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Post by Shane on Feb 14, 2009 23:32:24 GMT -5
SUPERMAN RETURNS
adam got pwned
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 1:26:29 GMT -5
From unnecessary Ben hubbard still lingering in the movie like a rotting wound, to Luthor being a golddigger, to Superman's gang rape (which it was. I don't consider it appropriate for any Superman story, and won't listen other opinions on this subject. It's one thing for Superman to be involved in inferred premarital sex. Its another when a children's fictional character is violated. It's offensive and unnecessary). I'd rather watch Donner Cut than Superman Returns any day. LOL!!! Ahh man, come on guys, we can beat SR in this poll!! VOTE!! The Donner cut has wonderful Chris Reeve and Brando footage; classic pieces of Donner directed Superman that is worth preserving. SR was just the Superman movie of 06... they'll be another in a few years it was nothing special. |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Feb 15, 2009 11:10:56 GMT -5
This conversation is so stupid. "I'm sure he filled it back up."  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 11:18:56 GMT -5
The Donner Cut wasn't even a Superman movie.
You're silly, guy. Wish I could send you an e-hug.
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Post by ShogunLogan on Feb 15, 2009 11:44:28 GMT -5
Well, it's obvious you don't know simple arithmetic. The film grossed $391,081,192 worldwide. The average ticket price around the world is $10. So, if you divide $391,081,192 by $10 that means 39,108,119.2 people paid to see the film. If my calculations are correct. I maybe a dumb banker. Well...technically...that means 39,108,119.2 tickets were sold using your math...not necessarily that many people went to see it...many people saw it more than once. But if I was stranded on an island, I would bring Marisa Miller.  |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Feb 15, 2009 11:44:32 GMT -5
Well, it's obvious you don't know simple arithmetic. The film grossed $391,081,192 worldwide. The average ticket price around the world is $10. So, if you divide $391,081,192 by $10 that means 39,108,119.2 people paid to see the film. If my calculations are correct. I maybe a dumb banker. Well...technically...that means 39,108,119.2 tickets were sold using your math...not necessarily that many people went to see it...many people saw it more than once. But if I was stranded on an island, I would bring Marisa Miller. |
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 11:53:03 GMT -5
Oh God... please tell me people didn't see SR in cinemas more than once. I heard there was an increase in out of wed-lock births after SR though....
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 11:57:20 GMT -5
Another thing I HATE about the vile pathetic piece of worm ridden filthy waste of film known as SR:::: It was never properly explained why Superman was gone for 6... no wait they changed it to 5 years didn't they at the last minute.. I guess it really doesn't matter how long he was gone for right? I mean he coulda been gone for 4, 5, 6... 10 years right because... astronomers thought they found krypton !!!! The reality is he just left for some vague dumb-ass reason and shows up without any ramifications (the public not trusting him again, trying to get his job back, a new villian who took over the world in his absense, etc.) it was just.....crap.
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 15, 2009 14:04:56 GMT -5
Another thing I HATE about the vile pathetic piece of worm ridden filthy waste of film known as SR:::: It was never properly explained why Superman was gone for 6... no wait they changed it to 5 years didn't they at the last minute.. I guess it really doesn't matter how long he was gone for right? I mean he coulda been gone for 4, 5, 6... 10 years right because... astronomers thought they found krypton !!!! The reality is he just left for some vague dumb-ass reason and shows up without any ramifications (the public not trusting him again, trying to get his job back, a new villian who took over the world in his absense, etc.) it was just.....crap. No it wasn't crap at all wanting to find out if there might be any survivors from his homeworld. I think his reason for leaving was quite compelling, understandable and human. It was his duty even. Superman cares about everybody, not just planet Earth. Besides, he is a gift to the world, he does what he does out of goodwill and compassion. Humans don't own him. And I think it's MUCH more crappy when he abandoned Earth FOREVER in SII by renouncing to his powers, just to sleep with his smoker and undeserving girl. Go Supes... That was crappy and completely selfish. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 15, 2009 14:31:49 GMT -5
Adam15 said, Because it's a movieSR is also a movie. Clark just found out somehow. How convinient... I think maybe Supes followed her home one day and found out where she lived. Supes didn't follow her home it would be completely out of character. Prove it. There is no evidence to say he didn't. Y'know sometimes the simplest expanation is the correct one. Exactly. Y'know Clark and Lois DID have a date that night... member? And we never saw Lois informing Superman of her home address.. did we? So a plothole? Nah, it's just a movie of a flying alien in tights, right? She obviously had told Clark where she lived ... she wasn't like WTF Clark how did you know where I live?? I can't believe I gotta explain this... Have you guys even seen STM?Yes, she TOLD Clark.. not Superman. BTW in STM it was innocent of Supes to look @ her lungs with X-Ray vision; he didn't see anything naugty or private.. How do you know he didn't? and it was to check her healthMost certainly. He is Superman. He is a good and decent guy. In SR, however, he looks into her right pocket while standing to her left meaning her saw completely through her south of the equator w/o her permission... Not really. You are conveniently forgetting that in the previous scene inside the DP, Clark saw when Lois put the recorder inside her right pocket. in STM he had permission to do that and he stopped at her underwear Again, how do you know that's all he saw? I could easily say that he saw much more than that, see? Like Metallo said, you just pick and choose what supports your arguments. It's so obvious and silly.
