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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 19, 2021 14:02:53 GMT -5
Well, two friends saw it the other day- both of whom rarely agree on anything and say:
#1: Yes, it is better.
#2: It's not terrible.
#3: Good watch.
#4: Basically the same story, though.
I'm glad to hear that. I still don't trust Snyder's aesthetics enough to prefer him to be back in charge of DC material... but I'm glad if it's a good watch.
When it gets to blu ray I'll check it out...
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Post by Metallo on Mar 19, 2021 14:31:53 GMT -5
Well, two friends saw it the other day- both of whom rarely agree on anything and say: #1: Yes, it is better. #2: It's not terrible. #3: Good watch. #4: Basically the same story, though. I'm glad to hear that. I still don't trust Snyder's aesthetics enough to prefer him to be back in charge of DC material... but I'm glad if it's a good watch. When it gets to blu ray I'll check it out... It’s been pretty mixed to positive overall. Most people think it’s better or at least more consistent but some people still are not only not impressed but find it way too long and boring. I haven’t sat down and watched it all yet but I’ve seen bits and pieces. I think of what I’ve seen it’s got the same problems as his last few movies. Overly indulgent and violent simply for the sake of it. I honestly think Whedon handled the Wonder Woman/terrorist sequence better. Snyder’s version was full of violence with no real moral weight or reflection on what was being done. I’ve got no problem with bad guys being killed but when it’s handled like a video game you’ve lost me. It’s obvious Snyder is only interested in doing Injustice or The Justice Lords. It’s all Grimdark dudebro action. The slow motion and speed ramping is also obscenely overdone in my opinion. Snyder also clearly repurposed footage of actors from other movies (especially of Superman) for certain scenes like the nightmare future sequences. It shows that all that wasn’t in his original cut of footage and was part of the brief round of reshoots he did recently. Some of the cgi and green screen work is surprisingly subpar. It shows that they needed a lot more time and money to get it looking right. Darkseid looks ridiculous at times. Letos Joker somehow comes off as worse to me than he did in Suicide Squad. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 19, 2021 14:59:00 GMT -5
Well, two friends saw it the other day- both of whom rarely agree on anything and say: #1: Yes, it is better. #2: It's not terrible. #3: Good watch. #4: Basically the same story, though. I'm glad to hear that. I still don't trust Snyder's aesthetics enough to prefer him to be back in charge of DC material... but I'm glad if it's a good watch. When it gets to blu ray I'll check it out... It’s been pretty mixed to positive overall. Most people think it’s better or at least more consistent but some people still are not only not impressed but find it way too long and boring. I haven’t sat down and watched it all yet but I’ve seen bits and pieces. I think of what I’ve seen it’s got the same problems as his last few movies. Overly indulgent and violent simply for the sake of it. I honestly think Whedon handled the Wonder Woman/terrorist sequence better. Snyder’s version was full of violence with no real moral weight or reflection on what was being done. I’ve got no problem with bad guys being killed but when it’s handled like a video game you’ve lost me. It’s obvious Snyder is only interested in doing Injustice or The Justice Lords. It’s all Grimdark dudebro action. The slow motion and speed ramping is also obscenely overdone in my opinion. Snyder also clearly repurposed footage of actors from other movies (especially of Superman) for certain scenes like the nightmare future sequences. It shows that all that wasn’t in his original cut of footage and was part of the brief round of reshoots he did recently. Some of the cgi and green screen work is surprisingly subpar. It shows that they needed a lot more time and money to get it looking right. Darkseid looks ridiculous at times. Letos Joker somehow comes off as worse to me than he did in Suicide Squad. Thanks for sharing. If it's well-choreographed action scenes, I can enjoy it on that basis.... hopefully it's not like season 1 of Titans that were extremely graphic and dark. But it's amazing already at the amount of money pumped into this thing to begin with. (If only they'd do the same with SII....)  |
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Post by Metallo on Mar 20, 2021 14:32:24 GMT -5
I honestly can’t get over how bad some of the cgi is. It shows the absurd amounts of money Snyder needed to make his films look good. I’m sure covid restrictions didn’t make it easy but still.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 20, 2021 15:28:33 GMT -5
I honestly can’t get over how bad some of the cgi is. It shows the absurd amounts of money Snyder needed to make his films look good. I’m sure covid restrictions didn’t make it easy but still. Just watched the first episode of "Falcon and the Winter Soldier" with its amazing production values and fx and action... it didn't look like movie level quality, but it looked like an EXPENSIVE movie level quality.... but I doubt that they had the budget of a regular Marvel movie- but it looks like it! If $20 mil went into the Snyder cut and it doesn't look that great.... what are they doing with that money then??? |
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Post by Metallo on Mar 20, 2021 17:37:24 GMT -5
Snyder’s films are arguably more cgi heavy than even most of the marvel films. Superman’s cape is cg half the time. So much more work has to be done to get the looks he wants. He wants to control every minute detail visually. It’s very time consuming. All the green screen work probably doesn’t help either. When you look at the budgets for his DC films vs most of the Marvel films it’s astonishing. MOS cost more than The Avengers. BvS Cost even more than that. I’ve never thought he was the most economical filmmaker. When you look at all the extra unneeded stuff he shoots that doesn’t even need to be in his films that’s more money down the tubes. If he had more focus everything in his films would be better but it’s like Snyder has ADD.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 22, 2021 1:53:06 GMT -5
Snyder’s films are arguably more cgi heavy than even most of the marvel films. Superman’s cape is cg half the time. So much more work has to be done to get the looks he wants. He wants to control every minute detail visually. It’s very time consuming. All the green screen work probably doesn’t help either. When you look at the budgets for his DC films vs most of the Marvel films it’s astonishing. MOS cost more than The Avengers. BvS Cost even more than that. I’ve never thought he was the most economical filmmaker. When you look at all the extra unneeded stuff he shoots that doesn’t even need to be in his films that’s more money down the tubes. If he had more focus everything in his films would be better but it’s like Snyder has ADD. Weta was suprisingly the fx company. Huh. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZoAjuQ6cRk |
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