Arrowverse/CW DC news - Amell & more set for Flash season 9

[Metallo]

[crazy_asian_man]

Nov 25, 2018 21:21:25 GMT -5 Metallo said:

the Green Arrow leather jacket outfit tends to look better on most people. Variations of that suit have looked good on men and women of various sizes. That new Flash suit was built specifically for Gustin and the material was chosen to be more comfortable than the leather like suits. Problem is it’s so tight and form fitting that when put on a bigger guy like Amell it just looks odd.

I always thought Hartley was more crusading rich guy golden age Green Arrow. Amell isn’t really based directly on any comic Green Arrow since he’s more stoic but early on he was closer to Longbow Hunters era Green Arrow who was ruthless and more serious. I think what Amell does works within the Arrowverse as the more serious Arrow for lighthearted characters like Flash and Supergirl to play off of. A Hartley Green Arrow wouldn’t really work here. He had the more serious Clark Kent to play off of and was more balanced to that setup.

Much the way they’ve done with Constantine I wouldn’t mind the Arrowverse folding in Hartleys Aquaman and maybe even Palickis Wonder Woman retroactively. I’m not sure it would work because there might be some contradictions but if it did work it could be cool. That would fill some big holes on the Arrowverse. Hartley had much more of the golden matinee idol Aquaman look than the more rugged Oliver Queen look.

I think they should have figured out some kind of modifications for the 'Amell- Flash' costume.... hopefully it looks better on screen, but... ough.... it does look really odd.

I know a lot of folks love Amell as Arrow, but to me it just never felt that good a fit, as how I viewed Arrow physically- my main intro to Arrow was the Neal Adams' Green Lantern/ Green Arrow version, which I think Hartley fit more (to me, anyways) than Amell.

I agree it would be fun to see Hartley as either Aquaman or Arrow and Palicki's Wonder Woman in (if not this miniseries) then a future crossover event.

[Metallo]

Personally I think neither of them fit that Green Arrow at all. Not even visually. They’re both in great shape but I never viewed Ollie as the CW model type. Especially with the van dyke. Hartleys better as a fresher faced golden age green arrow but I don’t think we’ve really seen an ideal take on the O’Neil and Adams version but then I don’t think we’ve seen 90 percent of the DC characters cast perfectly either. Maybe Christopher Reeve, Lynda Carter, and a couple others but that’s it. For example I don’t think we’ve ever seen an ideal casting choice for Barry Allen. Shipp is probably closest but Gustin and Miller look nothing like the tranitional comic book Barry in my mind. The same is true for Alfred or even Joker. There have been some great Performances for those characters but none of the actors really LOOK the part. Alfreds not a clean shaven guy with glasses and a head of full white hair. I can get past things like that when the performances are good. They really only bug me when the actor is terrible in the role.

[crazy_asian_man]

Nov 28, 2018 21:03:13 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Personally I think neither of them fit that Green Arrow at all. Not even visually. They’re both in great shape but I never viewed Ollie as the CW model type. Especially with the van dyke. Hartleys better as a fresher faced golden age green arrow but I don’t think we’ve really seen an ideal take on the O’Neil and Adams version but then I don’t think we’ve seen 90 percent of the DC characters cast perfectly either. Maybe Christopher Reeve, Lynda Carter, and a couple others but that’s it. For example I don’t think we’ve ever seen an ideal casting choice for Barry Allen. Shipp is probably closest but Gustin and Miller look nothing like the tranitional comic book Barry in my mind. The same is true for Alfred or even Joker. There have been some great Performances for those characters but none of the actors really LOOK the part. Alfreds not a clean shaven guy with glasses and a head of full white hair. I can get past things like that when the performances are good. They really only bug me when the actor is terrible in the role.

I think for superhero (Or villain) characters, for me to say that they're great in a role, I feel like physically they have to (in my mind) meet me halfway physically.

Mon-el on Supergirl and Cosmic Boy on Smallville I thought both seemed a bit thin for their characters, but they looked enough like the character- but the confidence and the performances drove the rest home for me to say I'm totally fine with them.

