DC Films news: new Robin film “Dynamic Duo” announced

[Metallo]

Jun 21, 2018 18:46:20 GMT -5 @roffellamo said:

Jun 21, 2018 18:24:38 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I don’t care if it’s minor but when it’s glaring it’s absurd imo. That’s where dc is getting. If your going to change things that much why not do a hard reboot?

Hey, you're not going to get an answer out of me, Warner Brothers doesn't exactly have a great track record with their superhero films or caring about continuity. 

They did what they did with JL in a desperate attempt to salvage something. They’re doing it with the Wonder Woman films because they know they screwed up with BvS and are trying something better. What Jenkins wants to do is far more true to the character and it’s one reason WW succeeded. WW was a hit so they won’t reboot so they’re stuck trying to retcon away the stuff that didn’t work.

It’s like Snyder’s recent claim that the real doomsday is still out there and that the one in BvS wasn’t it. That’s bull. For all intents and purposes that was their version of doomsday. He filled that role. They aren’t going to have the real Doomsday show up kill Superman and go through the whole funeral and everything all over again. That birds flown the coop. He sounds like he’s just trying to backtrack.

[Metallo]

Jun 22, 2018 20:19:43 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Jun 22, 2018 11:42:39 GMT -5 Metallo said:

The X-men films never kept continuity straight though. The big issues started with FC but it was happening from the start. Hank McCoy was human looking in his x2 cameo but he’s full on blue fur in the last stand. X-men origins retconned elements of wolverines origin from X-men and X2. The timeline Xavier laid out in the first movie doesn’t match origins at all. I could forgive most of that but the movie was crap. I can’t blame first class for doing what all The X-men movies did. Singer just never cared about keeping it straight. No one at fox did. These movies were never designed to be part of a shared universe they were always more director driven so I gave up a long time ago.

Can't really argue with those, but- I think the thing is with the X-men in particular, with so much material, I think it really needed a focused approach if they were going to make a proper franchise out of it. A little more care I think would have expanded its box office even more...

If they’d tried to work together they really could have made a great X-men universe. Either do that or make the films stand alone and stick to it. Logan was a great film but mangold tries to claim it’s not part of the cannon. Seems ridiculous at this point.

Remember the talk about fantfourstic being in continuity with the X-men films. We literally got three different answers from Singer, Kinberg, and Millar. It was hilarious. Where do legion and the gifted fit? Wildly different answers. No one at fox even tries to get on the same page. I don’t care what they do as long as they talk straight about what they’re doing.

[crazy_asian_man]

Jun 22, 2018 20:37:49 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Jun 22, 2018 20:19:43 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Can't really argue with those, but- I think the thing is with the X-men in particular, with so much material, I think it really needed a focused approach if they were going to make a proper franchise out of it. A little more care I think would have expanded its box office even more...

If they’d tried to work together they really could have made a great X-men universe. Either do that or make the films stand alone and stick to it. Logan was a great film but mangold tries to claim it’s not part of the cannon. Seems ridiculous at this point.

Remember the talk about fantfourstic being in continuity with the X-men films. We literally got three different answers from Singer, Kinberg, and Millar. It was hilarious. Where do legion and the gifted fit? Wildly different answers. No one at fox even tries to get on the same page. I don’t care what they do as long as they talk straight about what they’re doing.

It could well be that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. I remember Marina Sirtis' saying that in season one of TNG, she would ask the different writers what the relationship was between Riker and Troi, and get completely different answers.

[Metallo]

Yeah. I mean...THATS the problem. That’s exactly what happened with Caliban between X-men Apocalypse and Logan. That shouldn’t be an issue because they should have someone like a Executive or producer checking on all these films to at least try to keep things smooth. The same people are putting their names on most of these movies but that kind of coordination doesn’t seem to be happening even though that should be part of their job.

[Metallo]

Kristen Wiig as Barbara Ann Minerva aka Cheetah.

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[crazy_asian_man]

Hmm.... Shazam could go either way, but going 'light' and 'family friendly' definitely feels right to me for the material. (much like Antman).

[Metallo]

Tonally they are making the right choice but I’m questioning the execution. I get Green Lantern vibes. Also hard to see this as existing in the same universe as MOS and BvS. Makes me wish Shazam had been the start of a rebooted universe if it’s good.

[crazy_asian_man]

Jul 15, 2018 10:27:15 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Tonally they are making the right choice but I’m questioning the execution. I get Green Lantern vibes. Also hard to see this as existing in the same universe as MOS and BvS. Makes me wish Shazam had been the start of a rebooted universe if it’s good.

Castingwise if you were going for 'boyish', casting Chuck was probably spot-on for Captain Marvel. Cautiously optimistic.

Hopefully it won't try to please all directions and end up being a mess.

[Metallo]

Yeah I’m fine with Levi. He’s likable and funny. They could have done worse. Plus it’s funny to think about him already being a rival for a former Superman.

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All I can see...

