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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 14, 2020 16:10:22 GMT -5
With all due respect to the actor, hopefully they reboot Jimmy Olsen to be someone not suave nor a love interest--- but a short red-headed young nerdy but enthusiastic geek. Apparently, after Crisis they have the opportunity to- so they should imo!
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Post by Metallo on Feb 14, 2020 22:09:34 GMT -5
I doubt it since they’ve brought Jimmys sister onto the show and I don’t think they’re going to radically alter anything there since it would affect her too. Plus Winn pretty much took on the classic Jimmy style role. I’d hate to see them pull a Smallville and make the characters more convoluted than it needs to be. They’ve made their bed so they may as well lie in it there. Besides with Brooks gone and now doing other things I don’t think he’ll end up as a regular on Superman and Lois anyway.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 15, 2020 1:30:35 GMT -5
I doubt it since they’ve brought Jimmys sister onto the show and I don’t think they’re going to radically alter anything there since it would affect her too. Plus Winn pretty much took on the classic Jimmy style role. I’d hate to see them pull a Smallville and make the characters more convoluted than it needs to be. They’ve made their bed so they may as well lie in it there. Besides with Brooks gone and now doing other things I don’t think he’ll end up as a regular on Superman and Lois anyway. I guess I should just be happy that the Berliantiverse actually welcomes tights and flights.... In any case, It is kind of interesting that we are going to get a Superman tv series at all.... will be interesting to see what different take they focus on. The two sons already makes it different.... will see from there...
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Post by Metallo on May 15, 2020 9:07:04 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 15, 2020 22:26:00 GMT -5
i actually think the premise is interesting as an ‘elseworlds’ but my main excitement is if they have alternate routh superman stop by... just never ever was carzy about this casting for either supes nor lois....
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Post by Metallo on Aug 13, 2020 21:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Sept 1, 2020 15:43:35 GMT -5
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Post by EnriqueH on Sept 1, 2020 16:00:10 GMT -5
How’s Tyler Holchein? Is he good?
Now that I finished Smallville, I started up on Arrow, which I’m enjoying. Only 10 episodes in so far.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 1, 2020 18:05:27 GMT -5
How’s Tyler Holchein? Is he good? Now that I finished Smallville, I started up on Arrow, which I’m enjoying. Only 10 episodes in so far. Arrow is very watchable- I still feel Justin Hartley is more what I think of when I think of Arrow, but in spite of that- it's very watchable, though I think there's a bit of miscasting with major players and villains now and then and a good percentage of 'filler' (particularly the Felicity romance stuff, which I guess is cheaper to film than the action bits...but still...) but it's a decent enough watch. Personally, I enjoyed Flash and Supergirl more, though (more humor and lightness).
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Post by Metallo on Sept 1, 2020 19:41:58 GMT -5
How’s Tyler Holchein? Is he good? Now that I finished Smallville, I started up on Arrow, which I’m enjoying. Only 10 episodes in so far. HE is a solid Superman. He started strong as a much welcome antidote to Snyderman but I feel the writing has let Hoechlin down sometimes in the last couple of years. That has nothing to do with his performance though.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 1, 2020 20:53:47 GMT -5
How’s Tyler Holchein? Is he good? Now that I finished Smallville, I started up on Arrow, which I’m enjoying. Only 10 episodes in so far. HE is a solid Superman. He started strong as a much welcome antidote to Snyderman but I feel the writing has let Hoechlin down sometimes in the last couple of years. That has nothing to do with his performance though. I like him in a Batfleck sort of way. In that, I give props that the actor is earnest and giving his all.... but physically Hoechlin's looks doesn't 'feel' like Superman to me- but that's extremely subjective, of course.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 1, 2020 22:00:51 GMT -5
Well you mean he doesn’t LOOK like Superman to you. Feel is something else. Like his performance or maybe his personality or the way he carries himself.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 2, 2020 12:42:24 GMT -5
Well you mean he doesn’t LOOK like Superman to you. Feel is something else. Like his performance or maybe his personality or the way he carries himself. I probably will get used to him over more time, but with different actors playing Superman or Bond (or other famous pop characters), I have a subjective radar that immediately clicks where I don't see the actor but the character. To me, Superman's casting was giantly physical look- moreso than most other characters. Having Jimmy Olsen taller than him in Supergirl didn't help things... but, Hoechlin gives a good performance but physically I see a guy and not Superman... again, subjective. In the case of Welling or Chris Gerard- Those castings in two seconds physically made me think: "yup, that's definitely Superboy/Clark". I like the different premise and angle chosen for the series- it helps differentiate it as an alternate Superman, though. And.... still hoping that this show does give Routh more opportunities to play Superman while he's young enough to still do so.
