Man of Steel Poll

[theoj]

What are you most excited about and looking forward to when Man of Steel is released?

Personally, for me, it's a close race between Cavill & Zimmer!

[Deleted]

The Story without question.

the prospect of giving us things we've never seen in a Superman film before

[Valentine Smith]

The story. No question. The prospect of getting a Superman movie that's serious sci-fi, and sets up more of the Superman universe is just too much for me not to not get excited about!

I just hope it's SCI-FI and not "a superhero movie." That's what really sunk Green Lantern.

[cypher85]

The story...none of the other aspects in the poll will work if the narrative is strong.

[crazy_asian_man]

The story is just about everything.... hopefully it can overcome any bad choices Snyder might make.

Recently read an interview with Nolan and company on their approach for Batman--- how they approached the movies as a 'kitchen sink' approach each and every time, and didn't hold anything back for a sequel. (though it's odd/great that the Joker got a whole movie on his own, and wasn't forced into BB)

If they do the same with MOS, it'll be interesting to see if it pays off.
For sure, I wish Singer had given us Brainiac in SR, rather than wait for a sequel that didn't happen....

[starchild]

I think the Visual Effects will be good and the music and the story line 2nd and 3rd respectfully. The casting of Cavill and Adams as Superman and Lane not outstanding.

Cavill is too short to play the Man of Steel. He is 6'1" ... you need at least 6'3 or taller to play the Man of Steel ... a.k.a. Superman.

Adams is too ginger-haired (redness) to play Lois Lane.

The casting in these two characters are marginal at best.

[Jimbo]

I'm not at all enthusiastic about any aspect of this movie. I won't know for sure until about halfway through the movie.

Interesting that "Zack Snyder as director" is not an option. ;D

[cypher85]

He is 6'1" ... you need at least 6'3

you have got to be joking. Are you seriously judging him because he is 2 inches shorter than you would like?

[ye5man]

For sure, I wish Singer had given us Brainiac in SR, rather than wait for a sequel that didn't happen....

Give it a rest will ya!



Anyway, Cavill for me. A good performance can anchor a mediocre film. It'd be more disappointed with a strong story and weak leading actor than vice versa

[Valentine Smith]

Sept 21, 2012 13:05:32 GMT -5 @starchild said:

Cavill is too short to play the Man of Steel. He is 6'1" ... you need at least 6'3 or taller to play the Man of Steel ... a.k.a. Superman.

Adams is too ginger-haired (redness) to play Lois Lane.

The casting in these two characters are marginal at best.

The height thing is ridiculous. Sorry.

And I guess the fact that Noel Neil, a redhead, played Lois Lane for 7 seasons on television in what was probably the most widely viewed incarnation of the character in history should just be ignored.

You can't judge either of them as these characters until you see them in action. If we had at least seen a proper preview with them acting in character, you'd have more of a leg to stand on. But we've not heard one word of dialog spoken by either of them.

I've only seen Cavill in a couple of things, not enough to judge him as an actor, so all I can do is hope he gets the character right. I know more of Amy Adams, and I think she'll do an alright job. For some reason, I get the feeling she's going to have less to do in this movie than either of the previous big screen Loises. She could, however, be on camera with script pages in her hand and STILL do a better job than JarJar Bosworth did...

[Deleted]

What Ye5man said goes for me, too. But story and score are close behind.

[crazy_asian_man]

Give it a rest will ya!

Sure thing.
*takes a nap*
*wakes up*

Now again, about how awful it is that we didn't get Singer's
MOS....

Anyway, Cavill for me. A good performance can anchor a mediocre film. It'd be more disappointed with a strong story and weak leading actor than vice versa

Well, for sure I'm VERY glad that it's not the actor who played Ozymadias (I totally felt he was miscast as Ozy, hard to see how he would have been considered for Supes)....

I agree that if someone has dynamite presence onscreen, it can make a movie far more watchable regardless what's around it.