[crazy_asian_man]

Jul 15, 2018 10:45:57 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Yeah I’m fine with Levi. He’s likable and funny. They could have done worse. Plus it’s funny to think about him already being a rival for a former Superman.

Far better fit for him than Fandral from Thor.... though, his parts were so small, there really wasn't much point in casting him...

[Metallo]

He pretty much didn’t even have a part on the last one. I think he got out a grunt when he died. I preferred the other guy but like you said Levi didn’t get much to do.

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So, is there any chance at all Aquaman will be watchable? 

My imagination isn't stretching far enough to understand what they're going for. Underwater Arthurian legend meets Tolkien epic? 

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Please don't be like that creepy scene in Hook where the kid plays with Robin Wiliams' face.

"There you are, Peter!" 

[Metallo]

His leads aren’t exactly great thespians. They can be entertaining and bring personality but the supporting cast looks better.

It really depends on what James Wan brings. The story has to be good but the underwater world he creates will sell it. I think it’s got a good chance of being watchable but I’m not expecting to be blown away in an era where they can do anything. We’ve seen plenty of movies with big spectacle and the stills from Aquaman haven’t exactly wowed me either.

Jul 16, 2018 19:24:34 GMT -5 @roffellamo said:

Please don't be like that creepy scene in Hook where the kid plays with Robin Wiliams' face.

"There you are, Peter!" 

The suit at least looks better there. Here’s hoping it stays that way.

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First official photo of Joaquin Phoenix from Todd Phillips “Joker.”



Apparently his characters name in the film will be Arthur Fleck

[crazy_asian_man]

Sept 16, 2018 16:06:56 GMT -5 Metallo said:

First official photo of Joaquin Phoenix from Todd Phillips “Joker.”



Apparently his characters name in the film will be Arthur Fleck

Hard to see any real reason for this film or entertainment value..... but then again, I said the same before "X-men: First Class" came out.... so, guess we'll see....

[Metallo]

They’re trying to throw out some Oscar bait and get back to the time of Dark Knight where they had a film with mainstream dramatic praise.

I’m torn on it. On one hand I like the idea of doing a stand alone elseworldsesque film where the filmmakers get to do whatever they want. The new take is actually one of the draws.

On the other hand Todd Phillips has had his ups and downs as a director and I’d prefer it if they put every bit of effort into righting the ship with the mainline DC movies. Fix the other stuff before you go off in other directions. Aquaman has to work.

[crazy_asian_man]

Sept 17, 2018 16:27:03 GMT -5 Metallo said:

They’re trying to throw out some Oscar bait and get back to the time of Dark Knight where they had a film with mainstream dramatic praise.

I’m torn on it. On one hand I like the idea of doing a stand alone elseworldsesque film where the filmmakers get to do whatever they want. The new take is actually one of the draws.

On the other hand Todd Phillips has had his ups and downs as a director and I’d prefer it if they put every bit of effort into righting the ship with the mainline DC movies. Fix the other stuff before you go off in other directions. Aquaman has to work.

In a way, I'm kind of glad that Donner's STM came out when it did and got the acclaim it deserved..... if it had come out now, I think it would be buried under all the inconsistent big (and low) budget fantasy and superhero fare now.

[Metallo]

That’s a great point. The movie didn’t get influenced by the ups and downs of the genre and its tropes and formulas because the genre didn’t exist yet. To me stm was at the time an action adventure fanatasy movie that drew more from Bond, Star Wars, Close Encounters and all the other genre movies of the ere. It even has some planet of the apes music in its trailer because that fit the tone they were going for with it. All other comic book movies are influenced by each other and in that sense STM stands apart.

[crazy_asian_man]

Sept 18, 2018 9:21:44 GMT -5 Metallo said:

That’s a great point. The movie didn’t get influenced by the ups and downs of the genre and its tropes and formulas because the genre didn’t exist yet. To me stm was at the time an action adventure fanatasy movie that drew more from Bond, Star Wars, Close Encounters and all the other genre movies of the ere. It even has some planet of the apes music in its trailer because that fit the tone they were going for with it. All other comic book movies are influenced by each other and in that sense STM stands apart.

Very true-
To me, the directing/editing style of Speilberg at that time I thought easily mirrored Donner's style in STM.... The way the shots were framed, the pacing of the editing, etc.-

If you were to say that Donner directed CE3K and Speilberg directed STM at the time, I wouldn't really blink an eye.

But- since both had done tons of television before then, it's perhaps not surprising that they would make their camera work more interesting for the big screen.... versus a Lester who shot his Superman material in a very 'cheap tv' way....

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It’s a photo test of Phoenix they released. Might not be the final make-up but it’s an official photo.

I...like it. It’s still Jokery and weird but different enough from what they did with Ledger and Leto which it needed to be. Phoenix looks part John Wayne Gacy, part Pennywise, part Cesar Romero/Heath Ledger Pagliacci mask Joker.