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Post by atp on Jul 2, 2024 21:25:56 GMT -5
1) If MoS was really so good, why has MoS2 not happened yet? It has been 11 years.
2) Why have the Reeve Only People still not been identified? It has been 11 years.
3) When is the apology to Enrique for the bullying going to be issued? Surely the bullies don't need 11 years to write an apology.
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Post by crown on Jul 2, 2024 22:31:30 GMT -5
1) If MoS was really so good, why has MoS2 not happened yet? It has been 11 years. 2) Why have the Reeve Only People still not been identified? It has been 11 years. 3) When is the apology to Enrique for the bullying going to be issued? Surely the bullies don't need 11 years to write an apology. Try to answer, please What am I gonna do with you ATP? I mean I held up my end I delivered you the leader of the Reeve Only Bullies.. what do I get? Just more of your trolling which closes out of town. |
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Post by crown on Jul 3, 2024 9:12:57 GMT -5
I believe he’s in home confinement and his trial was delayed.
Isolation- an eternal living death.
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Post by crown on Jul 3, 2024 14:17:45 GMT -5
I believe he’s in home confinement and his trial was delayed. Isolation- an eternal living death. No possibility for parole? I thought long and hard on that question. |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 10, 2024 10:00:24 GMT -5
1) If MoS was really so good, why has MoS2 not happened yet? It has been 11 years. 2) Why have the Reeve Only People still not been identified? It has been 11 years. 3) When is the apology to Enrique for the bullying going to be issued? Surely the bullies don't need 11 years to write an apology. Try to answer, please There must have been a LOT of Reeve only people because they stayed away from Cavill for his entire run as Superman. Every movie he was in underperformed or flopped. When people begged for him to come back and they got it in Black Adam the movie bombed. Despite Johnson calling him the greatest Superman of all time. |
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Post by crown on Jul 10, 2024 12:19:11 GMT -5
To be fair, Cavil only got a single dedicated movie as Superman kinda like Routh.
Reeve got 4 proper outings as the man of steel.
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Post by atp on Jul 10, 2024 13:32:48 GMT -5
1) If MoS was really so good, why has MoS2 not happened yet? It has been 11 years. 2) Why have the Reeve Only People still not been identified? It has been 11 years. 3) When is the apology to Enrique for the bullying going to be issued? Surely the bullies don't need 11 years to write an apology. Try to answer, please There must have been a LOT of Reeve only people because they stayed away from Cavill for his entire run as Superman. Every movie he was in underperformed or flopped. When people begged for him to come back and they got it in Black Adam the movie bombed. Despite Johnson calling him the greatest Superman of all time. That whole "Reeve Only People" thing was such a weak and stupid concept. Instead of accepting that we were grown adults with critical thinking ability, and some valid complaints about MoS, it was simpler just to dismiss it all as being unable to accept anyone but Reeve. |
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Post by crown on Jul 10, 2024 14:17:38 GMT -5
There must have been a LOT of Reeve only people because they stayed away from Cavill for his entire run as Superman. Every movie he was in underperformed or flopped. When people begged for him to come back and they got it in Black Adam the movie bombed. Despite Johnson calling him the greatest Superman of all time. That whole "Reeve Only People" thing was such a weak and stupid concept. Instead of accepting that we were grown adults with critical thinking ability, and some valid complaints about MoS, it was simpler just to dismiss it all as being unable to accept anyone but Reeve. But Reeve can be brought back with AI technology. After Superman 2025 bombs will we get another Reeve Only Superman movie? |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 10, 2024 14:58:29 GMT -5
There must have been a LOT of Reeve only people because they stayed away from Cavill for his entire run as Superman. Every movie he was in underperformed or flopped. When people begged for him to come back and they got it in Black Adam the movie bombed. Despite Johnson calling him the greatest Superman of all time. That whole "Reeve Only People" thing was such a weak and stupid concept. Instead of accepting that we were grown adults with critical thinking ability, and some valid complaints about MoS, it was simpler just to dismiss it all as being unable to accept anyone but Reeve. Agreed. The studio knew Cavill’s version of Superman was a dud after Man of Steel and the so called Reeve Only People had nothing to do with that. That’s why they stuck Batman in the next film to get more people interested. That didn’t do great either. Then the next one did even worse and it was obvious most people in general didn’t care for Cavill’s Superman. Then we got years of Dwayne Johnson begging and bullying studio executives to bring Cavill back just to prop up his own ego driven plans to build the entire DC brand around him and that was the BIGGEST bomb of all. That’s not even counting all the non DC non Superman duds Cavill’s had at the box office over the last ten years. The dudes a plank of wood. Maybe if he didn’t have a man child directing his Superman movies he may have done better but that doesn’t explain all the other stuff he’s done that gets a lukewarm response. |
