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Post by Metallo on Oct 24, 2022 12:09:32 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/henry-cavill-confirms-his-superman-return/Its been the worse kept secret in Hollywood the last few months but The Rock and his management finally made it happen. Someone online put it perfectly. "It feels more like a threat than a promise." Guess we've gone from Zack Snyder screwing over the DC universe to Dwayne The Rock Johnson taking his turn to stroke his own ego. Black Adam looks utterly mediocre and Cavill may be the worst Superman in my lifetime. They're trying their hardest to make me completely give up on them because we're stuck with a Superman with all the flair of a rice cake for a few more years. Worst of all I can see Dwayne Johnson trying to take over everything to make it “his” franchise. It’s like DC is an abused orphan that we’ve been watching get bounced from one crappy foster home to another. They were so close to throwing all that poop out and starting over a few years ago (at least with Superman) but I guess we'll have to wait until the next movie flops before they finally start over from scratch. Hopefully l'll still be alive to see it. DC Films: one step forward, two steps back.
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Post by dejan on Oct 24, 2022 19:46:08 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 25, 2022 2:34:44 GMT -5
Well...
At this point, it's no suprise that I always wanted Routh chosen to return as Supes-
But...
With the DCEU having become the mixed up disaster that it is....
I kind of gave up hope back when Superman Returns didn't get a sequel and Dark Knight Rises ended (badly) the Christian Bale Batman films.
I wanted (if they had to go that way) the Superman reboot to be great and impressive- but - while I still maintain there's stuff I liked in Man of Steel and BvS and the Snyder JL....
With a Superman tv show, with the deluge of mediocre (or worse) DC adaptations...
And then with Marvel starting to really disappoint me as well....
I feel like my enjoyment of superhero films probably peaked- so, barring Routh returning-
I'll go see any future Superman films- and if it's Cavill - I shrug (I mainly had problems with the stories he was in rather than him directly) and just have low expectations.
There's enough of a chunk of great superhero highs I had with Marvel and DC- while I hope they get me excited again, I'm not expecting them to. Cavill to me is better than Hoechlin, but it's all subjective.
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Post by atp on Oct 25, 2022 2:51:57 GMT -5
I bet it will be crap
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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2022 10:24:21 GMT -5
Well... At this point, it's no suprise that I always wanted Routh chosen to return as Supes- But... With the DCEU having become the mixed up disaster that it is.... I kind of gave up hope back when Superman Returns didn't get a sequel and Dark Knight Rises ended (badly) the Christian Bale Batman films. I wanted (if they had to go that way) the Superman reboot to be great and impressive- but - while I still maintain there's stuff I liked in Man of Steel and BvS and the Snyder JL.... With a Superman tv show, with the deluge of mediocre (or worse) DC adaptations... And then with Marvel starting to really disappoint me as well.... I feel like my enjoyment of superhero films probably peaked- so, barring Routh returning- I'll go see any future Superman films- and if it's Cavill - I shrug (I mainly had problems with the stories he was in rather than him directly) and just have low expectations. There's enough of a chunk of great superhero highs I had with Marvel and DC- while I hope they get me excited again, I'm not expecting them to. Cavill to me is better than Hoechlin, but it's all subjective. I think Hoechlin has outdone Cavill in every way in terms of performance. When he was first cast his work was very well received and now Superman & Lois has had a better reception than anything Cavill has ever done as Superman. Hoechlin gets it in terms of character and he had the right charm and personality even when the material wasn’t that great. That’s the sign of a great Superman. Cavill looks good but that’s the only thing most people ever point to. That’s secondary to me. Someone even said of his work on The Witcher he just has to stand there and look good. He’s got all the personality of a plank of wood. He’s going to need serious help to fix that and I just don’t see it coming especially if the people responsibly for what he does next are Dwayne Johnson and his camp. It’s awful that Cavill keeps on getting chance after chance while Routh never did on the big screen. It’s like I’ve said for years the shared universe gives Cavill an advantage the others never had. Even if they never make more Superman movies there will always be a place for him to be used because the whole thing is in too deep to just scrap it. That and it doesn’t hurt to have people with influence going to bat for you which is something Routh never had. Dany Garcia was able to leverage Dwayne Johnson’s current position as star of a big film to get Cavill another chance. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2022 10:26:37 GMT -5
