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Post by crown on Feb 14, 2015 0:09:52 GMT -5
I can't believe no one has ever noticed this before but there is one single gapping plot hole in Superman II that not a single viewer has ever called attention to.
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At the diner Lois orders a coke instead of fresh OJ!
Makes no sense and to this day I can't understand why this is in the movie.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 15, 2015 2:15:59 GMT -5
I can't believe no one has ever noticed this before but there is one single gapping plot hole in Superman II that not a single viewer has ever called attention to. Ready? At the diner Lois orders a coke instead of fresh OJ! Makes no sense and to this day I can't understand why this is in the movie. Well.... OJ- came from Lester's rewrites- and resulted in the OJ references. Donner's diner scene has Lois ordering coke and later on, pizza. But- yeah, good catch on another bit of Lester not really paying good attention to continuity...
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Post by crown on Feb 16, 2015 21:00:53 GMT -5
Well Lester could have easily dubbed over Lois saying coke and made her say orange juice.
Another really weird thing is that Lois seemingly wants a hot dog when they pull up to the joint but then proceeds to order a hamburger....
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 17, 2015 2:06:55 GMT -5
Well Lester could have easily dubbed over Lois saying coke and made her say orange juice. Another really weird thing is that Lois seemingly wants a hot dog when they pull up to the joint but then proceeds to order a hamburger....
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Post by crown on Feb 18, 2015 2:07:03 GMT -5
Well as great as the diner scene was part of me wishes Clark and Lois had reached Metropolis before Clark realized he had to go back.
We at least needed more scenes with Clark and Lois after the de-power. I imagine Donner would have shot a lot more had he returned.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 18, 2015 3:29:51 GMT -5
Well as great as the diner scene was part of me wishes Clark and Lois had reached Metropolis before Clark realized he had to go back. We at least needed more scenes with Clark and Lois after the de-power. I imagine Donner would have shot a lot more had he returned. If Clark and Lois reached Metropolis first--- that's a REAAALLLY long walk back to the Fortress. (Unless Lois lets him use the car this time)
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Post by crown on Feb 18, 2015 15:46:21 GMT -5
Why did Clark walk back? There obviously was a road when he was unceremoniously passed by the truck. You'd think Lois would sell her billion dollar apartment to rent Clark a gulf stream jet for the day too.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 1, 2015 1:40:17 GMT -5
Why did Clark walk back? There obviously was a road when he was unceremoniously passed by the truck. You'd think Lois would sell her billion dollar apartment to rent Clark a gulf stream jet for the day too. If Donner came back- I think with his perfectionism he would have shot SOME bit to explain why he's walking back. I imagine Lois took a cab back to Metropolis and that Clark's car died (although it will forever be a mystery where this car came from in the first place--- it's definitely intentionally glossed over in the Mank script on how they got to the FOS in the first place and how they got out in a car, instead of the shot where Supes flies Lois to the FOS). Aside: is the bully the one that passes him up in the truck? I assumed it was, but if so, it's odd that Clark would expect any better treatment from the jerk if so....
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Post by crown on Mar 3, 2015 4:15:36 GMT -5
I don't think the trucker who passed him was the bully... but it would be funny if it was!! Talk about adding insult to injury Rocky kicks the living snot out of Clark and then passes his booty on the road to boot!
Talk about an awkward conversation in the truck if "Rocky" had opted to pick Clark up..... I can imagine Rocky nervously smoking a cigarette in a corner of the fortress while Clark is talking to Jor-El praying he isn't killed when Clark gets his powers back.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 3, 2015 14:14:39 GMT -5
Given Lester's attraction to slapstick, surprised he didn't reshoot it with Rocky tossing a pie into Clark's face as he drove by...
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Post by crown on Mar 3, 2015 22:50:25 GMT -5
I actually wish the diner fight was more brutal to make Superman's triumphant return all the more sweet.