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Post by Legsy on Feb 15, 2009 14:41:20 GMT -5
Oh God... please tell me people didn't see SR in cinemas more than once. I heard there was an increase in out of wed-lock births after SR though.... There was a spike in premarital sex after Superman II was released that caused many unwed mothers to have abortions. Of course you weren't alive back in 1980 since you're only 15 so you don't know about that. |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Feb 15, 2009 15:20:48 GMT -5
You're playing into his hands, 'gazer...
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 15, 2009 15:46:31 GMT -5
You're playing into his hands, 'gazer... You think? I really don't feel that way, not this time at least. It was fun actually.  |
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 15:49:05 GMT -5
She obviously had told Clark where she lived ... she wasn't like WTF Clark how did you know where I live?? I can't believe I gotta explain this... Have you guys even seen STM?Yes, she TOLD Clark.. not Superman. OH MY GOD... didn't you realize that Clark IS Superman?? I thought that was obvious please tell me that part didn't go over your head!!.... erm well the way I figure it if Lois tells Clark something (like where she lives) then Superman will automatically know it because Clark=Superman. |
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 15:59:18 GMT -5
no no no... in SII Superman made a commitment WAY MORE binding than marriage... he GAVE UP HIS POWERS FOR HER!! In a marriage you can always get a divorce but going into the chamber really meant that there was no going back for Supes (in Lester's SII Lara really meant it when she said there was no return... Clark only got his powers back on an unforeseen technicality) So before Superman banged Lois he DID make a serious commitment (the ultmate commitment) to her!!!
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Post by Legsy on Feb 15, 2009 16:26:07 GMT -5
You're right, Adam. Forgive my ignorance. But, since we are on the subject of TDC and SR, in TDC Supey banged Lois before giving up his powers. So, he laid the seed for SR to happen. A super-powered sperm impregnated Lois and the child she gave birth to is Jason. Damn that Richard Donner!
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 17:01:10 GMT -5
yea but Supes went back in time so that he and Lois never slept together. It never happened .... that history was erased from the fabric of time.  Besides they never even had in intercourse in TDC.. they only cuddled. Oh and also at least Superman DID commit to Lois in the Donner's Cut!! In SR Superman doesn't have any intention of having a future with Lois, and it's worse in that case because there is a kid involved!!! |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Feb 15, 2009 17:08:55 GMT -5
Yes, but to her, they are different people. She never told Superman so she never thought "how does Superman know where I live?"
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 17:17:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Feb 15, 2009 17:45:24 GMT -5
OMG it was a heath check up with her lungs dude... did you sue your doctor for sexual harassment when you got your colon checked??? Lois was almost asking Supes if she had lung cancer with her glib remark about why she shouldn't smoke... he did her a favor there because he could have detected an early cancer. Read my above post, Superman didnt see anything private in STM w/o permission... but he did in SR; seeing through her hips to her right pocket from her left side which means he saw all the way through her. Oh and Metallica? Superman only hears Lex Luthors high frequency in STM; he doesn't listen to the entire city. BTW, yeah Superman created a deep pot hole in the street in STM... big deal... I'm sure he filled it back up. due to some unfortunate decisions in the editing process a critical scene was absent : luthor reveals that HE ( luthor ) faked the satellite images to make it appear that - though very damaged - krypton was still in existance. superman ( after the events of SII - very lonely and the only other kryptonians he knows are zod and co. ) impulsively builds a ship and leaves to find it.  oddly, the SR videogame actually had the dialog and scene exposition correct. here is a fan-cut that solves the problem. |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Feb 15, 2009 17:56:22 GMT -5
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Post by Legsy on Feb 15, 2009 18:03:32 GMT -5
Silly me, again I was owned by a 15 year old. My ego is bruised.  |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Feb 15, 2009 18:16:24 GMT -5
You are missing it for HER point of view. She told Clark...she does not know Clark is Superman...in her mind, how did Superman know where she lived? She has not told Superman...they never discussed it. |
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 18:27:59 GMT -5
That's a pretty good nitpick we have here; Lois should have realized that Superman shouldn't have known where she lived. Doesn't change the fact that Supes didn't stalk her. I guess Lois "must have known for the longest time" that Clark was Superman? OR she assumed that he stalked her but was too star struck to care. Regardless, it doesn't matter what Lois's POV was; Superman didn't stalk her!
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Post by adam15 on Feb 15, 2009 18:31:13 GMT -5
damn... that must be from the X rated Donner fortress scenes that they didn't release!
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