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Post by crown on Jul 10, 2024 17:46:42 GMT -5
That whole "Reeve Only People" thing was such a weak and stupid concept. Instead of accepting that we were grown adults with critical thinking ability, and some valid complaints about MoS, it was simpler just to dismiss it all as being unable to accept anyone but Reeve. Agreed. The studio knew Cavill’s version of Superman was a dud after Man of Steel and the so called Reeve Only People had nothing to do with that. That’s why they stuck Batman in the next film to get more people interested. That didn’t do great either. Then the next one did even worse and it was obvious most people in general didn’t care for Cavill’s Superman. Then we got years of Dwayne Johnson begging and bullying studio executives to bring Cavill back just to prop up his own ego driven plans to build the entire DC brand around him and that was the BIGGEST bomb of all. That’s not even counting all the non DC non Superman duds Cavill’s had at the box office over the last ten years. The dudes a plank of wood. Maybe if he didn’t have a man child directing his Superman movies he may have done better but that doesn’t explain all the other stuff he’s done that gets a lukewarm response. Well Cavill was better than Brandon Routh. Routh just acted like a dime store Christopher Reeve knockoff. He didn’t even have any dialogue with Spacey because of his terrible acting ability. |
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Post by atp on Jul 11, 2024 1:12:46 GMT -5
That whole "Reeve Only People" thing was such a weak and stupid concept. Instead of accepting that we were grown adults with critical thinking ability, and some valid complaints about MoS, it was simpler just to dismiss it all as being unable to accept anyone but Reeve. Agreed. The studio knew Cavill’s version of Superman was a dud after Man of Steel and the so called Reeve Only People had nothing to do with that. That’s why they stuck Batman in the next film to get more people interested. That didn’t do great either. Then the next one did even worse and it was obvious most people in general didn’t care for Cavill’s Superman. Then we got years of Dwayne Johnson begging and bullying studio executives to bring Cavill back just to prop up his own ego driven plans to build the entire DC brand around him and that was the BIGGEST bomb of all. That’s not even counting all the non DC non Superman duds Cavill’s had at the box office over the last ten years. The dudes a plank of wood. Maybe if he didn’t have a man child directing his Superman movies he may have done better but that doesn’t explain all the other stuff he’s done that gets a lukewarm response. The Man From Uncle also bombed. But I guess that was the fault of the Vaughn Only People. |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 12, 2024 9:48:38 GMT -5
Agreed. The studio knew Cavill’s version of Superman was a dud after Man of Steel and the so called Reeve Only People had nothing to do with that. That’s why they stuck Batman in the next film to get more people interested. That didn’t do great either. Then the next one did even worse and it was obvious most people in general didn’t care for Cavill’s Superman. Then we got years of Dwayne Johnson begging and bullying studio executives to bring Cavill back just to prop up his own ego driven plans to build the entire DC brand around him and that was the BIGGEST bomb of all. That’s not even counting all the non DC non Superman duds Cavill’s had at the box office over the last ten years. The dudes a plank of wood. Maybe if he didn’t have a man child directing his Superman movies he may have done better but that doesn’t explain all the other stuff he’s done that gets a lukewarm response. The Man From Uncle also bombed. But I guess that was the fault of the Vaughn Only People. Because Cavill is a stock good looking muscle man with no personality and his costar was a bland good looking tall dude who wants to beat and eat women. Robert Vaughn and David McCallum at least had screen presence. You’d think Mathew Vaughn and Guy Ritchie would learn and stop working with him but I guess Cavill is a perfect real life representation of the action figures they had growing up. He can do everything they want, not talk back, and not have a single creative thought of his own. Just like a good little Action Man doll. |
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Post by atp on Jul 17, 2024 2:44:27 GMT -5
The Man From Uncle also bombed. But I guess that was the fault of the Vaughn Only People. Because Cavill is a stock good looking muscle man with no personality and his costar was a bland good looking tall dude who wants to beat and eat women. Robert Vaughn and David McCallum at least had screen presence. You’d think Mathew Vaughn and Guy Ritchie would learn and stop working with him but I guess Cavill is a perfect real life representation of the action figures they had growing up. He can do everything they want, not talk back, and not have a single creative thought of his own. Just like a good little Action Man doll. Cavill is essentially like an AI rendering. |
