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Post by Metallo on Jul 27, 2022 11:40:05 GMT -5
Covid has had an impact on their productions but more on the filming end of things and special effects than the writing. The contracts being shorter is Feige being more friendly to actors compared to the cheapness of Ike Perlmutter. Actors can not feel so trapped and can renegotiate more and potentially make more. Feige is counting on the the actors being more willing to work with marvel and stick around but we are just now seeing those new contracts going into effect. It’s too soon to see how that might help or hurt the creative side of things. Hemsworth is a good example. Love & Thunder is probably the first film under his new deal but it’s just one film in. We need to see how it plays out. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Wanda. I think Feige has more for her. She’s willing and I think he’s also giving Elizabeth Olsen a break to do other things she wants to do and not miss out because of constant MCU commitments. Bosemans death was a real hit to their long term plans but I think it could also create even more interest in Black Panther 2 and give it an extra depth and emotion. I found the trailer to be very powerful because there was some sense of art imitating life with the absence and mourning of King TChalla. I think anyone with any sense knew the Johansson lawsuit would get worked out in her favor very quickly. Chapek had to know that Disney wasn’t going to win and didn’t need that kind of bad press any longer than necessary. He is a problem but Feige still has a lot of power being such money maker. Chapek calls the shots at Disney but he still has a board and stockholders to keep happy and derailing that Marvel gravy train would make them not happy. #1: The stories did have to get rewritten- maybe for the better (hard to say) on both Wandavision and Winter Soldier- but, no way to know, without having accesss to what what was originally put on paper... hopefully it ended being better drafts... #2: I hope you're 100 percent right on Feige being more friendly to the actors on the short-term contracts--- having said that, I do think I would have been much more excited if they had saved Wanda to be the big bad with all the Avengers against her. I really enjoyed Dr. Strange 2- but felt the story was strong enough that it could have sustained building up and expanding. If Feige uses Wanda again, it's hard to envision what you could do further with her character, but I could be wrong... #3: I'm hoping the same that Black Panther 2 - much like the first CRow movie- ends up with creatively an even better story ironically from the real life tragedy of the star's untimely death. #4: I actually felt for awhile (from a distance) that Scarjo was being possibly too greedy if she was being paid $20 million myself- but the way Disney (mis)handled it did make my jaw drop a bit. I do wonder if there will be any more Black Widow movies resulting from this- but considering what a letdown the second half of Black Widow the movie was and the Hawkeye tv show's Yelena/Hawkeye confrontation was (Marvel's version of the Bvs "Why did you say the name Martha???" sadly)..... I don't feel like anything's really lost if they don't have another Black Widow movie, either... #5: Again, I hope you're right on Feige keeping enough power. And- hoping the disappointments I've been feeling on many of the Marvel tv shows and movies start to turn around soon.... 1. Those weren’t major rewrites though. End final stuff for F&TWS did because of Covid restrictions and changing shooting locations. That wouldn’t affect the actual quality of the writing though. 2. The fact that Feige is more open and more public than Perlmutter ever was proves he can interact with talent better. He’s also been able to solve some problems that Perlmutter’s ego driven nature and pettiness couldn’t. The fact that She Hulk is a show and Namor is being used they were able to come to some kind of agreement with Universal. I don’t think the Spider-man deal with Sony would have been as easy to make happen under Perlmutter. Feige has had more big names come to him wanting roles and Feige has been very open to it as well even fan ideas. Perlmutter was far more unmoving in his opinions. 4. Johansson was just going for what she was contractually owed. Disney didn’t even bother to reach out to her and negotiate a new deal for the streaming release and that’s where the issue came up. It was Chapek being bullish and seeing what he could get away with. Everyone should be happy she did what she did and Disney settled because if Disney got away with it they’d see it as a sign they could get away with screwing over others especially those less high profile. We will see more from Black Widow. Money trumps everything in that business and there’s more money to be made there for everyone. Yelena will be the one but I think at some point we will also see Johansson back in the MCU again. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 27, 2022 14:43:42 GMT -5
#1: The stories did have to get rewritten- maybe for the better (hard to say) on both Wandavision and Winter Soldier- but, no way to know, without having accesss to what what was originally put on paper... hopefully it ended being better drafts... #2: I hope you're 100 percent right on Feige being more friendly to the actors on the short-term contracts--- having said that, I do think I would have been much more excited if they had saved Wanda to be the big bad with all the Avengers against her. I really enjoyed Dr. Strange 2- but felt the story was strong enough that it could have sustained building up and expanding. If Feige uses Wanda again, it's hard to envision what you could do further with her character, but I could be wrong... #3: I'm hoping the same that Black Panther 2 - much like the first CRow movie- ends up with creatively an even better story ironically from the real life tragedy of the star's untimely death. #4: I actually