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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 12:21:35 GMT -5
We're just giving opinions on what we know so far. No one is writing the movie off. A lot of people don't like Snyder, so there's that, but I think most of us either like or are okay with Cavill. The cast looks strong so far. It's not all negative. It's not a group sing-a-long to Kumbaya at the campfire, either, but we're fanboys and fangirls. Goes with the territory.
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Post by belloq on Mar 21, 2011 12:24:05 GMT -5
why are so many of you already downing a movie that isnt even in the filming stages yet? frack sake guys WE ARE GETTING ANOTHER NEW SUPERMAN MOVIE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY SURPASS SUPERMAN RETURNS! too much negativity in this darn place these days!!! that's the reason. i, however, am approaching the cusp of drinking the kool aid.
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Post by atp on Mar 21, 2011 13:46:22 GMT -5
frack sake guys WE ARE GETTING ANOTHER NEW SUPERMAN MOVIE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY SURPASS SUPERMAN RETURNS! Surpassing a flop! Now there's something to aim for ;D
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 21, 2011 14:42:58 GMT -5
That latest quote from Snyder is the best thing I've heard him say. Great news. Hope...rising?
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Post by subzero on Mar 21, 2011 16:05:56 GMT -5
frack sake guys WE ARE GETTING ANOTHER NEW SUPERMAN MOVIE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY SURPASS SUPERMAN RETURNS! Surpassing a flop! Now there's something to aim for ;D it made over $391,081,192 at the box office, not really what I would call a flop.
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Post by lois on Mar 21, 2011 18:00:30 GMT -5
I myself am looking forward to the new movie and am waiting to see it on the big screen...then I'll say whether or not I like or dislike it. I really enjoyed the last Superman film and IMHO it was EXCELLENT.
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Post by The Phantom Menace on Mar 21, 2011 18:49:31 GMT -5
That latest quote from Snyder is the best thing I've heard him say. Great news. Hope...rising? Urge to kill... fading?
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 21, 2011 18:56:42 GMT -5
After the SIV fiasco and the SR controversy, Superman has nowhere to go but up.
They know it has be action oriented. They have to know.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 21, 2011 19:03:45 GMT -5
Agreed! If everyone was positive without reservation, it would be a snorefest. The plus side that I should give Snyder credit for in "Watchmen" (and "300" to be fair)--- is that he did try to make 'the greatest comic book movie ever'. It didn't succeed, but I will admit that I could see the effort. Singer similiarly gave his all for SR- and trying to keep the Donnerverse alive (sortof- the confused continuity choice still has me a little headscratching to this day- was it a compromise with the studio? Probably not, as he's said before that WB rolled out the red carpet for him creatively- would he have sorted the mild confusion with flashbacks in MOS?) but people disagree on the result. The enthusiasm from the get-go I've ever had for this character was that Donner may have started it as a job, but (with Puzo's script) made it a labor of love and passion as he went on for STM/SII. From everything we've speculated on, plus the tidbits that came out, it seems like it is an 'origin' story- in the way that 'Batman Begins' was an origin story, but found ways to dive into the main story at a good pace. I didn't consider 'Batman Begins' as an epic by itself- but together with 'The Dark Knight', I do.... and am crossing my fingers that the third Batman doesn't disappoint. Here's hoping that (Nolan/Sndyer/Goyer) they're shooting for something that feels larger than life (even if with a semi-realistic tone) -not just something that feels like a 'big tv movie' (like Xmen 3). And I don't have any issue with a superhero film being pretentious--- I sort of hope it is, to a degree..... if pretention doesn't fit in a superhero film, where DOES it belong?
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 21, 2011 20:30:44 GMT -5
Urge to kill... fading? Surprisingly, yes!
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Post by Shane on Mar 22, 2011 4:25:53 GMT -5
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Post by EvilSupes on Mar 22, 2011 4:37:22 GMT -5
Well, this is good news. I too did kinda worry about whether we'd see over-the-top visuals like in 300/watchmen/sucker punch, but it seems he understands that Superman doesn't need all of that to work. I also actually don't mind if he does go down the Batman Begins route, as maybe there's something there that can give us an exciting new angle on the whole Superman story, even if it doesn't explore all of his origin like STM.
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 22, 2011 7:24:49 GMT -5
Unlike Batman, Superman's origin has been thoroughly RANSACKED over the years. I'm bored with it.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 22, 2011 7:32:18 GMT -5
I generally agree with you, but other than on S:TAS, nobody's really EXPLOITED Krypton yet. If there's a chance we can have all of these great Krytponian tech elements in place early on to set up a whole series of movies, then I'm ok with it.
But yeah, if it's standard, Krypton explodes, then we have 20 minutes in Smallville, and then "Clark Kent meet Lois Lane" stuff, it could be a bit dull.
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 22, 2011 9:16:29 GMT -5
There has to be a way of featuring that cool Kryptonian technology without going through the whole cliche all over again.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 22, 2011 9:26:12 GMT -5
TOTALLY agree. Flashbacks of Brainiac attacking the planet early on, with General Zod & Ursa defending the planet- a la Geoff Johns' wouldn't be bad to see.