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Post by dejan on Sept 10, 2024 15:54:27 GMT -5
Because Cavill is a stock good looking muscle man with no personality and his costar was a bland good looking tall dude who wants to beat and eat women. Robert Vaughn and David McCallum at least had screen presence. You’d think Mathew Vaughn and Guy Ritchie would learn and stop working with him but I guess Cavill is a perfect real life representation of the action figures they had growing up. He can do everything they want, not talk back, and not have a single creative thought of his own. Just like a good little Action Man doll. Cavill is essentially like an AI rendering. Yup. And most of the time the actual CG rendering of Cavill was s**t too.............:  |
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Post by Metallo on Sept 10, 2024 23:01:02 GMT -5
Cavill is essentially like an AI rendering. Yup. And most of the time the actual CG rendering of Cavill was s**t too.............: 😂 To me he seems like a real life action figure and not in a good way. He has the look and directors have him doing what they want but he’s got no inner life of his own on screen. Even during his cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine he came off as incredibly flat and wooden. True it’s only a cameo but look at what Hugh Jackman did in a similarly short cameo in X-men: First Class. |
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Post by crown on Sept 10, 2024 23:42:28 GMT -5
Yup. And most of the time the actual CG rendering of Cavill was s**t too.............: 😂 To me he seems like a real life action figure and not in a good way. He has the look and directors have him doing what they want but he’s got no inner life of his own on screen. Even during his cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine he came off as incredibly flat and wooden. True it’s only a cameo but look at what Hugh Jackman did in a similarly short cameo in X-men: First Class. I always hated that shot because it drew too much attention to the lack of red trunks. Why didn’t they just use a CGI Reeve as Superman? They did it in the Flash and the CGI Reeve was way better than CGI and real life Cavill. |
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Post by atp on Sept 11, 2024 1:44:59 GMT -5
😂 To me he seems like a real life action figure and not in a good way. He has the look and directors have him doing what they want but he’s got no inner life of his own on screen. Even during his cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine he came off as incredibly flat and wooden. True it’s only a cameo but look at what Hugh Jackman did in a similarly short cameo in X-men: First Class. I always hated that shot because it drew too much attention to the lack of red trunks. Why didn’t they just use a CGI Reeve as Superman? They did it in the Flash and the CGI Reeve was way better than CGI and real life Cavill. Exactly. Mr Thau could have helped |
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Post by crown on Sept 11, 2024 6:22:57 GMT -5
I always hated that shot because it drew too much attention to the lack of red trunks. Why didn’t they just use a CGI Reeve as Superman? They did it in the Flash and the CGI Reeve was way better than CGI and real life Cavill. Exactly. Mr Thau could have helped What is Mr. Thau's address? I have written this letter that I think will do some good. Dear Mr. Thau, I hope this letter finds you well. I am writing to express my thoughts regarding the portrayal of Superman in recent films, particularly the 2013 film “Man of Steel.” As a devoted fan of the Superman franchise and a long-time admirer of Christopher Reeve’s iconic performance as the Man of Steel, I feel compelled to voice my strong opinion on this matter. It is my belief that Henry Cavill should be replaced with a CGI representation of Christopher Reeve in any future Superman films, starting with “Man of Steel.” The legacy that Reeve left behind is unparalleled; his embodiment of Superman set a standard that has yet to be matched. While I understand that Cavill has brought his own interpretation to the character, I firmly believe that the essence of Superman is best captured through Reeve’s portrayal. Furthermore, I propose that all future Superman films adopt a “Reeve-only” policy when it comes to casting the character. This would not only honor the memory and impact of Christopher Reeve but also provide fans with a consistent and beloved representation of Superman that resonates deeply with audiences worldwide. I am aware that some may consider my views extreme or even label me as a “space cadet.” However, I stand by my convictions. If Warner Bros. does not take these sentiments into account and replace Cavill with a CGI Reeve, we will have no choice but to express our dissatisfaction in more drastic terms—though I assure you it is meant metaphorically when I say we will “blow up Warner Brothers quick and easy.” Thank you for considering my perspective on this important issue within the Superman community. I look forward to your response and hope for positive changes in how our beloved hero is portrayed on screen. Sincerely, |
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Post by dejan on Sept 11, 2024 15:08:57 GMT -5