felt for awhile (from a distance) that Scarjo was being possibly too greedy if she was being paid $20 million myself- but the way Disney (mis)handled it did make my jaw drop a bit. I do wonder if there will be any more Black Widow movies resulting from this- but considering what a letdown the second half of Black Widow the movie was and the Hawkeye tv show's Yelena/Hawkeye confrontation was (Marvel's version of the Bvs "Why did you say the name Martha???" sadly)..... I don't feel like anything's really lost if they don't have another Black Widow movie, either... #5: Again, I hope you're right on Feige keeping enough power. And- hoping the disappointments I've been feeling on many of the Marvel tv shows and movies start to turn around soon.... 1. Those weren’t major rewrites though. End final stuff for F&TWS did because of Covid restrictions and changing shooting locations. That wouldn’t affect the actual quality of the writing though. 2. The fact that Feige is more open and more public than Perlmutter ever was proves he can interact with talent better. He’s also been able to solve some problems that Perlmutter’s ego driven nature and pettiness couldn’t. The fact that She Hulk is a show and Namor is being used they were able to come to some kind of agreement with Universal. I don’t think the Spider-man deal with Sony would have been as easy to make happen under Perlmutter. Feige has had more big names come to him wanting roles and Feige has been very open to it as well even fan ideas. Perlmutter was far more unmoving in his opinions. 4. Johansson was just going for what she was contractually owed. Disney didn’t even bother to reach out to her and negotiate a new deal for the streaming release and that’s where the issue came up. It was Chapek being bullish and seeing what he could get away with. Everyone should be happy she did what she did and Disney settled because if Disney got away with it they’d see it as a sign they could get away with screwing over others especially those less high profile. We will see more from Black Widow. Money trumps everything in that business and there’s more money to be made there for everyone. Yelena will be the one but I think at some point we will also see Johansson back in the MCU again. I think if I weren't so bummed by how weak the second half of Black Widow was- I'd be more excited for another Black Widow movie. It's starting to feel like a good number of Marvel movies/tv shows aren't having good final acts (Moon Knight, Loki, and Shang-Chi comes to mind as other examples).... |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 27, 2022 15:18:57 GMT -5
1. Those weren’t major rewrites though. End final stuff for F&TWS did because of Covid restrictions and changing shooting locations. That wouldn’t affect the actual quality of the writing though. 2. The fact that Feige is more open and more public than Perlmutter ever was proves he can interact with talent better. He’s also been able to solve some problems that Perlmutter’s ego driven nature and pettiness couldn’t. The fact that She Hulk is a show and Namor is being used they were able to come to some kind of agreement with Universal. I don’t think the Spider-man deal with Sony would have been as easy to make happen under Perlmutter. Feige has had more big names come to him wanting roles and Feige has been very open to it as well even fan ideas. Perlmutter was far more unmoving in his opinions. 4. Johansson was just going for what she was contractually owed. Disney didn’t even bother to reach out to her and negotiate a new deal for the streaming release and that’s where the issue came up. It was Chapek being bullish and seeing what he could get away with. Everyone should be happy she did what she did and Disney settled because if Disney got away with it they’d see it as a sign they could get away with screwing over others especially those less high profile. We will see more from Black Widow. Money trumps everything in that business and there’s more money to be made there for everyone. Yelena will be the one but I think at some point we will also see Johansson back in the MCU again. I think if I weren't so bummed by how weak the second half of Black Widow was- I'd be more excited for another Black Widow movie. It's starting to feel like a good number of Marvel movies/tv shows aren't having good final acts (Moon Knight, Loki, and Shang-Chi comes to mind as other examples).... It’s a solid movie but kind of by the numbers. It was also boxed in a little by us all knowing how things would end. We knew Widow would take down the bad guy. The only characters in any peril were some of the supporting ones. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 27, 2022 15:57:56 GMT -5
I think if I weren't so bummed by how weak the second half of Black Widow was- I'd be more excited for another Black Widow movie. It's starting to feel like a good number of Marvel movies/tv shows aren't having good final acts (Moon Knight, Loki, and Shang-Chi comes to mind as other examples).... It’s a solid movie but kind of by the numbers. It was also boxed in a little by us all knowing how things would end. We knew Widow would take down the bad guy. The only characters in any peril were some of the supporting ones. Whenever a movie sets up things and gets you enthralled, then it's a 'aha-fooled the audience' with this/that plot contrivance, sometimes it's fine, but sometimes it dilutes the material and takes out the emotional weight that the story might have had- I felt it was the latter. I agree that with a prequel movie, you already are kind of boxed in.... but the first half I thought great. The weakening of the Taskmaster character bugged me and the 'saving' of all the supporting characters also bothered me at the end. I generally feel like heroic stories work better if you have to give up SOMETHING valuable to get the win- but, the movie's biggest thing I think was introducing Yelena as the more-awesome Black Widow. |
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