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Post by SGB on Oct 8, 2008 8:24:06 GMT -5
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Post by ye5man on Oct 8, 2008 8:48:53 GMT -5
Perhaps she could have spoke to Jack about this? Who wouldn't? Especially at such a young age? For the uninitiated, the Express newspaper is frickin insane. |
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Post by EvilSupes on Oct 8, 2008 9:32:05 GMT -5
Well it's certainly understandable that Mr Reeve was fully 'into' his Superman character. I think he just wanted him to be portrayed in the best possible way. I get the impression Mr Reeve is like a method actor, and is conscientious in the part he plays.
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Post by Legsy on Oct 8, 2008 9:43:08 GMT -5
Kidder felt the same way (not the dull part). But come on, he was what, 24 or 25? First major role in his career. Who wouldn't get caught up?
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 8, 2008 12:00:07 GMT -5
"Brands"? More like "mentions in passing".
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Post by Jacob on Oct 8, 2008 13:51:16 GMT -5
because you guys are so full pro christopher where he could not do wrong.. I doubt that you would beleive any actors that worked with him that had problems with him. Jack was the first to mention it, and now margot and with sarah.. sarah is a very professional lady. she never says hardly anything bad about a person. there is a differnce.. they worked with chris.. the fans did not.. who are you going to believe? you always hear rumors about william shatner with the other cast members.. same thing.
we all know that chris was not perfect.. he certainly become a better person when he had his accident.
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Post by joey m on Oct 8, 2008 16:50:24 GMT -5
Actors are always bitchy, especially about the main stars. They take it too seriously, they don't take it seriously enough, blah blah. Reeve had about a million times more pressure on him than anyone else acting in those movies. But maybe he should be constantly taking the cast crew out for ice cream.
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Post by supes78 on Oct 8, 2008 21:05:16 GMT -5
Man, that was not classy of Sarah Douglas at all. The man is dead, so now she decides to spill the beans on decades old differences. I agree with everyone else, the guy was only in his mid 20s and was bound to feel the responsibilities of carrying such a weighty part on his shoulder. Think about it, tens of millions of dollars, the entire cast and crew, Warner Bros, investors, Donner, and the Salkind's all had their expectations placed squarely on Reeve's performance, which could make or break all the years dedicated to bringing Superman to the big screen. I'd be bitchy, too under those circumstances. Like I said, very unclassy move on Douglas' part.
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Post by Ollie W on Oct 8, 2008 21:45:22 GMT -5
because you guys are so full pro christopher where he could not do wrong.. I doubt that you would beleive any actors that worked with him that had problems with him. Jack was the first to mention it, and now margot and with sarah.. sarah is a very professional lady. she never says hardly anything bad about a person. there is a differnce.. they worked with chris.. the fans did not.. who are you going to believe? you always hear rumors about william shatner with the other cast members.. same thing. we all know that chris was not perfect.. he certainly become a better person when he had his accident. Jacob I'm sure Chris wasn't perfect, nobody is. That doesn't however excuse Jack O'Halloran for suggesting that Chris deserved what happened to him. Such remarks like that go way beyond casual Hollywood bickering. Chris's legacy is written, nothing will change that and he will forever remain a hero in the eyes of millions. There's a lot of people out there who could learn from Chris's integrity. Their legacy is still not written. |
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Post by supes78 on Oct 8, 2008 22:05:11 GMT -5
I fully believe his ultimate legacy will be a cure of paralysis.
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Post by Jacob on Oct 8, 2008 23:18:24 GMT -5
this proves my point.. you guys over react to everything.. nothing is going to change your mind. like I said.. sarah never hardly ever says about someone in a bad.. this was the first time.. which is probably why she never says anything.. because it would get this kind of reaction. when I met people who have worked with sarah.. I never heard a bad thing about her. never.
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Post by Legsy on Oct 8, 2008 23:27:39 GMT -5
Did Chris take his role to seriously? Maybe, I wasn't there. But, Kidder, Douglas and Jack seem to think he did. It was his first major role in his career, how would you handle it? Kidder mentioned this on the SE documentaries way before Reeve passed. Big deal. Jack said he deserved it. He denies it, but I've heard from several sources that he did say it.
Anyhoo, we all say things that we don't really mean from time to time. The past is the past. If your reading this Jack, I apologize for coming off like an ass. I tend to be very blunt at times, it's both my forte and my downfall.
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Post by Jacob on Oct 8, 2008 23:34:27 GMT -5
did you guys actaully read it.. she said that he was like the character of clark kent which could be considered dull.
this was an interview from a magazine in the UK. a few months back. I have the complete interview.
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Superman Star 'Brands Reeve Dull'
8 October 2008 5:09 AM, PDT | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news
British actress Sarah Douglas has reportedly launched an attack on her late Superman co-star Christopher Reeve - branding him "dull" and "difficult" to work with.
Douglas, who played baddie Ursa in two of the iconic superhero movies, has spoken out about her true feelings for Reeve, who died in 2004 from a heart attack after years of being wheelchair-bound following a horse-riding accident in 1995.
And the 55-year-old apparently admits she wasn't his biggest fan on the sets of Superman and Superman II, insisting he got wrapped up in playing the beloved role.
According to Britain's Daily Express, she said: "I've never really spoken about Christopher because he is no longer here to defend himself.
"But I used to be continually asked about him and, choosing my words carefully, would always say he's very much like Clark Kent: a real gent - very polite and perhaps a little dull.
