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Post by Metallo on Oct 17, 2018 9:40:35 GMT -5
So some fan made version is better than what they spent millions actually trying to do in justice league. The mind boggles at just how incompetent Hollywood is sometimes. But the kicker is it gets even creepier at the end so watch all the way through.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 18, 2018 2:51:48 GMT -5
So some fan made version is better the millions they spent actually trying to do the same thing with justice league. The mind boggles at just how incompetent Hollywood is sometimes. But the kicker is it gets even creepier at the end so watch all the way through. I just saw this from the same guy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANXucrz7HjsPretty amazing (and scary) stuff. |
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Post by Metallo on Mar 2, 2019 20:14:03 GMT -5
Not all that convincing (mouth ain’t moving in sync and that hairline looks odd on Reeve) but it’s STILL better than the work they did in the actual movie and shows how far these people are coming with this stuff.
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Post by Metallo on Jun 29, 2019 21:37:51 GMT -5
Getting scary what they can do with deepfakes technology. The computer software actually did a pretty good job recreating Reeves facial expressions. Still not perfect and you can definitely see a few frames where it struggled to fill in the gaps but the fact that this blows away what a 300 million dollar movie did and with a different actors face no less is pretty impressive.
Still selfishly hoping we’re a step closer to seeing someone do a Reeve Superman fan film finished off with deepfakes on the actors but the common sense part of me is telling the fanboy part of me that the technology getting to that level would have awful real world repercussions.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 30, 2019 14:35:10 GMT -5
Getting scary what they can do with deepfakes technology. The computer software actually did a pretty good job recreating Reeves facial expressions. Still not perfect and you can definitely see a few frames where it struggled to fill in the gaps but the fact that this blows away what a 300 million dollar movie did and with a different actors face no less is pretty impressive. Still selfishly hoping we’re a step closer to seeing someone do a Reeve Superman fan film finished off with deepfakes on the actors but the common sense part of me is telling the fanboy part of me that the technology getting to that level would have awful real world repercussions. Hopefully a wise programmer gets ahead of this and can create software to help identify quickly what video/film footage is computer generated or not... Sad if the world blows up from the truth getting buried and fake inflammatory media causing trouble.... So- Yeah- fan side says 'awesome'! The adult side gets worried, but I guess eventually people will (hopefully) come back to the center and verifiable truth becomes the main value over internet 'news'.... |
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Post by Kamdan on Jul 1, 2019 23:19:22 GMT -5
Maybe Thau can now make that villains take over the world scene... please?
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Post by atp on Jul 2, 2019 1:04:11 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 6, 2019 23:22:28 GMT -5
Maybe Thau can now make that villains take over the world scene... please? Seems like the tech is there completely now....so it could be done, but sadly it wouldn't be able to fix some of the other Reeve/Kidder scenes unfilled for a complete Donner cut...  |
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Post by dugpa on Jul 6, 2019 23:26:55 GMT -5
They could always shoot new footage with actors that have the same build and facial structure. I’m certain it will happen in the next 3-5 years.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 6, 2019 23:32:04 GMT -5
They could always shoot new footage with actors that have the same build and facial structure. I’m certain it will happen in the next 3-5 years. I think they could do that now, and not cost a fortune.... but without a strong force in the right spot pushing for it (I don't know how much clout or interest Donner has right now)- and with the movies getting older and older, I'd be suprised if WB would invest in a new Donner Cut- would love it, but- I'm even worried that something as simple as releasing a letterbox blu-ray of the SII tv cut might not happen right now, even with the big sales of the STM cut & soundtrack. Still..... if STM tv cut came out of nowhere, I guess it is possible for nice things happening under the radar.... (crossing fingers) |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 8, 2019 18:16:19 GMT -5
It would still cost a lot for WB to invest in an old movie. For a new blockbuster they’re trying to finish? Sure. Things like that are done now if necessary but an already existing film? Plus depending on the kind of technology they use it’s probably not going to quite be there in 3-5 years. It’s getting closer and closer but for it to be perfect (which it needs to be) there’s going to still be a lot of trial and error if we want involved long scene performances. They can do minor stuff now but the more you ask of these digital facsimiles the more flaws are apparent.