Considering how mixed the reaction to Black Adam has been overall and how thoroughly mediocre it looks that’s a safe bet. I wouldn’t be shocked if Johnson and his people are going to have a say in any future Superman project with Cavill and they aren’t going to bring in a truly gifted filmmaker. They’re going to get someone they can control. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2022 10:28:53 GMT -5
Cavill officially returns as Superman: It’s sad to see them continuing to make the same mistakes with DC. It’s like watching a battered wife go from man to man thinking each time it’s going to be different but every new one still slaps the piss out of her. And us fans are the kids that have to stand by and watch it all go down. |
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Post by dejan on Oct 25, 2022 11:16:12 GMT -5
Cavill officially returns as Superman: It’s sad to see them continuing to make the same mistakes with DC. It’s like watching a battered wife go from man to man thinking each time it’s going to be different but every new one still slaps the piss out of her. And us fans are the kids that have to stand by and watch it all go down. That's a good analogy.........but in this instance the woman is getting paid to get slapped around! She is making a profit(be it marginal or substantial) whilst doing it! And I am as guilty as the next guy. Indeed, I went to watch MoS in the cinema in 2013. I bought the Blu Rays for Mos and BvS. I also acquired the quite expensive UHD for JL(theatrical). So it's ironic, given the fact that I detest all 3 flicks.......that I have paid into the coffers of these guys(WB). The only lesson these douchebags will understand, is when their wallets take a hit. It's the main reason why I still have not watched Snyder's JL and missed most of the new wave of Marvel, with the exception of No Way Home. It's taken me a long time to learn the most basic of lessons. We have to vote with our wallets......it's the only way to have an impact on theirs. That in turn could have an impact on their approach to creative filmmaking. Maybe......maybe not......but it's worth a chance. One thing is for sure......the more we continue to pay them for making sugar like MoS ect ect......the more they will churn out the same old sugar. Back in the early 80s , I watched STM in the cinema twice(81' and 84'), SII twice(81' and 82') and SIII twice(83' and 84'). I bought(well ,my parents did!) the V2000 video tape (early european competitor to VHS and Betamax) for SIII in 1985. Not to mention other various paraphanelia(LPs,Magazines,T-Shirts,Lunch Boxes ect ect). Now, I did watch SIV in the cinema in 87', but steadfastly refused to go back and watch it again(by contrast, I had seen Star Trek IV-The Voyage Home , at least 3 times that same summer). I resolutely declined to buy SIV , when it debuted on video in 1988, with my paper round money......shocking my mates who always knew me as a Supes nut. So it's the only Reeve Supes film that I saw in the cinema on just the one occasion. So I'd like to think I played my own little part in the downfall of that big pile of trash. Fooling me once was bad enough with SIV........really wish it was never made and that I never forked out the 2 quid(3 dollars) to watch it in the first place. I should have applied that same method to the contemporary WB(and even some Marvel) stuff.......but I got suckered in by the hype and paid into their bank accounts. End of the day , Cavill,Snyder and The Rock make WB money. But they ain't getting another cent out of me.......not that it will make any difference because a bucket load of other fans will go watch whatever stuff they put out.....lol. |
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Post by dejan on Oct 25, 2022 11:30:14 GMT -5
You wrote in another thread(sorry-can't remember which one!), that first and foremost, they need to make a great movie that is in turn, a great superhero movie........and that's the best way to approach the quagmire that we find ourselves in. That's what STM is. I would argue that SII(theatrical) is aswell. To be fair that's how they were received at the time they came out considering there was no such thing as a Superhero movie. STM and SII were just judged on the merits of being a good(or bad) movie. Simple.....no ifs and buts. But in the contemporary age....... Snyder and the rest are so fixated on making a great action/fantasy/superhero flick that all we get is sub standard comic book adaptation fare. The whole approach needs to be revolutionised........and just trying to make a good all round movie is the only way left to achieve said goal. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2022 12:29:46 GMT -5
