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Post by crown on Jul 14, 2016 1:58:12 GMT -5
So Clark asks Rocky if he cared to step outside..... if Rocky actually followed Clark outside what was Clark going to do... throw a punch!?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 31, 2016 18:29:17 GMT -5
So Clark asks Rocky if he cared to step outside..... if Rocky actually followed Clark outside what was Clark going to do... throw a punch!? Good point. It did seem a little odd that Supes/Clark would go right to (implied) violence. Maybe he would have given him a lecture just like when a mugger threatened Lois?
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Post by crown on Aug 1, 2016 23:42:01 GMT -5
It would been funny if Clark and Rocky went outside and then we just heard a gunshot.
Then Clark waltzes back in, spins a gun robocop-style, and sits down.
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Post by EnriqueH on Aug 9, 2016 23:36:09 GMT -5
I thought "stepping outside" was an old school way of challenging someone to a fight?
In fact, in Bruce Lee's "Way of the Dragon", a waiter in that film tells a thug, "You! You wanna step outside?"
Rocky was disrespecting Lois and, who knows, maybe Clark felt the need to "prove himself" now that he no longe had powers. There's a subplot for you, especially had Reeve been playing Superman in a TV series instead of a movie. (Hollywood, I want story credit for that one!)
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 10, 2016 2:46:13 GMT -5
I thought "stepping outside" was an old school way of challenging someone to a fight? In fact, in Bruce Lee's "Way of the Dragon", a waiter in that film tells a thug, "You! You wanna step outside?" Rocky was disrespecting Lois and, who knows, maybe Clark felt the need to "prove himself" now that he no longe had powers. There's a subplot for you, especially had Reeve been playing Superman in a TV series instead of a movie. (Hollywood, I want story credit for that one!) I'd read somewhere that originally it was a couple of guys that rough up Clark- definitely a lot darker. Donner had to have wrangled with how far to take that sequence.... Actually, it's interesting how much Donner really juggled so many different tones and elements and still make it work with STM and SII. Balancing the story between family entertainment and something pretty dark makes/made STM/SII incredibly re-watchable and timeless. (Though I think the same can be said for the best of the Speilberg and Star Wars films) Even though the metro battle suffers the most tone-wise by Lester's (mis)direction, I'm glad that at least in the RDC we got a few moments here and there what we would have gotten in the last act with Supes and the criminals had Donner stayed on.
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Post by crown on Aug 13, 2016 17:14:03 GMT -5
The original script had Rocky dragging Clark into the bathroom... curb-stomping him on the toilet seat and then stuffing him into a urinal.
Donner and Mank felt that this scene wouldn't fit in their 'fairy tale come to life' take on Superman so they toned it down.
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