[Metallo]

I can deal with it if they kind of look the part and they’re made to look it with hair makeup and a good costume. I think that’s how most superhero actors get there. Reb Brown is physically the actor closest to captain America but I doubt most people would say he’s better than Chris Evans. Cavill looks the part of Superman but he’s got all the charisma of a year old rice cake.

Hawkman on smallville missed every mark. I’m a fan of the actor but between the costume and him being built like an average dude I thought he just looked ridiculous.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 1, 2018 13:22:15 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I can deal with it if they kind of look the part and they’re made to look it with hair makeup and a good costume. I think that’s how most superhero actors get there. Reb Brown is physically the actor closest to captain America but I doubt most people would say he’s better than Chris Evans. Cavill looks the part of Superman but he’s got all the charisma of a year old rice cake.

Hawkman on smallville missed every mark. I’m a fan of the actor but between the costume and him lbeing built like an average dude I thought he just looked ridiculous.

I think interpretation and what's a natural part of the actor also contributes to what I feel is 'acceptable' casting (wow, I sound so arrogant!) --- As an example, more recently, I listened to an interview with the actress who plays Colleen Wing in "Iron Fist", but in watchingthe second season--- she just seems this inclination to smile too much at moments over the whole season where the story doesn't really seem like it calls for it- and that doesn't seem to fit my interpretation

Maybe as a better example, even though I was never a giant Michael Keaton as Batman fan- there is a sense of darkness and edge that Keaton seemed to have naturally. (though I know I could be wrong of course, I only know what's shared in the media and in interviews)- That made it much easier to go with him.... moreso than Affleck, who seems (to me) someone that seems more polite and not-edge filled.

Cavill I feel was kind of doomed and constrained by a script that made his version of Superman gloomy and reserved in the first two films.

I do think it's hilarious that Dean Cain came out and said directly that in MOS - Clark would have saved his dad during the evil tornado, regardless of exposing his identity to the world- and Cavill's having to adhere to that I don't think helped his case.

With Legends of Tomorrow- there's a LOT of casting on that show I find kind of flat, personally.... but I haven't seen enough of that show at this point I think to give that show a fair enough shot. (I have friends who rave that second season on, it gets its groove on).

[Metallo]

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Bitsie Tulloch Talks Bringing a 'Determined' Lois Lane to the CW's 'Elseworlds' Crossover (Exclusive)

By Meredith B. Kile‍ 11:28 AM PST, December 7, 2018

The CW's Elseworlds crossover event is bringing even more beloved DC Comics characters to the network's Arrow 'verse -- among them, one of the most recognizable female characters in comics history: Superman's longtime love interest, Lois Lane.

Grimm alum Bitsie Tulloch is stepping into the iconic role previously embodied by Margot Kidder, Teri Hatcher, Amy Adams and more,for the three-episode arc -- which starts on Sunday with a special episode of The Flash -- and opened up to ET about what it means to embody the intrepid reporter.

"I'm really excited. It's been a really positive experience for me from the second my casting was announced," the actress raved. "The fans seemed pretty enthusiastic about it and made me feel really welcome. And I was really honored, more than anything, to be playing such an iconic character and to be among a group of really great actresses who have also played Lois Lane."

Tyler Hoechlin returns as Clark Kent and his super-powered alter ego in this year's crossover, and Tulloch couldn't speak highly enough about working alongside the Teen Wolf star as part of the DC canon's premiere power couple. "We had great chemistry. He's such a doll," she marveled. "I really loved working with him and the rest of the cast."

"I can't say enough good things about Melissa Benoist and Stephen Amell and Grant Gustin," she added of the Supergirl, Arrow and Flash leads, who star in all three episodes of the crossover event. "Everyone was just delightful and really good at their job and fun and friendly... It's a lot of work, and so I was impressed by how they were still maintaining excitement about everything."

The role of Lois Lane, it turns out, is a bit of a full-circle moment for Tulloch, who shared a lengthy "fangirl" post on Instagram after being cast revealing that, early in her career, an acting teacher instructed her to watch Kidder's audition tapes for the original Superman films.