It’s sad to see them continuing to make the same mistakes with DC. It’s like watching a battered wife go from man to man thinking each time it’s going to be different but every new one still slaps the piss out of her. And us fans are the kids that have to stand by and watch it all go down. That's a good analogy.........but in this instance the woman is getting paid to get slapped around! She is making a profit(be it marginal or substantial) whilst doing it! And I am as guilty as the next guy. Indeed, I went to watch MoS in the cinema in 2013. I bought the Blu Rays for Mos and BvS. I also acquired the quite expensive UHD for JL(theatrical). So it's ironic, given the fact that I detest all 3 flicks.......that I have paid into the coffers of these guys(WB). The only lesson these douchebags will understand, is when their wallets take a hit. It's the main reason why I still have not watched Snyder's JL and missed most of the new wave of Marvel, with the exception of No Way Home. It's taken me a long time to learn the most basic of lessons. We have to vote with our wallets......it's the only way to have an impact on theirs. That in turn could have an impact on their approach to creative filmmaking. Maybe......maybe not......but it's worth a chance. One thing is for sure......the more we continue to pay them for making sugar like MoS ect ect......the more they will churn out the same old sugar. Back in the early 80s , I watched STM in the cinema twice(81' and 84'), SII twice(81' and 82') and SIII twice(83' and 84'). I bought(well ,my parents did!) the V2000 video tape (early european competitor to VHS and Betamax) for SIII in 1985. Not to mention other various paraphanelia(LPs,Magazines,T-Shirts,Lunch Boxes ect ect). Now, I did watch SIV in the cinema in 87', but steadfastly refused to go back and watch it again(by contrast, I had seen Star Trek IV-The Voyage Home , at least 3 times that same summer). I resolutely declined to buy SIV , when it debuted on video in 1988, with my paper round money......shocking my mates who always knew me as a Supes nut. So it's the only Reeve Supes film that I saw in the cinema on just the one occasion. So I'd like to think I played my own little part in the downfall of that big pile of trash. Fooling me once was bad enough with SIV........really wish it was never made and that I never forked out the 2 quid(3 dollars) to watch it in the first place. I should have applied that same method to the contemporary WB(and even some Marvel) stuff.......but I got suckered in by the hype and paid into their bank accounts. End of the day , Cavill,Snyder and The Rock make WB money. But they ain't getting another cent out of me.......not that it will make any difference because a bucket load of other fans will go watch whatever stuff they put out.....lol. You’re a fan like the rest of us and probably wanted to give them a fair chance. No shame in that. You’re probably also a completist since despite the way it all turned out MOS, BvS, and JL were huge deals. They were events and involved quite a few “firsts” for all these characters. I own all those films too but it’s mostly for completist/historical reasons not because I think they’re any good or because I have any desire to rewatch any of them ever again. I feel the same as you going forward. This news has killed much of the enthusiasm I had left for anything DCEU related. I’m about ready to quit and move on and never give them another dime. That’s how deflated, defeated, disappointed, and disgusted I am with the DCEU and how they keep on stepping in piles of crap. Its like a big middle finger to a portion of the fanbase that was there supporting their product long before the Zack Snyder bandwagon jumpers. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2022 12:38:52 GMT -5
You wrote in another thread(sorry-can't remember which one!), that first and foremost, they need to make a great movie that is in turn, a great superhero movie........and that's the best way to approach the quagmire that we find ourselves in. That's what STM is. I would argue that SII(theatrical) is aswell. To be fair that's how they were received at the time they came out considering there was no such thing as a Superhero movie. STM and SII were just judged on the merits of being a good(or bad) movie. Simple.....no ifs and buts. But in the contemporary age....... Snyder and the rest are so fixated on making a great action/fantasy/superhero flick that all we get is sub standard comic book adaptation fare. The whole approach needs to be revolutionised........and just trying to make a good all round movie is the only way left to achieve said goal. With MOS Snyder was fixated on making a sci fi alien invasion drama and he couldn’t even do that well. It also was a lousy superhero movie and a worse Superman movie. It was a lousy movie in general. He’s not a good enough filmmaker or storyteller to pull off what he was attempting. Donner could make a film of any kind. Snyder can’t make a film of any kind at least not without a lot of help and guidance. Snyder’s more at home with effects and more concerned with the veneer of the movie not what’s underneath it all and wether it works. That’s the real problem with all those films. They’re made by amateurs and wannabes instead of professionals with real talent and experience. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 25, 2022 21:34:18 GMT -5