Yup. And most of the time the actual CG rendering of Cavill was s**t too.............: 😂 To me he seems like a real life action figure and not in a good way. He has the look and directors have him doing what they want but he’s got no inner life of his own on screen. Even during his cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine he came off as incredibly flat and wooden. True it’s only a cameo but look at what Hugh Jackman did in a similarly short cameo in X-men: First Class. Agree that he lacks charisma. Personally speaking, the only time I thought he hit some resonance on an emotional level with his acting, was the scene in BvS where Luthor shows him photos that Martha is being held hostage. Showed a bit of vunrability and anger contemporaneously. But was too little....and by the time of JL(theatrical version)......too late. |
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Post by Metallo on Sept 11, 2024 17:59:19 GMT -5
😂 To me he seems like a real life action figure and not in a good way. He has the look and directors have him doing what they want but he’s got no inner life of his own on screen. Even during his cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine he came off as incredibly flat and wooden. True it’s only a cameo but look at what Hugh Jackman did in a similarly short cameo in X-men: First Class. Agree that he lacks charisma. Personally speaking, the only time I thought he hit some resonance on an emotional level with his acting, was the scene in BvS where Luthor shows him photos that Martha is being held hostage. Showed a bit of vunrability and anger contemporaneously. But was too little....and by the time of JL(theatrical version)......too late. Funny enough I thought some of his best acting was in Justice League. There were a couple of times during the reshoots that Whedon actually got some personality out of him beyond angry scowl. It’s just too bad most of that work was ruined by the awful cgi slathered over Cavill’s face. Whedon couldn’t save that movie but it was the most “Superman” Cavill ever was. Beyond that I think one of his best roles was in Mission: Impossible - Fallout especially when his true allegiance was revealed and he does that turn. |
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Post by atp on Sept 12, 2024 2:51:37 GMT -5
Cavill is essentially like an AI rendering. Yup. And most of the time the actual CG rendering of Cavill was s**t too.............: I remember in 2013 the MoS bullies were raving about that particular shot. They also went wild about the fact that there was a cool shadow on the ground and a sonic boom during that flight sequence. Totally taken in by the allure of visual spectacle instead of substance. |
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Post by Metallo on Sept 12, 2024 10:42:22 GMT -5
Yup. And most of the time the actual CG rendering of Cavill was s**t too.............: I remember in 2013 the MoS bullies were raving about that particular shot. They also went wild about the fact that there was a cool shadow on the ground and a sonic boom during that flight sequence. Totally taken in by the allure of visual spectacle instead of substance. Exactly. It’s the same mindset as them raving about him in the suit and how great his physique was and even that wasn’t entirely real. Anyone with any sense could see there was also a muscle suit underneath there. MOS and Cavill are textbook examples of people being blinded by the superficial. There’s been a LOT of that going on in recent years. It’s the same reason some people want him as Bond and talk about how charismatic he is for it. He’s a block of wood. It’s his looks overriding everything else. |
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Post by dejan on Sept 12, 2024 17:04:49 GMT -5
Agree that he lacks charisma. Personally speaking, the only time I thought he hit some resonance on an emotional level with his acting, was the scene in BvS where Luthor shows him photos that Martha is being held hostage. Showed a bit of vunrability and anger contemporaneously. But was too little....and by the time of JL(theatrical version)......too late. Funny enough I thought some of his best acting was in Justice League. There were a couple of times during the reshoots that Whedon actually got some personality out of him beyond angry scowl. It’s just too bad most of that work was ruined by the awful cgi slathered over Cavill’s face. Whedon couldn’t save that movie but it was the most “Superman” Cavill ever was. Beyond that I think one of his best roles was in Mission: Impossible - Fallout especially when his true allegiance was revealed and he does that turn. Yes, that's true regarding Cavill's more cheery disposition in the JL theatrical......I have still not seen the Snyder Cut so can't comment on his performance under good ol' Zack. Have not seen MI Fall Out either...apart from a few choice clips on Ytube(like the Gent's bathroom fight sequence). lol...you mentioned that Cavill "angry scowl"! Perfectly captured in the action figure: |
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Post by dejan on Sept 12, 2024 17:39:38 GMT -5
atp and Metalllo hehe I thought the end of this rather dramatic fight sequence with Tom, perfectly encapsulates Cavill's Superman career arc: 
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Post by atp on Sept 15, 2024 9:00:52 GMT -5
I still want to know when MoS2 is coming out.
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