"My whole life, I've been told, 'You look like Margot Kidder, the Lois Lane from Superman,'" she recalled. "So I always sort of had her in the back of my head as, like, 'Oh, that's someone people think I sort of look like.' And then when I did start acting, I had an acting teacher tell me to watch the screen test for the Lois Lane role for Christopher Reeves' Superman series."

"There were really wonderful, accomplished, famous actors who were screen testing... But I remember totally getting why she got it," she noted. "It just made sense to me. Her performance was so different. There was a lot of gravity for everyone else. She had that too, but she also just had this really fun energy and you could tell she was having fun with the role."

Tulloch admitted that, apart from Kidder, she hasn't studied other portrayals of Lois, wanting to "bring my own thing to the world." But she said she tried to infuse the lighthearted side of the character in her own audition, where she and Hoechlin actually read a cut scene from one of the original Superman films.

"I did it once and [then said], 'I would like to do it where I'm kind of just having a little more fun with Clark, like, messing with him a little.' She totally messes with him... Clark can be so awkward," she laughed. "Then they were like, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah, do that.' That was sort of my takeaway going into this process, was to just have fun with it."

"Yeah, it's dramatic, there's a lot of dramatic things going on. There is a lot of action and danger, but she's still always wanting in on the adventure. And that's really the heart and soul of who she is."

That adventurous spirit fits right in with the CW's Arrow 'verse, which often showcases the heroics of the shows' supporting characters -- not just the ones in the super suits. "Without giving anything away," Tulloch teased of her role, "she definitely does have a moment where her involvement is pivotal in a particular fight scene."

"One of the reasons I love the character is that she has qualities of being so career-driven and determined and sassy and almost a little bit aggressive when she's on a mission, but also really romantic and sweet and so in love with Clark," she added. "All of that came through in the writing. These are big episodes... [but] it was definitely enough to get the point across to the fans that this is her personality and this is what she represents and adds to the equation."

As for a possible return -- likely after she and husband David Giuntoli welcome their first child -- Tulloch said she's always down for more heroics as the Man of Steel's main girl.

"I hope so. I was talking to a couple of people about it," she said. "I really just had so much fun shooting it. I had fun, honestly, even with just the responsibility of playing such an iconic character. I'd be thrilled if I got to do more episodes."

The Elseworlds crossover event begins with The Flash on Sunday, Dec. 9, at 8 p.m. ET/PT, continues with Arrow on Monday, Dec. 10, at 8 p.m. ET/PT and concludes with Supergirl on Tuesday, Dec. 11, at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW.

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Interview: Bitsie Tulloch Fills Us in on Her Lois Lane in the Arrowverse Crossover “Elseworlds”

by Jessica Mason | 11:58 am, December 7th, 2018

While hopping through different Earths and trying to save reality, Green Arrow, Supergirl, and the Flash aren’t just going to meet Superman and Batwoman; they’ll also get some help from another DC comics icon: Lois Lane. Kara (Melissa Benoist) will bring Oliver (Stephen Amell) and Barry (Grant Gustin) to the safety of the Kent farm in the second hour of the Arrowverse “Elseworlds” crossover event, where they’ll meet up with the Man of Steel and his girl Friday, played by Elizabeth Tulloch (Bitsie to her fans and friends).

Tulloch took some time to chat with The Mary Sue about what it was like stepping into this iconic part and the adventure that was the filming of “Elseworlds.”

“More than anything, I just feel honored,” Tulloch said of playing Lois. “I definitely felt … a certain responsibility to the fans, because it’s such an iconic character and it has been for 80 years.” Lois Lane isn’t just the model for superhero better halves; she’s an amazing character on her own, and Tulloch loved that she always has been.

“She just was so different,” Tulloch said of Lois in her 1938 debut alongside Superman. “Back in the ’30s and ’40s, a lot of the portrayals of women … leaned toward Susie Homemakers at home, who kind of were a little demure and deferred to the man all the time, and then you have Lois, who is this determined journalist, newspaper reporter, who will do just about anything to get a story, if she feels like it’s important.”