I'm not saying Rocky should have dragged Clark back to the bathroom, forced him the bite the urine encrusted toilet bowl rim and curb stomp him... but he should have hit Clark bad a bunch more times after Clark got in a hit or two.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 4, 2015 2:13:21 GMT -5
I actually wish the diner fight was more brutal to make Superman's triumphant return all the more sweet. I'm not saying Rocky should have dragged Clark back to the bathroom, forced him the bite the urine encrusted toilet bowl rim and curb stomp him... but he should have hit Clark bad a bunch more times after Clark got in a hit or two. I'd read that originally it was a couple of guys- that would have made the attack more brutal. Still- if Donner/Mank returned, then I think the Metro battle would have more than made up for it...
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Post by crown on Mar 6, 2015 23:00:45 GMT -5
Well maybe the diner rematch should have been comical to make the first diner beating seem more brutal by comparison.
Clark could come into the diner to get Lois her pizza and see Rocky scarfing down food. Clark orders the pizza and throws the pie at Rocky covering him with pizza "Gee that's a nice shirt Rocky.... did it come with extra cheese?" Clark quips as he leaves the diner in triumph.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 8, 2015 23:58:10 GMT -5
Well maybe the diner rematch should have been comical to make the first diner beating seem more brutal by comparison. Clark could come into the diner to get Lois her pizza and see Rocky scarfing down food. Clark orders the pizza and throws the pie at Rocky covering him with pizza "Gee that's a nice shirt Rocky.... did it come with extra cheese?" Clark quips as he leaves the diner in triumph. You know.... now that you mention it- it really IS weird that the RDC chose to add the bit where Clark offers to buy pizza, but then decides to delete the bit that motivates him to go back to the diner. Does Lois ever get her pizza?
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Post by crown on Mar 9, 2015 2:00:01 GMT -5
Well first of all I highly doubt Don's Diner serves pizza... so it made no sense for Clark to go there. Unless he went to a pizza joint next door and decided to quickly drop into Don's diner to bust some heads for old time sake.
So yes, Lois did in fact get her pizza. Of course she didn't actually tell Clark what she wanted on the pizza...
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 9, 2015 18:20:39 GMT -5
Well first of all I highly doubt Don's Diner serves pizza... so it made no sense for Clark to go there. Unless he went to a pizza joint next door and decided to quickly drop into Don's diner to bust some heads for old time sake. So yes, Lois did in fact get her pizza. Of course she didn't actually tell Clark what she wanted on the pizza... Unless the new improved Clark also threatens the shopowners of Don's Diner if they don't have pizza in an extended cut...
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Post by crown on Mar 14, 2015 23:48:49 GMT -5
OMG I just thought of the coolest line Clark should have said.
Instead of saying "I've been working out." he should have told Don "I'll take that Pizza to go!" as he triumphantly walks out of the diner!
The next shot is Superman flying the pizza (not the flag) to the White House.
"Good afternoon Mr. President.... care for a slice?"
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 16, 2015 11:43:52 GMT -5
OMG I just thought of the coolest line Clark should have said. Instead of saying "I've been working out." he should have told Don "I'll take that Pizza to go!" as he triumphantly walks out of the diner! The next shot is Superman flying the pizza (not the flag) to the White House. "Good afternoon Mr. President.... care for a slice?" Would have been perfect for more product placement, true....
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Post by crown on Mar 17, 2015 6:48:55 GMT -5
Better than the product placement Canon nearly put into SIV:
I'd tell you who I'D write a letter to that WOULD do some good!
Who Superman?
No Santa Claus!
Santa Claus the subject of our newest exhibit..
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 17, 2015 10:32:41 GMT -5
Better than the product placement Canon nearly put into SIV: I'd tell you who I'D write a letter to that WOULD do some good! Who Superman? No Santa Claus! Santa Claus the subject of our newest exhibit.. The timing is off, though- if it done around the time of Superman III- they could then have had a crossover with the Salkind's Santa Claus film....
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