That's a good analogy.........but in this instance the woman is getting paid to get slapped around! She is making a profit(be it marginal or substantial) whilst doing it! And I am as guilty as the next guy. Indeed, I went to watch MoS in the cinema in 2013. I bought the Blu Rays for Mos and BvS. I also acquired the quite expensive UHD for JL(theatrical). So it's ironic, given the fact that I detest all 3 flicks.......that I have paid into the coffers of these guys(WB). The only lesson these douchebags will understand, is when their wallets take a hit. It's the main reason why I still have not watched Snyder's JL and missed most of the new wave of Marvel, with the exception of No Way Home. It's taken me a long time to learn the most basic of lessons. We have to vote with our wallets......it's the only way to have an impact on theirs. That in turn could have an impact on their approach to creative filmmaking. Maybe......maybe not......but it's worth a chance. One thing is for sure......the more we continue to pay them for making sugar like MoS ect ect......the more they will churn out the same old sugar. Back in the early 80s , I watched STM in the cinema twice(81' and 84'), SII twice(81' and 82') and SIII twice(83' and 84'). I bought(well ,my parents did!) the V2000 video tape (early european competitor to VHS and Betamax) for SIII in 1985. Not to mention other various paraphanelia(LPs,Magazines,T-Shirts,Lunch Boxes ect ect). Now, I did watch SIV in the cinema in 87', but steadfastly refused to go back and watch it again(by contrast, I had seen Star Trek IV-The Voyage Home , at least 3 times that same summer). I resolutely declined to buy SIV , when it debuted on video in 1988, with my paper round money......shocking my mates who always knew me as a Supes nut. So it's the only Reeve Supes film that I saw in the cinema on just the one occasion. So I'd like to think I played my own little part in the downfall of that big pile of trash. Fooling me once was bad enough with SIV........really wish it was never made and that I never forked out the 2 quid(3 dollars) to watch it in the first place. I should have applied that same method to the contemporary WB(and even some Marvel) stuff.......but I got suckered in by the hype and paid into their bank accounts. End of the day , Cavill,Snyder and The Rock make WB money. But they ain't getting another cent out of me.......not that it will make any difference because a bucket load of other fans will go watch whatever stuff they put out.....lol. You’re a fan like the rest of us and probably wanted to give them a fair chance. No shame in that. You’re probably also a completist since despite the way it all turned out MOS, BvS, and JL were huge deals. They were events and involved quite a few “firsts” for all these characters. I own all those films too but it’s mostly for completist/historical reasons not because I think they’re any good or because I have any desire to rewatch any of them ever again. I feel the same as you going forward. This news has killed much of the enthusiasm I had left for anything DCEU related. I’m about ready to quit and move on and never give them another dime. That’s how deflated, defeated, disappointed, and disgusted I am with the DCEU and how they keep on stepping in piles of crap. Its like a big middle finger to a portion of the fanbase that was there supporting their product long before the Zack Snyder bandwagon jumpers. I'm adapting to the idea that the quantity of superhero films really makes it a genre unto itself that's not going away... but I admit it's hard to know how much the comic fans affect the bottom line with Marvel Studios having converted (sort of) many mainstream folks to possibly check out a superhero film, if it looks interesting enough to them- knowing it might not be all the same formula per se anymore. I don't see the DCEU exciting me again nearly as much as the first two Nolan Batman films, the Donner-influenced Superman films, the first half of the first Wonder Woman movie, and I know I'm in a slim minority that actually enjoyed the Snyder JL for what it was- I hope to be proven wrong with Gunn in the lead (for now) at WB/DC--- but the things that might excite me now are solo properties that I hope get done well to my satisfaction- the New Gods, Manhunter, and possibly the Green Lantern reboot. In any case, I've grown up so hungry to have well done superhero live action films, that I'm on one hand an easy audience to check something out ONCE if it's superhero related.... but maybe not multiple times. Will see what happens with Gunn- but, if they really wanted to thrill me, they would have announced Bale back as Batman and Routh back as Supes. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2022 23:12:14 GMT -5
You’re a fan like the rest of us and probably wanted to give them a fair chance. No shame in that. You’re probably also a completist since despite the way it all turned out MOS, BvS, and JL were huge deals. They were events and involved quite a few “firsts” for all these characters. I own all those films too but it’s mostly for completist/historical reasons not because I think they’re any good or because I have any desire to rewatch any of them ever again. I feel the same as you going forward. This news has killed much of the enthusiasm I had left for anything DCEU related. I’m about ready to quit and move on and never give them another dime. That’s how deflated, defeated, disappointed, and disgusted I am with the DCEU and how they keep on stepping in piles of crap. Its like a big middle finger to a portion of the fanbase that was there supporting their product long before the Zack Snyder bandwagon jumpers. I'm adapting to the idea that the quantity of superhero films really makes it a genre unto itself that's not going away... but I admit it's hard to know how much the comic fans affect the bottom line with Marvel Studios having converted (sort of) many mainstream folks to possibly check out a superhero film, if it looks interesting enough to them- knowing it might not be all the same formula per se anymore. I don't