Lois was driven and dogged from the get-go, and Tulloch noted, “I think that’s part of the reason she’s been so popular,” but Lois is “also feminine and loving … and adventurous and, dare I say, aggressive.” To play such a complex character was a thrill for Tulloch, “because it’s a character I myself love.”

Tulloch isn’t the first woman to play Lois, and she’s aware of many of the other performances, but she didn’t actively look to them for inspiration or research in her portrayal. However, there is one actress, who has inspired Tulloch from the beginning of her career, whose influence made it in: “The one I was most aware of, and I’m sure it did influence me subconsciously, was the Margot Kidder version.”

As Tulloch shared with fans when she got the role, Kidder inspired her from the start of her career. “I didn’t start acting until I was in my mid 20s,” Tulloch said. “I remember I had an acting teacher tell me to watch the screen test for the Lois Lane role for the original superman trilogy.” Watching those tests, “It was obvious to me why Margot Kidder booked it. She was having so much fun with it … and there was a joie de vivre in every one of her choices. Not only did she have moments of gravity and furiousness and fear … you could just tell she’s having fun.”

Kidder embodied what Tulloch loves about Lois. “Lois is kind of sassy, she can be a little abrasive,” she said. “She likes giving Clark a hard time, because Clark can be a little socially awkward and shy, and those are all things I can relate to on a personal level myself.” Tulluch jokes that her own husband (former Grimm costar David Giuntoli) tells her she can be a bit too blunt, a la Lois, and she also shares Lois’s affection for her onscreen love, portrayed by Tyler Hoechlin.

“He’s delightful,” Tulloch said of Hoechlin, with whom she immediately clicked. “That’s always a little scary,” Tulloch said of the first meeting. “Their relationship, it so hinges on having good chemistry, and that’s not something you can easily fake. You either have it with an actor or you don’t, so I was really happy that he and I, from the first scene, really got each other.”

She added, “Romantically, we had really good chemistry, as well … he’s so charming and handsome, it was easy for me. He made my job really easy.”

Tulloch also enjoyed working with the other member of the Super-family: Melissa Benoist. “I adore her,” she gushed. She was extra impressed to learn about Benoist’s run on Broadway last summer, as well as her talents as Kara Danvers. “I was really impressed both with her energy on set, which was really positive, and she’s very bright.”

That admiration extended to the other heroes Tulloch worked with: “I was on a show that was shooting averaging at least 14 hours a day for six years, and it gets tiring. I wasn’t the series lead on Grimm; my husband was, but I saw how exhausted he would get … I was just really impressed by all three of the series leads.” Especially when shooting a three-show crossover that sometimes required actors to be shooting an episode of Arrow in the morning and Supergirl in the evening, “everyone just had really great attitudes and great energy … That is difficult to sustain.”

Lois herself has been mentioned by Kara and Clark many times on Supergirl, but we don’t know a lot about what Kara’s relationship is with her fellow journalist. According to Tulloch, “There’s a little bit of journalism talk, but mostly it’s really like family. I went into it thinking, ‘I’m going to treat her as though she’s my cousin,’ cause that’s how Clark treats her.”

Thinking of Kara that way helped get into the right mindset, but so did the set itself, where Tulloch and the cast filmed for their first days. Eagle-eyed fans pointed out, the moment pictures were posted, that the Kentof “Elseworlds” is the same Kent farm used for years in Smallville. “My first scenes I filmed were on Kent farm, so it just felt so Superman-y, for lack of a better way to describe it. It felt like getting dropped into the world right from the beginning.”

It’s a big world, though, with several hundred episodes of television in the back catalogue. Thankfully, Tulloch had some help in getting familiar with things: her good friend Danielle Panabaker (Caitlin Snow). Panabaker helped introduce Tulloch to the world, the right episodes to get the tone of the shows, and gave her “a crash course” on the Arrowverse. Sadly, Tulloch and Panabaker didn’t actually get to work with each other, at least in these episodes.

