was too serious). Instead of Superman pretending to be Clark, it was Cain's Clark that pretended to be Superman.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 5, 2012 2:45:57 GMT -5
george reeves and brandon routh's clark is the only ones i'd actually LIKE.
cain had a smugness about him, reeve was (on purpose) not real and nervous. chris reeve did the perfect performance, but not the most likable version.
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Post by ye5man on Apr 5, 2012 3:58:11 GMT -5
What did Routh's Clark actually do?
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Post by Metallo on Apr 5, 2012 7:44:20 GMT -5
george reeves and brandon routh's clark is the only ones i'd actually LIKE. cain had a smugness about him, reeve was (on purpose) not real and nervous. chris reeve did the perfect performance, but not the most likable version. There were too many times the L&C writers screwed up basic elements that Clark Kent/Superman always has. There was an innocent man on death row in one episode and Clark thought he was guilty. They obviously did it to make a it a more Lois centric episode so she could think the guy was innocent. I just couldn't picture Clark Kent/Superman EVER doing that. He always tries to give people a chance. TAS did the same kind of story and got it right. Reeves did some things Cain was trying to do and did them better. He had more charm and charisma in his pinky than Cain had in his whole body. I just compare "Panic in The Sky" to "All Shook Up" and Reeves blows Cain away basically doing the same kind of episode. |
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Post by cypher85 on Apr 5, 2012 9:08:10 GMT -5
This isn't why I voted the way I did, but I would certainly rather sit down and have a beer with Cain's Clark then with Reeve's Clark. He could hold a conversation better, plus if he can pull Teri Hatcher I need him as my wingman.
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Post by ye5man on Apr 5, 2012 9:49:42 GMT -5
Reeves was a trained actor from the Pasadena Playhouse and did many years of stage work (like Reeve), so its hardly surprising he was the superior actor
Cyphers, you have to remember Reeves was set initially as 1950s detective noir while Cain was in a 1990s soft romantic comedy!
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Post by cypher85 on Apr 5, 2012 10:30:49 GMT -5
L&C Clark is the only Clark that I could really see myself being friends with and hanging out with. He seems like a pretty cool guy.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 5, 2012 11:28:22 GMT -5
I'll say this about Cain's Clark. His Clark is every bit as note-perfect faithful to the Clark being portrayed in the comics from 1986-1999 or so as Reeve's Clark was to the Silver/Bronze Age Clark.
Reeves' Clark was way tougher and cooler than the Clark from the comics of the 40s and 50s.
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Post by Metallo on Apr 5, 2012 14:15:50 GMT -5
I think I've always said this: I preferred Chris Reeve's version of Superman easily to Routh's, even though the (intentional) similarities is amazing. On the flip side, I definitely prefer Routh's version of Clark- even though there was (intentional) emulating/integrating some of Reeve's imitation of the character from "Bringing up Baby" film that he brought in.(As he openly admits in interviews). The look and sound of Chris Reeve's Superman was 90% of the job, to be honest.... and I was fine with that, because even though Routh hadn't had as much training as Reeve at the same time, natural qualities he had as a person made up for it, imo. Same thing applied to James Cameron's choice of a kid with next to no acting experience for Terminator 2.... and I thought he was fine in the role. I'll agree that it's not always the smartest idea to cast first on looks, second on experience/acting ability....but considering the odds of finding someone who physically resembling Reeve so much in appearance and voice--- I still think/thought Routh was amazing, add to that enough acting talent to make up for it. Also, he was great in the bit parts in Scott Pilgrim and Chuck.... While someone like Keanu Reeves may have TONS of acting experience at this point, with the small roles/parts Routh has had so far, I believe him as different characters far moreso than I do Reeves, who's been at it for many more years than Routh. (Since we're talking about Reeves's anyways....)  I missed this. Good post. I certainly enjoyed Rouths Superman/Kent (copy or not) more than Reeves' John Constantine, which was different but a wholesale pissing on of the character. Even with more experience Keanu was still "meh" in the role. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2012 19:18:42 GMT -5
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Post by ye5man on Apr 21, 2012 8:43:50 GMT -5
My candidate for worst comic book movie.
At least "Howard T. Duck" has a great WTF factor.
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Post by Metallo on Apr 21, 2012 11:17:37 GMT -5
My candidate for worst comic book movie. At least "Howard T. Duck" has a great WTF factor. How did you feel about WB telling you a British character created by a great British writer wasn't good enough? ;D Their mangling of the character didn't even pay off in the end. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 21, 2012 13:09:01 GMT -5
I liked some of the filmmaking of "Constantine"--- but the casting of Keanu was horrible.... It really should have been Jude Law, as they were thinking in the first place. To have Keanu go onstage at comicon and confess he didn't read any of the comics for research was even more of a slap in the face for his casting. But, some actors just have no respect for comic book material but will take the paycheck anyhow. *sigh*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 5:32:32 GMT -5
What did Routh's Clark actually do? Apart from look wooden? Not an awful lot. A poor Reeve imitation imo. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 23, 2012 14:22:33 GMT -5
It makes sense that Superman would be against the death penalty, of all people. Since he'd be able to kill any living being in a second from a million miles away, he, of all people, would see life as the most fragile - thus, his reasoning for NOT killing Luthor. If he could kill Luthor (or anyone else) any second, there'd be no sense of immediacy for it and give him ample options for redemption via the justice system. (That's been my thinking anyways)
Plus, there's always that phantom zone thing he's got at the FOS.....(Though, why he's never put Luthor there has always been a bit of a mystery)
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Post by Metallo on Apr 23, 2012 18:36:52 GMT -5
My thing with that episode is that Clark Kent/Superman should be a lot more perceptive than that. That show could be so weakly written sometimes.
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Post by EvilSupes on May 1, 2012 15:45:31 GMT -5
I voted for Cain, as he had the right balance. I find Christopher Reeve's CK too dorky and slightly OTT these days. I think he got the balance of Clark good in III though.
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