see the DCEU exciting me again nearly as much as the first two Nolan Batman films, the Donner-influenced Superman films, the first half of the first Wonder Woman movie, and I know I'm in a slim minority that actually enjoyed the Snyder JL for what it was- I hope to be proven wrong with Gunn in the lead (for now) at WB/DC--- but the things that might excite me now are solo properties that I hope get done well to my satisfaction- the New Gods, Manhunter, and possibly the Green Lantern reboot. In any case, I've grown up so hungry to have well done superhero live action films, that I'm on one hand an easy audience to check something out ONCE if it's superhero related.... but maybe not multiple times. Will see what happens with Gunn- but, if they really wanted to thrill me, they would have announced Bale back as Batman and Routh back as Supes. The genre needs to diversify its content and take risks to remain viable. They seem to be trying to do that. Fox was. WB has been. Now Disney is trying too. Of course they also have to be good. Overexposure and burnout are big risks but trying different things and making good productions will mitigate that. As far as comic fans we are a drop in the bucket. But they’d have converted new people into causal fans and then some of those casual fans into die hard movie fans. Most of all they need to keep on bringing in new fans and making as many as possible more loyal fans. |
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Post by dejan on Oct 29, 2022 10:59:11 GMT -5
Metallo and CAM We have a Pirates Of The Carribean conundrum that is affecting the movie buisiness at the moment. I will explain. Pirates 5 is f**king aweful. I mean it's at a Superman IV level of awefulness (allbeit with better effects...lol). But if you check out Box Office Mojo, it finished at 11 in the worldwide box office gross for 2017. By contrast Superman IV finished at 69 for 1987. And there is the difference. Fantasy films these days have a lot more leeway to be totally bunk......and still survive commercially at the box office. In contrast, Superman IV, Jaws IV and Star Trek V......, sunk without trace back in the day, prohibiting any further advancements in mediocrity. And that's the challenge we face at the moment. The cinematic conditions are ripe to permit absolute junk to pass through the b******t filter! And that's where the likes of Abrahams,Bay and Snyder permeate through........and multiply like a virus.....lol.......with the Studios only too happy to play ball.
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Post by atp on Oct 29, 2022 12:44:22 GMT -5
Mr Thau please replace Henry Cavill with Brandon Routh in CGI
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Post by Metallo on Oct 29, 2022 15:51:06 GMT -5
Metallo and CAM We have a Pirates Of The Carribean conundrum that is affecting the movie buisiness at the moment. I will explain. Pirates 5 is f**king aweful. I mean it's at a Superman IV level of awefulness (allbeit with better effects...lol). But if you check out Box Office Mojo, it finished at 11 in the worldwide box office gross for 2017. By contrast Superman IV finished at 69 for 1987. And there is the difference. Fantasy films these days have a lot more leeway to be totally bunk......and still survive commercially at the box office. In contrast, Superman IV, Jaws IV and Star Trek V......, sunk without trace back in the day, prohibiting any further advancements in mediocrity. And that's the challenge we face at the moment. The cinematic conditions are ripe to permit absolute junk to pass through the b******t filter! And that's where the likes of Abrahams,Bay and Snyder permeate through........and multiply like a virus.....lol.......with the Studios only too happy to play ball. It’s about the big cgi action and spectacle. That’s what’s drawing audiences in especially in some foreign markets where the cultural differences means they don’t interpret movies the same way we do. That’s why we’ve seen crappy Transformers movies, crappy Pirates movies, crappy Jurassic World movies, etc. making so much money in recent years. At certain points it gets old and the audience eventually catches on that the movies are awful but that can take a while. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 29, 2022 15:59:34 GMT -5
Mr Thau please replace Henry Cavill with Brandon Routh in CGI The two biggest reasons Cavill has kept on getting play to Superman while Routh never did are the shared universe concept and better representation/more influential people going to bat for him. Even if Cavill’s Superman movies failed the overall franchise / universe is too far in and too big to scrap. That meant there was always a chance he could come back and play the character even if it wasn’t in a Superman film. Cavill also had people pushing for his return that not only didn’t give up but also had more influence on the studio. If Routh had those same things he might still be playing the character on the big screen. Cavill has had advantages none of the others ever did including Reeve. Even then it took the studio getting sold, old bosses leaving, and new ones coming in for him to finally get another shot five years later. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 29, 2022 21:16:50 GMT -5