On the other hand, there were a lot of great actors in Watchmen, but it got buried under a bad script adaptation and directing choices.
(Hate to keep pointing to Snyder as the cause of many worries....)

Being hopeful, hopefully both are great. I'd be curious who's really overseeing the 'final cut' for quality control, though.....

The studio or JUST Zack?
I have a feeling it's going to be ALL him..... but considering how much the studio was rumored to have influence over Green Lantern, I guess it can't be any worse than Green Lantern, no matter what....

[crazy_asian_man]

Also...
As far as the cast goes-

While I think Fishburne and Adams will be fine doing their roles...

I think it's because we've seen Fishburne in tough roles, we've seen Adams in a 'sassy fiery' role, so I don't think they'll be that much of a suprise as to what we'll see...

Kind of 'safe' choices (in spite of the race casting change with Perry), so on the flip side, it's different from when Reeve/Kidder or Routh/Bosworth were cast, where we weren't necessarily sure how they would play the role (regardless of how you felt that they did).

Cavill? I'm curious.

Zimmer? Curious. (For me, far more than if the new Star Trek composer or Tyler Bates had the job)

How Krypton and Zod will look? Very curious. Maybe even moreso than the other elements- suprised this wasn't a choice....

And.... given that Snyder seems to have full WB support, what that 'jawdropping action scene' will look like in the film....

[Metallo]

It rests on Cavill most of all. A good actor can bring a so so story to life. Reeve did that sometimes already with Superman. Iron Man II was mediocre but Downeys charm was just enough to make it worth it. First Class's story wasn't so so but without Fassbender that movie would be half of what it is now. The leads charm goes a long way. a film with a good story with a shitty non charismatic lead can be a death knell. See John Carter.


We know MOS will be covering at least some of the same ground we've seen before. Cavill is the total X factor here. He could make that retreading different.

Sept 21, 2012 13:05:32 GMT -5 @starchild said:

I think the Visual Effects will be good and the music and the story line 2nd and 3rd respectfully. The casting of Cavill and Adams as Superman and Lane not outstanding.

Cavill is too short to play the Man of Steel. He is 6'1" ... you need at least 6'3 or taller to play the Man of Steel ... a.k.a. Superman.

Adams is too ginger-haired (redness) to play Lois Lane.

The casting in these two characters are marginal at best.

George Reeves was 6'1" so...erm...this dog doesn't hunt. Reeves was one of the greatest Supermen of all time. And Cavill is still taller than Cain

Sept 21, 2012 8:22:57 GMT -5 Valentine Smith said:

The story. No question. The prospect of getting a Superman movie that's serious sci-fi, and sets up more of the Superman universe is just too much for me not to not get excited about!

I just hope it's SCI-FI and not "a superhero movie." That's what really sunk Green Lantern.

What sunk Green Lantern was WB making a silly film that didn't take itself seriously enough because apparently they think its still 1995. After Blade/X-men/and Spider-Man they should have woke the fuck up from that dream.

Green Lantern is the new Batman Forever with a turdlet of Fantastic Four squeezed in. And Reynolds is being pushed like the new Affleck to the point that its becoming a bad joke.

[Deleted]

The one thing I'm 99% sure this movie will deliver is spectacle. I'm really looking forward to seeing all those millions of dollars up there on the screen. Ever since the spy shots started leaking of REAL helicopters on set, REAL military vehicles, and street scenes with the wreckage of a major battle all over the place, I've been hyped to see the finished product. They really went all-out with the location shooting and the in-camera stunt work, based on what we've seen in the set pictures.

Other than that, I'm most looking forward to seeing a pretty solid cast in action- and seeing how far the script goes in trying to establish a larger movie world for Supes. Will Lex, Darkseid, or some other villain get hinted at? Can't wait to find out.

[crazy_asian_man]

What sunk Green Lantern was WB making a silly film that didn't take itself seriously enough because apparently they think its still 1995.

I'd say Green Lantern's problem was even worse than that---

It had a main character who had no heroic (Or really likeable) qualities to follow....