Tulloch may be new to the DCTV universe, but she’s certainly not new to genre television after six years on Grimm. “The best fans to have as an actor are genre fans,” Tulloch said. “They’re very smart, they’re very loyal, and they really watch the shows.” She’s excited for her Grimm fans to take a look at the Arrowverse, and it sounds like many of them are as excited to watch as Tulloch was to play the part.

Over all, she’s “happy with how they wrote Lois; she’s a tough cookie and she’s fun,” and it will be fun to watch what happens.

The Elseworlds crossover event begins Sunday, December 9 at 8:00PM on The CW. Tulloch debuts as Lois Lane on Arrow on Monday, December 10th.

[crazy_asian_man]

That was cool to read, thanks. It echoes again what Helen Slater said about the REALLY long hours that we never really think about to be a star of a tv show.

I think I'd heard that Steve Amell was responsible for helping the "Heroes and Villains" convention get actors from the Berliantiverse--- which helps put dollars in actors' pockets and helps fans who really want to see the actors-
If he was- then it seems like he has a solid head for balancing business and stardom while it lasts & getting other stars to be aware of the $ as well for when this or that show inevitably ends by participating in these events.

A few years back at Stocktoncon, Michael Dorn had some great stories about how he learned early on in Hollywood about how to save $ because of the fast up and down of Hollywood, and how some actors he had worked with, had either always been confident on
being asked to come back the following year on a tv show- and how some had burned out their money quickly- only to never have another hit. So, that sunk in a bit, even if it would seem to be 'common sense' for young actors who chase their dreams to Hollywood.... but, then again- we're STILL reading stories of stars who made $20 million or so per picture during their heyday and have reports of them teetering on bankruptcy.

So, anyhow- I guess I look at the Heroes convention now as perhaps actors being more realistic about planning for their financial futures AND meeting fans at the same time. (Before I had a slightly darker and dim view of actors that charged money for pics or autographs, but I think that's before I started to gain more and more stories about the real 'behind the scenes' in Hollywood...)

[Metallo]

I’ve got no problem with actors charging at signings or for autographs or photos. As long as they’re nice about it and not d!cks while charging you an obscene amount. I’ve heard Ferrigno can be and while getting paid still can’t bother with fans. But otherwise I think these things are great for actors to make some more money. It’s not the most stable profession and it’s not like most of them automatically have access to a company retirement plan or 401k through their job. They basically have to plan for their own retirement independently. Not only that but the work they do get is usually shakey at best.

I think that’s why you see these younger actors not letting their egos get in the way. They’ve figured out the one for them one for me system. Benoist and Gustin seem fine sticking with their shows for a decade if they last that long while doing outside projects too. Look at Margot Robbie. She’s got a ton of offers coming her way just she’s also smart enough to invest in the Harley Quinn business heavily. The shows and movies give them financial stability and exposure while they explore other opportunities. In the past you had actors doing these things who openly complained after a few years and were ready to move on after a short amount of time. Of course type casting was a different issue back then too but still. It just seems like today’s actors get that they should gonna make as much as they can while they can and not risk leaving a paying gig. Even most of the mcu actors don’t mind sticking it out for the long haul. I’d tell all of them get that money while you can. Just be professional about it.

Amell seems like a pretty smart guy and a leader. I know he’s got his own outside ventures away from acting and he’s always seemed to take the lead with anything Arrowverse related. It’s one reason I respect him. He doesn’t just sit back and do what he’s told he’s gotten the clout and now he’s using it to be more proactive.

Yeah the hours for tv are tough especially if you’re the lead. I know Welling has said that smallville was grueling. I think that’s why we saw guys like Kevin Sorbo literally break down physically doing Hercules. It’s why Adrian Paul stepped away from Highlander at six seasons. I know he got cut nearly to the bone a couple of times doing the sword work. That’s when I can understand walking away. When your exhausted don’t get the time for family and have been banged up and hurt doing all the physical stuff.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 8, 2018 12:28:32 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I’ve got no problem with actors charging at signings or for autographs or photos. As long as they’re nice about it and not d!cks while charging you an obscene amount. I’ve heard Ferrigno can be and while getting paid still can’t bother with fans. But otherwise I think these things are great for actors to make some more money. It’s not the most stable profession and it’s not like most of them automatically have access to a company retirement plan or 401k through their job. They basically have to plan for their own retirement independently. Not only that but the work they do get is usually shakey at best.