Metallo and CAM We have a Pirates Of The Carribean conundrum that is affecting the movie buisiness at the moment. I will explain. Pirates 5 is f**king aweful. I mean it's at a Superman IV level of awefulness (allbeit with better effects...lol). But if you check out Box Office Mojo, it finished at 11 in the worldwide box office gross for 2017. By contrast Superman IV finished at 69 for 1987. And there is the difference. Fantasy films these days have a lot more leeway to be totally bunk......and still survive commercially at the box office. In contrast, Superman IV, Jaws IV and Star Trek V......, sunk without trace back in the day, prohibiting any further advancements in mediocrity. And that's the challenge we face at the moment. The cinematic conditions are ripe to permit absolute junk to pass through the b******t filter! And that's where the likes of Abrahams,Bay and Snyder permeate through........and multiply like a virus.....lol.......with the Studios only too happy to play ball. Star Trek always had a specific audience range- but when the story was as bad as Trek V was, it was doomed. Star Trek IV didn't exactly have a giant sense of spectacle- but it was a great story with a good balance. Superman IV- Is a weird bug. Fans of the original franchise I think were interested, but with the story chopped to incomprehension--- it's hard to know if enough fans would have forgiven the cheap downsizing of fx and budget or the age of some of the performers at that point to make just enough box office to continue. But- it is possible that if the fx spectacle were there in SIV- that other countries who just want spectacle might have made SIV enough of a success overseas. While action and spectacle have been - to a degree - solid money internationally, it's hard to say when it just won't matter anymore box office-wise with the abundance of action and spectacle on streaming tv at home. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 29, 2022 21:18:57 GMT -5
Mr Thau please replace Henry Cavill with Brandon Routh in CGI The two biggest reasons Cavill has kept on getting play to Superman while Routh never did are the shared universe concept and better representation/more influential people going to bat for him. Even if Cavill’s Superman movies failed the overall franchise / universe is too far in and too big to scrap. That meant there was always a chance he could come back and play the character even if it wasn’t in a Superman film. Cavill also had people pushing for his return that not only didn’t give up but also had more influence on the studio. If Routh had those same things he might still be playing the character on the big screen. Cavill has had advantages none of the others ever did including Reeve. Even then it took the studio getting sold, old bosses leaving, and new ones coming in for him to finally get another shot five years later. Good points. If Snyder had chosen to keep Routh for his Snyderverse- It is possible he'd still be able to get a chance to return. I'm glad, though, at the very least (and it is the least)- that he was able to come back for Crisis on tv. Who knows how things will turn out in the future, but there is a limited window age-wise for Routh to come back as Supes... hopefully some miracle will show up. |
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Post by atp on Nov 20, 2022 6:50:49 GMT -5
I heard that the Reeve Only People have infiltrated WB and sabotaged Cavill's new movie
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 20, 2022 12:42:34 GMT -5
James Gunn might not be who I would have preferred as the ultimate leader of the DCEU, but given his track record and given DC's record and my own disappointment with MCU .... he's a relatively good enough choice to figure out something. If it was said Gunn and Whedon - or Gunn and Singer - it might really have gotten me excited. |
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Post by Metallo on Dec 14, 2022 21:47:24 GMT -5
Looks like James Gunn was the hero we were waiting for. The era of Snyderman is ended. Our long national nightmare is finally over. I’m guessing the abject failure of Black Adam was the nail in the coffin. It was hyped up to be Cavill’s triumphant return only for most people not to give a sh!t. It didn’t get enough butts in seats.
Maybe now we can get a great big screen Superman again. This truly was the best Christmas present I could get this year. Thoughts?
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Post by Metallo on Dec 14, 2022 23:47:24 GMT -5
Henry Cavill posted the following message on his Instagram account:
“I have just had a meeting with James Gunn and Peter Safran and it’s sad news, everyone. I will, after all, not be returning as Superman. After being told by the studio to announce my return back in October, prior to their hire, this news isn’t the easiest, but that’s life. The changing of the guard is something that happens. I respect that. James and Peter have a universe to build. I wish them and all involved with the new universe the best of luck, and the happiest of fortunes.”
“For those who have been by my side through the years… we can mourn for a bit, but then we must remember… Superman is still around. Everything he stands for still exists, and the examples he sets for us are still there! My turn to wear the cape has passed, but what Superman stands for never will. It’s been a fun ride with you all, onwards and upwards.”
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