"I never really knew him that well. I socialised with everybody else but not him. But at the beginning he was a very fresh-faced young American and at the end it was difficult. He definitely got caught up with his own Superman image."
And the actress soon realised she wasn't the only one struggling to work alongside Reeve - she alleges Margot Kidder, famous for her role as Lois Lane in the films, described him as "a right pain in the a***".
And Douglas admits this made her feel better about her own opinions, adding: "I was so relieved that somebody else had found him tricky.
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Post by Legsy on Oct 8, 2008 23:37:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I read it. Steve has the interview up on his site.
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Post by Jacob on Oct 8, 2008 23:43:37 GMT -5
the article is differnt and much better.. it explains even more that was not in the other one.
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Sarah Douglas, who played alien Ursa in the first two Superman movies, says actress Margot Kidder, who famously portayed Lois Lane, also found Reeve hard to work alongside.
Reeve, who became the epitome of the caped superhero, died in 2004 from complications following a riding accident which left him suffering paralysis from the neck down.
British actress Douglas said: "I suffered a lot of back injuries on Superman and could only walk for about an hour on the wires during my flying scenes and then had to have an hour off. And Christopher didn't take too kindly to the fact that this slowed things down so it was a bit tricky.
"At the beginning he was a very fresh-faced young American and at the end it was difficult. He definitely got caught up with his own Superman image."
The actress claims that when she finally revealed her feelings to co-star Kidder, she replied: "Oh he was a right pain."
Douglas added: "I was so relived that somebody else had found him tricky. You don't want to speak ill of someone who has had a terrible accident. But my understanding is that after the injury everybody said he was a changed man and became an incredibly humble and generous guy."
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Post by HOSNI on Oct 9, 2008 0:42:11 GMT -5
As we all know Kidder implied this was the case years ago (albeit in a humourous and retrospective tone). So Sarah alludes to the same observations, so what? It doesn’t change the fact he was young, took his role seriously and in turn created an amazing product.
“because you guys are so full pro christopher where he could not do wrong” I doubt that you would believe any actors that worked with him that had problems with him” and “you guys over react to everything.. nothing is going to change your mind”
For Jacob; your quotes above here are inappropriate. Don’t assume you know how people here think, if you read the threads it’s obvious we all recognize the guy wasn’t perfect.
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Post by Jacob on Oct 9, 2008 1:11:44 GMT -5
I have been coming to this forum for a while.. its in differnt carnations of the forum. I know the attitude of many in here. they are very pro chris reeve. so for them to hear that someone did not get along when they have no idea what was going on during the making the movie makes it very difficult to defend them. none of us were there when they made the film.. you have to take in the fact on what the cast say about it. there are some that will not believe that and others that will.
that is all that I am saying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2008 2:36:12 GMT -5
That's nice, Sarah. No go back to obscurity.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 9, 2008 2:55:10 GMT -5
People have different levels of what they can hear about someone who they respect and admire.
Nobody is perfect, that's a given.
The problem with the press, print, and the internet is that everything is given far more power than it should have at times....good and bad.
I distrust soundbytes from news articles--- many times a journalist (or an editor) may have an agenda that differs from the person being interviewed.
If asked what working with someone we admire was like, that person may say ten million positive things, and maybe one or two less than positive things to give the whole picture--- but then what may stick out is the one or two less than positive things.
As a reader, do we want the full truth or only the positives? The interviewer could well have wanted both sides of the person and may have prodded the interviewee for SOMETHING negative.... we really don't know, we only get what's been published or posted.
Before we attack people who may have worked with Reeve for months- maybe it's good to take into account what we will allow people to say what they felt about working with him.... only positive things or any/all antedotes?
Reeve's legacy for what he contributed to the world (not just the movies) is so greaat that it can bear all perspectives, in my opinion. It just depends on what we can stand to hear or read about him from his co-workers--- but it's not bad to bear in mind that oftentimes its coming from journalists/editors who may or may not want to present the full picture of what the person said, but may be after a particular soundbyte to make the article more dramatic or controversial.
Me, I'm curious about it all- but take it all with a grain of salt, too.
That's all I got.
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Post by ye5man on Oct 9, 2008 3:22:14 GMT -5
I personally don't think she's lying Jake, but its a bit rich for attacking us collectively as being pro-Chris Reeve when you're so obsessed with Sarah Douglas.
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Post by Olly H 82 on Oct 9, 2008 4:23:01 GMT -5
yeah Yesman is right, anyone who says anything bad about Jack or Sarah, Jacob always jumps into defend them.
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Post by ye5man on Oct 9, 2008 5:49:45 GMT -5
Aye, and the replies here were very mature and unbiased before Jacob responsed with:
with a bit of defensive aggresion.
Sarah would know better than any of us of course and I welcome her opinions, but I don't like the way Jacob assumes we wouldn't hear a bad word of Reeve when infact so many of us want to hear these stories of people not getting on with him. The guy wasn't perfect, but that's perfectly fine with me. Who the heck could like a perfect person?
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Post by Pineapples101 on Oct 9, 2008 8:20:33 GMT -5
Reading through - I don't think anyone actually said anything bad about Sarah? Jacob - you may just be being a bit too defensive of Sarah. In a preemptive sense. Plus we all know you have a major boner for her  |
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Post by EvilSupes on Oct 9, 2008 8:54:17 GMT -5
Mr Reeve is probably looking down at this and laughing. ;D |
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Post by Legsy on Oct 9, 2008 9:48:15 GMT -5
I hope so. I hope God takes his humanitarian work in consideration to get into Heaven. I hope he didn't strike out by having children out of wedlock. |
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