I think that’s why you see these younger actors not letting their egos get in the way. They’ve figured out the one for them one for me system. Benoist and Gustin seem fine sticking with their shows for a decade if they last that long while doing outside projects too. Look at Margot Robbie. She’s got a ton of offers coming her way just she’s also smart enough to invest in the Harley Quinn business heavily. The shows and movies give them financial stability and exposure while they explore other opportunities. In the past you had actors doing these things who openly complained after a few years and were ready to move on after a short amount of time. Of course type casting was a different issue back then too but still. It just seems like today’s actors get that they should gonna make as much as they can while they can and not risk leaving a paying gig. Even most of the mcu actors don’t mind sticking it out for the long haul. I’d tell all of them get that money while you can. Just be professional about it.

Amell seems like a pretty smart guy and a leader. I know he’s got his own outside ventures away from acting and he’s always seemed to take the lead with anything Arrowverse related. It’s one reason I respect him. He doesn’t just sit back and do what he’s told he’s gotten the clout and now he’s using it to be more proactive.

Yeah the hours for tv are tough especially if you’re the lead. I know Welling has said that smallville was grueling. I think that’s why we saw guys like Kevin Sorbo literally break down physically doing Hercules. It’s why Adrian Paul stepped away from Highlander at six seasons. I know he got cut nearly to the bone a couple of times doing the sword work. That’s when I can understand walking away. When your exhausted don’t get the time for family and have been banged up and hurt doing all the physical stuff.

I do wonder if young actors pay attention to history of the tv/ movie actors (for example, David Caruso's burning bridges on tv to do movies that failed - then failed when he got back to tv again)- or - simply get better advice and guidance from agents and acting teachers (or even youtube classes) along the way to see the importance of preparing early.... and/or even seeing older actors at conventions and the fandom it inspires even after his/ her show got cancelled.

It's funny to think that back in the day, Star Trek was the pioneer for comic conventions and getting actors from cancelled shows to be part of them... and how it eventually (with different factors) morphed into Comic con and became an actual relationship between stars, fans, and the Hollywood studio.

[Metallo]

I think a lot of them probably learned from experience and from watching their predecessors. Who wants to be an actor that made good money only to end up broke and with no way to take care of themselves when their old? Or to be swindled out of money by financial advisors? Or watch studios and production companies get rich while they get peanuts? It’s why so many actors form their own production companies and own pieces of the shows or movies. When you look at the actors that first did that like Lucille Ball, Jack Webb, etc. they could kick back and let the money roll in based on syndication sales alone. I think most actors want that. I’d gladly risk typecasting because that way your making money long term long after your career is over.

Don’t shun your fanbase. Cultivate it. They’ll follow you and support you on the next project. It’s why so many use social media. Just keep it within reason because some fans can be overzealous.

Your right they also saw stars who burned their bridges either being a holes or thinking they were bigger than they were only to be brought back down to earth. I think the actors should only threaten to walk when there is a real injustice like the Asian actors on Hawaii Five O did. Meanwhile I look at the George Eads thing on McGuyver and I just scratch my head. He already did this once on CSI now he’s doing it again? I guess he just wants to leave but he should consider what it could do to his career. I know Denise Crosby has said she regretted leaving TNG.

[Metallo]

Surprised they built so much of it. I figured it would be a green screen set. Wonder if they reused anything from the previous fortress sets they had on Supergirl? I really enjoyed the various nods to Superman II and III in this scene.

[Metallo]

I love Legends. Only it could get away with something so nuts at this point. I even got most of what they were parodying with these faux intros. The whole episode was nuts but it’s one time this season they really found the right mix between comedy and drama. Some of the other episodes felt off to me.