As close as we’ve seen is what Disney has been doing but with captain Marvel Sam Jackson was the one still driving the performance. De aging seems to be easier than recreating an actor over another actor especially if you don’t have the old actor around and involved in the process. Blade Runner 2049 had a living Sean Young to work with and reference which was a major advantage compared to Rogue One trying to recreate Peter Cushing. No matter how good the technology is you’re going to need some incredible mimics coupled with the best programs to drive the performances. We’re talking actors that can copy facial movements, body language, and voice for it to really work.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 8, 2019 21:33:37 GMT -5
It would still cost a lot for WB to invest in an old movie. For a new blockbuster they’re trying to finish? Sure. Things like that are done now if necessary but an already existing film? Plus depending on the kind of technology they use it’s probably not going to quite be there in 3-5 years. It’s getting closer and closer but for it to be perfect (which it needs to be) there’s going to still be a lot of trial and error if we want involved long scene performances. They can do minor stuff now but the more you ask of these digital facsimiles the more flaws are apparent. As close as we’ve seen is what Disney has been doing but with captain Marvel Sam Jackson was the one still driving the performance. De aging seems to be easier than recreating an actor over another actor especially if you don’t have the old actor around and involved in the process. Blade Runner 2049 had a living Sean Young to work with and reference which was a major advantage compared to Rogue One trying to recreate Peter Cushing. No matter how good the technology is you’re going to need some incredible mimics coupled with the best programs to drive the performances. We’re talking actors that can copy facial movements, body language, and voice for it to really work. I'd be totally fine if they just had animatics and restore as much as they could, as long as they stuck to Mank's script. Doing a 'work print' for SII I think would get WB to feel like they don't need to pay top dollar for every shot and still satisfy fan interest. In a way, I feel like that's what we sort of got with the Donner cut- but the choices were just awful editorially on the stuff that was fine (or good enough) in the theatrical cut. If the production team were on a shoestring for time and money, then I don't get why they didn't just leave the stuff that was already done by Baird & scored already rather than waste time adding different music and re-editing those pieces. I know that Thau has said that in some cases the original shot was unusable or that he wanted to use an alternate take for a new experience.... but so many of the alternate choices were poorer and/or didn't really match the feeling of the old cut that it's a head scratcher to this day. I also am not sure I'd want them to 'over' upgrade the fx... but on the other hand, they definitely went the other direction with some of the shots that looked like bad tv fx from the 80's.... too far! |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 9, 2019 10:30:52 GMT -5
If they did redo some effects I’d like to see to see them remain true to what it could have looked like in the 70s like what was done with Star Trek remastered or some of the Doctor Who remastered episodes. It doesn’t take you out of the story.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 10, 2019 0:23:01 GMT -5
If they did redo some effects I’d like to see to see them remain true to what it could have looked like in the 70s like what was done with Star Trek remastered or some of the Doctor Who remastered episodes. It doesn’t take you out of the story. Selutron's use of integrating bits of movies that were around the same time period I thought was genius for his fan cut. Would be nice if the powers that could do an official recut did the same. |
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Post by magicjim on Jul 14, 2019 8:44:38 GMT -5
It's Derpfakes, not Deepfakes.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 15, 2019 14:45:26 GMT -5
It's Derpfakes, not Deepfakes. The PROCESS (which is what I’m talking about) is called DEEPFAKES. It’s only one guys channel that’s called Derpfakes. In case you didn’t notice from all the other videos I’ve posted from different people more than one person does this. |
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Post by Metallo on May 9, 2020 19:07:22 GMT -5
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Post by booshman on May 9, 2020 22:25:43 GMT -5
That was very cool. I saw someone request this on another vid and hoped he'd do it. Watching the clip made me feel really sad, hopefully there's an alternate universe out there where a very old Reeve is still kicking it and enjoying the comic book movie boom were in. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 10, 2020 19:54:33 GMT -5
Once again.... very cool and very disturbing how convincing this is. At the same time.... I was so happy to see Routh 'grow' into the role (even if only for a short time) for a return visit- that I probably thought it was already cool to see Routh return to it, again, if only briefly. |
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Post by dejan on May 11, 2020 9:20:33 GMT -5
Once again.... very cool and very disturbing how convincing this is. At the same time.... I was so happy to see Routh 'grow' into the role (even if only for a short time) for a return visit- that I probably thought it was already cool to see Routh return to it, again, if only briefly. Totally agree.....very cool and very worrying! On the positive side I think we have now reached the point where an SII cut of Donner's original script can be made using this deepfake tech + a lot of money(and voice simulating tech). Scenes at Niagra falls between Clark and Lois(as originally scripted)and the villains taking over the world(as originally scripted) could be completed utilising this tech and that is a mouth watering prospect. On the negative side here is a video showing how they pull this stuff off and the possible implications: On a separate note......this one is a hoot: |
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Post by Metallo on May 12, 2020 16:34:22 GMT -5
Once again.... very cool and very disturbing how convincing this is. At the same time.... I was so happy to see Routh 'grow' into the role (even if only for a short time) for a return visit- that I probably thought it was already cool to see Routh return to it, again, if only briefly. Totally agree.....very cool and very worrying! On the positive side I think we have now reached the point where an SII cut of Donner's original script can be made using this deepfake tech + a lot of money(and voice simulating tech). Scenes at Niagra falls between Clark and Lois(as originally scripted)and the villains taking over the world(as originally scripted) could be completed utilising this tech and that is a mouth watering prospect. On the negative side here is a video showing how they pull this stuff off and the possible implications: |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 13, 2020 13:52:58 GMT -5
Once again.... very cool and very disturbing how convincing this is. At the same time.... I was so happy to see Routh 'grow' into the role (even if only for a short time) for a return visit- that I probably thought it was already cool to see Routh return to it, again, if only briefly. Totally agree.....very cool and very worrying! On the positive side I think we have now reached the point where an SII cut of Donner's original script can be made using this deepfake tech + a lot of money(and voice simulating tech). Scenes at Niagra falls between Clark and Lois(as originally scripted)and the villains taking over the world(as originally scripted) could be completed utilising this tech and that is a mouth watering prospect. The good/bad about what would have made the Clark and Lois scene magical is the personal performances and touches that Reeve and Kidder would have added to that scene... that Deepfakes software I don't think could replicate- and the closest might be actors who could try to invoke their best version of Reeve/Kidder then apply the tech on top... As entertaining as it is for fans, though, I imagine this must be extra-disturbing for the Reeve family to see their decased dad's likeness on these deepfakes. Can't imagine. |
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Post by Metallo on Feb 6, 2021 10:16:15 GMT -5
Boy is that creepy. Out of all the Cage deepfakes out there I’m surprised it took so long to get to more like this.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 9, 2021 1:49:16 GMT -5
Boy is that creepy. Out of all the Cage deepfakes out there I’m surprised it took so long to get to more like this. The Nicolas Cage one is hilarious.... I like the actor, but if anything could show how wrong he was for the role, I think this is it! |
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Post by Metallo on Feb 13, 2021 17:21:35 GMT -5
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