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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 5, 2009 10:46:51 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D
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Post by Legsy on Dec 5, 2009 10:50:06 GMT -5
It's funny because it's true!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 5, 2009 16:29:58 GMT -5
It is. What the new recut needs is a different pairing for commentaries: Donner & (or vs.) Salkind ---- and ---- Thau (vs.) Baird. ((Spengler can stay at home and sleep)) Now THOSE would be loud commentaries!  |
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Post by Jimbo on Dec 6, 2009 17:29:27 GMT -5
No no no, the best commentary would be:
Margot Kidder......playing Alexander Salkind
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 12, 2009 12:50:10 GMT -5
;D Or Manehem Golan ... |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 12, 2009 13:06:56 GMT -5
I recall in an interview w/Ilya Salkind, that when he & Lester worked on projects, that they both had input on the edits. But.... Ilya in the SII commentary also talked about being very distracted by personal probs during the production and wasn't as hands on as he normally was, so---who knows?
Lester is a good enough director to tell a basic story; it's just too bad he had to destroy a probable film classic and turn it into an okay film with some excellent parts.
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Post by ye5man on Dec 16, 2009 10:05:58 GMT -5
Finally got round to watching the 2006 DVD release of Supes III. Watched most of it with the commentary and although I find Salkind very entertaining, he tangents a little too much.
Photography and flying seriously knock SR waaaaay out of the park. Take offs and landings especially are class. 23 years prior to SR ;D
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Post by Legsy on Dec 16, 2009 10:26:50 GMT -5
Photography and flying seriously knock SR waaaaay out of the park. Take offs and landings especially are class. 23 years prior to SR ;D Sure nuff do. Routh's Superman just flew up and hovered. Reeve actually looked like he was flying. |
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Post by ye5man on Dec 16, 2009 10:50:05 GMT -5
I love how evil Supes slams in CK; bloody brilliant and totally natural.
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Post by Legsy on Dec 16, 2009 11:10:32 GMT -5
The landing by the bridge is freaking beautiful. That's just a graceful shot.
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Post by The Phantom Menace on Dec 16, 2009 15:19:58 GMT -5
I watched Superman II theatrical on the family Widescreen TV. For the first time in a while, I was able to forget the behind-the-scenes shenanigans and get lost in the story.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Dec 16, 2009 23:27:16 GMT -5
SUPERMAN II
fancut- jim's new one.
SUPERMANII
fancut - mavericks- with a WICKED COOL epilog.....
SUPERMAN RETURNS
fancut, mavericks
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 17, 2009 3:03:24 GMT -5
If Lester had kept just enough serious, (Metro battle)- and not had some of the more clunky scenes (particularly the Lois/Clark cheap scenes at the Planet by Lester), I think SII would have been far more of an easygoing movie experience for me, imo.
As is, it's watchable but I find in talking to friends that had NOT seen STM first, but SII first, far more acceptance of SII. I think it's mainly those who might have seen STM first that have issues with SII and wonder why it feels 'off' from the first one.
I wish I could just enjoy the Lester version as is, but I'm one of those that got frustrated from even the first viewing WITHOUT caring (at the time) who directed what, but only cared after such a mixed first experience of the film.
*sigh*
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 17, 2009 3:04:51 GMT -5
Agreed- the ending is really inspired on SII. There's a Maverick cut of SR??? Is there a thread I missed?  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 17, 2009 3:18:07 GMT -5
Salkind is incredibly entertaining on commentaries- even the Superboy S1 commentaries- In listening to him, he sounds upfront enough about past mistakes and gives fair amount of credit to others. Wish more producers/filmmakers were as entertaining on commentaries.
About the photography on SIII.... a little suprised-
The lighting is so bright everywhere, is there a particular sequence where you thought the lighting was particularly spectacular? I wish I liked Paynter's work on SIII more, but the combo of the art direction and the lighting felt so cheap, I was annoyed that they even made the Daily Planet set look cheap- but curious why you thought the photography stood out-
The takeoffs/landings, though- easily the best of the films, agreed.
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Post by ye5man on Dec 17, 2009 4:23:03 GMT -5
The scene where drops Gus off at Battersea at the end looked fantastic. Reeve stood out perfectly against the light grey pallete. I showed it to a mate just the other week as it goes and asked him to bear the murky, dark (and more more recent) SR in mind. He was suitably impressed.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 17, 2009 16:52:47 GMT -5
Hnh. Well, I've always said that enjoying films is a subjective experience. Thanks for sharing what you liked in it, though.
The best bit of lighting for me in that film was perhaps a few seconds when Reeve has a closeup in the cave, and is looking around towards the end.
If comparing the original films, STM/SII/SIII/SIV and Supergirl, I thought STM and Supergirl had the most beautiful cinematography of the lot. SIII and SIV (besides the $2 fx shots in SIV) I thought were a toss-up in the finished print.
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Post by ye5man on Dec 18, 2009 5:01:56 GMT -5
I thought SIV had worse photography than SR. Everything just so ridiculously flat. Lacey's apartment stuff was the nadir.
The only visuals of merit in that whole film are most (if not all) of the second Unit background NY plates which are genuinely excellent IMO
But III, I thought, was lit quite well.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Dec 28, 2009 13:07:06 GMT -5
put dharmesh down for a STM-theatrical a few weeks ago. no, thats ok dharm, i got it. no no no thats fiiiiiine. i'll just post it for you. thaaaaaats what i'm here for. |
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Post by Shane on Dec 28, 2009 16:37:50 GMT -5
i watched superman III
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Post by The Phantom Menace on Dec 28, 2009 17:25:54 GMT -5
Wasn't this supposed to have ended on Christmas? If not, I watched Superman IV on Boxing Day.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Dec 28, 2009 18:43:10 GMT -5
yeah ,boxing day counts- but this week i'll tally it up. |
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Post by Jimbo on Dec 28, 2009 18:45:06 GMT -5
I saw Superman II about 50 times (in fragments) while compiling my cut.....does that count? ;D
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Dec 28, 2009 18:54:51 GMT -5
we're going to call that a "montage" viewing.
i am confident that SII fancut are the most popular.
we'll see how next year pans out.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jan 3, 2010 16:49:13 GMT -5
ok- i will do a tally asap- ( your commodore is busy) but keep it going for 2010.  thanks- Jor (btw- SIII is my 1st superman flick of 2010 ) |
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