[Metallo]

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“Arrow” To End Next Season With Shorter Run

By Garth Franklin Wednesday, March 6th 2019 3:24 pm

The CW’s longest-running on air DC Comics series, “Arrow,” will end with its upcoming eighth season. That season, which begins this Fall, will also be half the regular size – clocking in at just ten episodes.

“Arrow” launched on The CW in 2012 and remains one of the network’s highest-rated shows, also kicking off an inter-connected universe of other DC shows with “The Flash,” “Supergirl” and “Legends of Tomorrow”.

A “Batwoman” pilot has been ordered starring Ruby Rose with that series likely to be picked up for next season and effectively replacing “Arrow” as the most serious dark drama series of the four shows.

Executive producers Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim and Beth Schwartz said in a statement:

“This was a difficult decision to come to, but like every hard decision we’ve made for the past seven years, it was with the best interests of ‘Arrow’ in mind. We’re heartened by the fact that ‘Arrow’ has birthed an entire universe of shows that will continue on for many years to come. We’re excited about crafting a conclusion that honors the show, its characters and its legacy and are grateful to all the writers, producers, actors, and — more importantly — the incredible crew that has sustained us and the show for over seven years.”

Series star Stephen Amell also posted a message on Twitter: “Playing Oliver Queen has been the greatest professional experience of my life… but you can’t be a vigilante forever…There’s so much to say… for now I just want to say thank you.”

Source: The Live Feed

I knew it. I figured with them doing Crisis some of these shows were going to end. It was obvious they’ll kill Oliver off in the story with the deal Oliver made. Arrows ratings have been slipping and I think they knew it was now or never to do Crisis because they won’t be able to do it at this scale again if they have fewer shows and characters. Amells got to be tired of the grind and being away from his family. I’m sure he wants to try other things at this point. Guess Batwoman will replace it mid season. Was wondering how it would fit on the schedule and this answers that question.

[crazy_asian_man]

Mar 6, 2019 18:55:01 GMT -5 Metallo said:

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“Arrow” To End Next Season With Shorter Run

By Garth Franklin Wednesday, March 6th 2019 3:24 pm

The CW’s longest-running on air DC Comics series, “Arrow,” will end with its upcoming eighth season. That season, which begins this Fall, will also be half the regular size – clocking in at just ten episodes.

“Arrow” launched on The CW in 2012 and remains one of the network’s highest-rated shows, also kicking off an inter-connected universe of other DC shows with “The Flash,” “Supergirl” and “Legends of Tomorrow”.

A “Batwoman” pilot has been ordered starring Ruby Rose with that series likely to be picked up for next season and effectively replacing “Arrow” as the most serious dark drama series of the four shows.

Executive producers Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim and Beth Schwartz said in a statement:

“This was a difficult decision to come to, but like every hard decision we’ve made for the past seven years, it was with the best interests of ‘Arrow’ in mind. We’re heartened by the fact that ‘Arrow’ has birthed an entire universe of shows that will continue on for many years to come. We’re excited about crafting a conclusion that honors the show, its characters and its legacy and are grateful to all the writers, producers, actors, and — more importantly — the incredible crew that has sustained us and the show for over seven years.”

Series star Stephen Amell also posted a message on Twitter: “Playing Oliver Queen has been the greatest professional experience of my life… but you can’t be a vigilante forever…There’s so much to say… for now I just want to say thank you.”

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I knew it. I figured with them doing Crisis some of these shows were going to end. It was obvious they’ll kill Oliver off in the story with the deal Oliver made. Arrows ratings have been slipping and I think they knew it was now or never to do Crisis because they won’t be able to do it at this scale again if they have fewer shows and characters. Amells got to be tired of the grind and being away from his family. I’m sure he wants to try other things at this point. Guess Batwoman will replace it mid season. Was wondering how it would fit on the schedule and this answers that question.