It was too scary and dark in spots to appeal to kids-
It was too silly and superficial to be a good drama-
It had maybe seven minutes of interesting Green Lantern superhero/scifi spectacle for the whole film---

And it WAYYYY overestimated how impressed the audiences would be with the motion capture Green Lantern mask/costumes (talk about wasted production money....*sigh*)

Batman and Robin was a classic compared to Green Lantern!

[Valentine Smith]

Sept 24, 2012 1:16:34 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Batman and Robin was a classic compared to Green Lantern!

I don't like to say that someone's opinion is objectively wrong, but in this case, I'll make an exception.

[cypher85]

Seconded

[crazy_asian_man]

I don't like to say that someone's opinion is objectively wrong, but in this case, I'll make an exception.

Ok, fine, Val--- "Green Lantern" is better than "Batman and Robin",
but I think it's like saying one giant piece of excrement doesn't smell quite as bad as another piece.

[cypher85]

I have said it before, and I'll say it again. I think GL gets much more hate than it deserves. And I actually think it's quite crazy to put it with the B&R's of the world. Now I won't argue that it fits in with the FF's of the world.

[Metallo]

At least FF had Evans and Chiklis. Evans superhero movie record is looking a LOT better than Reynolds.

Chris Evans owned as the totally different Johhny Storm and Steve Rogers and the FF movies weren't even that well written. Tim Story certainly wasn't some amazing director. Reynolds seems to be playing the same character in every lameassed comic book movie he does.

Thats exactly what we were talking about when we said a really good actor can take poor material and still entertain while a so so actor with passable material can easily fall flat on his face and the movie is screwed anyway.

Green Lanterns biggest sin is that WB didn't learn sh** from their successes OR their failures when it comes to comic book movies and they had plenty of opportunities to. There really was no excuse for the movie to be so instantly forgettable. It came out sandwiched between Captain America and Thor and both kicked its ass and deservedly so.

And one more thing about the FF comparison. Fox helped killed their franchise with creative decisions like a stupid damn spacecloud and WB's Green Lantern did the same thing. Didn't learn sh**. No excuse. Silver Surfer > Hector Hammond though.

The team behind GL failed at trying to make their own Iron Man knockoff so now the SAME team gets another chance by trying to make Arrow (can't say Green) a Batman Begins clone. Can't wait to see how that goes.

[crazy_asian_man]

Green Lanterns biggest sin is that WB didn't learn sh** from their successes OR their failures when it comes to comic book movies and they had plenty of opportunities to. There really was no excuse for the movie to be so instantly forgettable. It came out sandwiched between Captain America and Thor and both kicked its ass and deservedly so.

I think WB just doesn't get why their characters have had the longevity it's had in the comics, whereas Marvel (or at least it seems Kevin Feige, if he is the one in charge over there) Studios seems to know more times than not, where to draw the limit on changes to the comics to screen.

How many movies get a chance to have the budget that Green Lantern had? And how many times does that happen?

With Batman, at least he had a few successes on the bigscreen that there seems like there was always a good argument to be made for another one.

With Green Lantern, after the debut BIG bomb, I dunno if there'll ever be a reboot in this generation. *sigh*

[Metallo]

Thats a big problem I have with its failure. At least Batman and Superman are proven successes so they will get another chance at some point. Who knows how long it will be before we see another live action GL solo project. Not only that but GL took every other second tier DC character's chances for a film down with it when t failed.

If we're lucky maybe we'll see another GL movie in the next 10-15 years.

All studio films are about money first but GL was truly a corporate/by committee project. WB's fingerprints are all over it. They'll blame the property and not themselves.

[Metallo]

It's hilarious that Michael Shannon didn't get a single vote and he was arguably the most consistently good thing in the film. He more or less delivered. You could empathize a little with Zod.

Sept 21, 2012 3:42:30 GMT -5 @kris said:

the prospect of giving us things we've never seen in a Superman film before

Well that sure didn't turn out to be as true as everyone had hoped.

[atp]

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