STM & SII just scratched the surface of story possibilities with the Phantom Zone ("three, only three") and other Kryptonians.
If they have to reboot it, then.... yeah, let's hope that they set this up well enough to make the series bigger and incorporate far more of the Supes' comix world than has ever been done before in film, tv, or animated series.
(As an aside, WB was forced to plan out many Harry Potter films, thinking about the actors' ages---- and as a result, they seem to have had a pretty smooth working machine of films every year (?) or so and turned out fairly decent.
Why can't we have 7 well-planned Superman films in a row with the same cast?
But given it takes YEARS to get ONE Superman film agreed upon- very wishful thinking, I know....*sigh*)
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Post by ye5man on Mar 22, 2011 11:39:42 GMT -5
I'd prefer to see flashbacks and Krypton and stuff in the sequel. The first film must firmly reestablish Supes as a decisive action icon. I don't particularly want depth with the new film either. Want to see some booty-kicking, heroic feats, magnificent presence and a few bits of tongue-in-cheek to let the audience know we're all having fun.
I want to get as far from the dreary crap in SR as possible. Let's also have a lot of brightness in the film
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 22, 2011 11:59:03 GMT -5
Totally ok with it happening flashbacks...as long as it happens!!!!
The Harry Potter model is a perfect template for what should be done with the Superman flicks. Lock these actors up and then crank 'em out. The artistic successes will mitigate some of the artistic failures. Is every Bond movie GREAT? NO! But, the overall quality of the franchise is what makes it endure, and it took them nearly fifty years to get to the "reboot".
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 22, 2011 13:35:20 GMT -5
Yeah, but Bond never had an origin movie. Superman already has.
Just thinking of focusing on Supermans upbringing again makes me want to puke.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 22, 2011 13:43:04 GMT -5
Once again, could not agree more, Val!
The one advantage (I assume, I could be wrong) about the successful "Harry Potter" and even the "Twilight" series is that the author in both cases seem to have a degree of say-so in the adaptation of their books.
Or if not, SOMEONE is doing enough quality control to make sure that the books are faithful enough to the source material so as not to piss off fans.
With Superman? Dunno. WB should definitely get credit for (seemingly) trusting Nolan to follow his muse.
Sony should get blame for interfering with Raimi--- rather than just letting the guy who made the movies a success follow his gut.
20th Century seems to be doing the smart thing (along with the producers) in getting Singer as creative collaborator/overseer of the Xmen again, if he's not necessarily directing them anymore.
Hard to say what's going to happen once this film comes out. Will WB be control freaks if it's a $391 box office million dollar disappointment?
Or will WB tell Snyder to do as he pleases with a sequel, if they're happy enough with the dollars?
Well..... eventually we'll find out, but I definitely am more attracted to the idea of a general outline (like Nolan/Goyer reportedly had) for a character to grow and evolve over a series of movies.
(Or the universe of that character, like Star Trek did for awhile)
It's all a waiting game......*sigh*
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Mar 22, 2011 14:04:49 GMT -5
LatinoReview.com also spoke with director Zack Snyder at his recent press day for his new film "Sucker Punch" and asked him a series of questions about his Superman movie. Here are a few excerpts from the interview...
Is Viggo Mortensen still a person of interest in Superman now that he's locked into Snow White? Zack Snyder: Yeah Viggo is not going to be in the movie let's say that right now. I can clear that up.
Can you elaborate where you are at with the film?
Zack Snyder: Yeah, we're just in pre-production right now, we're working every day trying to get it together and it's looking awesome and we are going to probably start shooting at the end of the summer.
io9.com recently interviewed Zack Snyder and asked him about his up-coming Superman movie, whether he'd take a stylized approach, and about his decision to cast Kevin Costner and Diane Lane as Jonathan and Martha Kent.
I think the thing you realize when you look at Diane and Kevin, in our decision to cast them so far, you sort of get a sense of how tonally we're looking at the movie, and what you realize is that those guys are serious actors, and we're taking this seriously in terms of the tone of having those guys. You're talking about having a situation where whatever the action is or whatever the drama of the movie is, our first priority is to make sure it's rendered in the most realistic way we can get at.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Mar 22, 2011 14:07:42 GMT -5
who said it should be "realisitc" ? i want it to be awesome, awesome and awesome. didn't you get the memo?
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Post by Jimbo on Mar 22, 2011 14:08:02 GMT -5
Ah, no Viggo. Booo.
Hey MAV, you should try out for the part. ;D
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Post by Jimbo on Mar 22, 2011 14:09:51 GMT -5
our first priority is to make sure it's rendered in the most realistic way we can get at [/i].[/quote] I'm sorry, but when I think of Superman and the word "rendered", I get horrible flashbacks of waxy CGI Brandon Routh. Please no Superman "rendering". Please. Use a different word. ;D
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 22, 2011 14:17:39 GMT -5
who said it should be "realisitc" ? i want it to be awesome, awesome and awesome. didn't you get the memo? But realistic could also mean verisimilitude.
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