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Post by booshman on Sept 3, 2020 21:57:37 GMT -5
In that promo pic you could fit your fist down the front of Superman's top.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 3, 2020 22:11:34 GMT -5
Well you mean he doesn’t LOOK like Superman to you. Feel is something else. Like his performance or maybe his personality or the way he carries himself. I probably will get used to him over more time, but with different actors playing Superman or Bond (or other famous pop characters), I have a subjective radar that immediately clicks where I don't see the actor but the character. To me, Superman's casting was giantly physical look- moreso than most other characters. Having Jimmy Olsen taller than him in Supergirl didn't help things... but, Hoechlin gives a good performance but physically I see a guy and not Superman... again, subjective. In the case of Welling or Chris Gerard- Those castings in two seconds physically made me think: "yup, that's definitely Superboy/Clark". I like the different premise and angle chosen for the series- it helps differentiate it as an alternate Superman, though. And.... still hoping that this show does give Routh more opportunities to play Superman while he's young enough to still do so. I think the look is important but the actors talent and approach is equally important. I give comic book characters some leeway since they’ve been drawn by so many artists some more definitive than others. Cain Hoechlin and Reeves look the part of a traditional Superman less than Cavill for example but I’d argue they all did a better job in the role. Welling looks the part but I found his greenness to be very off putting in those early seasons in particular and it’s always been obvious how uncomfortable he is as Superman even on the brief glimpses we’ve seen of him as Superman.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 4, 2020 10:27:05 GMT -5
I probably will get used to him over more time, but with different actors playing Superman or Bond (or other famous pop characters), I have a subjective radar that immediately clicks where I don't see the actor but the character. To me, Superman's casting was giantly physical look- moreso than most other characters. Having Jimmy Olsen taller than him in Supergirl didn't help things... but, Hoechlin gives a good performance but physically I see a guy and not Superman... again, subjective. In the case of Welling or Chris Gerard- Those castings in two seconds physically made me think: "yup, that's definitely Superboy/Clark". I like the different premise and angle chosen for the series- it helps differentiate it as an alternate Superman, though. And.... still hoping that this show does give Routh more opportunities to play Superman while he's young enough to still do so. I think the look is important but the actors talent and approach is equally important. I give comic book characters some leeway since they’ve been drawn by so many artists some more definitive than others. Cain Hoechlin and Reeves look the part of a traditional Superman less than Cavill for example but I’d argue they all did a better job in the role. Welling looks the part but I found his greenness to be very off putting in those early seasons in particular and it’s always been obvious how uncomfortable he is as Superman even on the brief glimpses we’ve seen of him as Superman. It's unfair to the actor completely (and I realize it) but Hoechlin has an interesting look- but I have to work overtime to tell myself, "ok, this is Superman- deal with it".... again, it's a subjective thing. The show sounds so different that I'm interested enough in it.... but - again - why not have had Routh instead - he's RIGHT THERE- and he's not getting any younger! (Though he still looks like a God compared to us puny mortals). Yeesh. But, I'll get over it (eventually if the world doesn't collapse before then). To this day I still don't get Welling. He seems like a nice guy, but if he started off (as I believe) modeling underwear, how would someone be comfortable with that, but not with wearing a Superman suit? The performance is of course important, but for me superhero live action casting really works when you see the actor and it's such perfect casting that you don't think about anything else... and right there it's at a great place. A lot of Berlianti's casting has been a bit 'off' for my tastes- with some spots where I agree.... but overall (even when it feels like overkill on formula)- his shows are mostly very watchable--- in contrast to much of the Netflix Marvel shows, which have mostly been a chore to get through.
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Post by EnriqueH on Sept 17, 2020 13:29:22 GMT -5
Coming up on the end of season 2 of Arrow, love Manu Bennett as Deathstroke.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 18, 2020 13:47:16 GMT -5
Coming up on the end of season 2 of Arrow, love Manu Bennett as Deathstroke. It's been awhile so I don't remember the casting of Deathstroke, but Esai Morales was fantastic as Deathstroke in "Titans"- I didn't think it was going to work, but I felt it really did. Physically he doesn't have the white hair but everything else in the performance was spot on, if not more- but then again the smart thing in Titans is that they worked in the strained relationships with his kids which may have given him more to play with. On the flip side, I remember REALLY being put off by the guy who played Merlin- he just seems too nice a guy and/or not scary looking at all. (Would be like casting a young Ron Howard as Thanos.)
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Post by Metallo on Nov 22, 2020 14:54:56 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Dec 9, 2020 15:29:43 GMT -5
Looks pretty spiffy but it’s hard to have a final opinion on it since it’s so heavily photoshopped and not an untouched photograph. Hopefully some things look better in real photos. It looks to be inspired by the New 52 and DC rebirth suits especially the belt which is a major improvement over the old one. Between this and the behind the scenes spy photos that have leaked from the set the muscle suit and physique look more streamlined, heroic, and dynamic too. I like the more classic cape tuck over the previous shoulder attachments. Hopefully the boots are cut like the ones from the black Elseworlds costume just red. My single biggest complaint is its got the same problem as the Superman Returns suit with the neckline being too high and tight. If they can fix that or it looks better in person I’m happy.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 9, 2020 17:09:18 GMT -5
It's a neat image... but with my 'meh' feelings on the show based on the casting, I guess I answered my own question on whether or not a dentist playing Superman would have made for a lot of excitement or not.... regardless of story and production value-
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Post by Metallo on Dec 9, 2020 20:44:15 GMT -5
If the dentist had been as good as Hoechlin he might have gotten the job.
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Post by booshman on Dec 10, 2020 3:00:41 GMT -5
Looks like the SR suit with the texture of the amazing Spider-Man suit. I like it better than the last one but it doesn't wow me either. Hopefully a regular photo is out soon to have a proper look.
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Post by Metallo on Dec 11, 2020 16:25:28 GMT -5
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