It's a pity that for so long the tv show didn't have so much filler... I know that a lot of shows do, but I just never was that riveted by the Arrow series. Daredevil season 1, Gifted (both seasons), and Agents of Shield (after season 2) have been the most engaging. It probably doesn't help that I never quite warmed to Amell versus Hartley in the role.... but I know a ton of fans love Amell and the show.

[crazy_asian_man]

Surprised they built so much of it. I figured it would be a green screen set. Wonder if they reused anything from the previous fortress sets they had on Supergirl? I really enjoyed the various nods to Superman II and III in this scene.

They probably could have saved a ton of money renting the old pieces of the Smallville Fortress of Solitude, but most likely those were used as firewood somewhere....

[Metallo]

Like you said I imagine a lot of that set was destroyed. Would have been nice if they’d packed it up for storage but they had no idea where it could have been used next and storage space costs money. They did store a lot of the Smallville costumes since they don’t take up as much space. The Green Arrow costume showed up in the Elseworlds crossover.

Bits and pieces of the smallvilke fos set may still exist somewhere. A lot of the time people involved with the shows keep them or they get recycled for other shows.

[crazy_asian_man]

Mar 19, 2019 16:25:56 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Like you said I imagine a lot of that set was destroyed. Would have been nice if they’d packed it up for storage but they had no idea where it could have been used next and storage space costs money. They did store a lot of the Smallville costumes since they don’t take up as much space. The Green Arrow costume showed up in the Elseworlds crossover.

Bits and pieces of the smallvilke fos set may still exist somewhere. A lot of the time people involved with the shows keep them or they get recycled for other shows.

Some of the more famous shows were smart to have an auction announced to fans for many of the items when they approached cancellation. I wonder if that's still going on...

[Metallo]

I think most of the stuff that isn’t in storage or wasn’t taken by someone then is destroyed. A lot of stuff that could be repurposed for other CW shows probably was. That’s what Star Trek did for years with old sets and props. Once there were no more shows being produced then they auctioned most of it off.

[Metallo]

They have to know how cool it would be to put Routh in the Arrowverse Superman costume.

[crazy_asian_man]

Mar 25, 2019 16:56:12 GMT -5 Metallo said:

They have to know how cool it would be to put Routh in the Arrowverse Superman costume.

I wonder if it's more Routh.... in interviews he's said from his convention visits, how he recognizes how many people LOVED SR- so he might be so respectful of it now, I do wonder if he would feel putting it on would detract too much from the movie and people's memories of it.... but to me, it would be like seeing Nathan Fillion putting on the Serenity costume (which he did) for his other tv show "Castle"--- just a ton of 'cool' for the fans.

[Metallo]

He could still end up wearing it in this episode. If I were them I’d keep it as a surprise. He’d probably be down for it as a quick gag but I’m not even sure he’d fit in Hoechlins suit without some alterations and I’m not sure they’d put the time and money in to do that.

When they had Rouths suit for Smaville I’m not sure Welling could fit in that one so they would have had to put together a new suit. Then again they made a new suit for Shipp and Amell and Gustin switched suits but that was for more substantial screen time so it could have been justified for budgetary reasons. I guarentee we will see Shipp in that suit again so they’ll try to get even more out of the investment.

[crazy_asian_man]

Mar 26, 2019 15:52:41 GMT -5 Metallo said:

He could still end up wearing it in this episode. If I were them I’d keep it as a surprise. He’d probably be down for it as a quick gag but I’m not even sure he’d fit in Hoechlins suit without some alterations and I’m not sure they’d put the time and money in to do that.

When they had Rouths suit for Smaville I’m not sure Welling could fit in that one so they would have had to put together a new suit. Then again they made a new suit for Shipp and Amell and Gustin switched suits but that was for more substantial screen time so it could have been justified for budgetary reasons. I guarentee we will see Shipp in that suit again so they’ll try to get even more out of the investment.

That would be VERY cool if Routh were in that suit even for a little bit.... but I think that they wouldn't be shy about trying to pump that up and use it to help promote things.... so, I'm not counting on it.... even as I would love it.

[Metallo]

[Metallo]

Not bad. They really spent some money on it by CW standards. Like their take on the batcave