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Post by Metallo on Jul 21, 2016 11:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Jan 25, 2017 11:41:57 GMT -5
Don't see how I missed this screenrant.com/superman-movie-jimmy-olsen-justice-league/It wouldn't surprise me. McClure is always down for this stuff, they've been invoking the Reeve era a lot after the DC films shakeup (even for Wonder Woman) and they know they could use some of that eras magic and optimism. If Cavill ends up a more optimistic Superman McClure could represent a small signal of that in some symbolic way. Geoff Johns got his first break working for Donner so there is a connection there. He could also mean some other DC movie. Maybe Animated.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 25, 2017 12:57:47 GMT -5
Don't see how I missed this screenrant.com/superman-movie-jimmy-olsen-justice-league/It wouldn't surprise me. McClure is always down for this stuff, they've been invoking the Reeve era a lot after the DC films shakeup (even for Wonder Woman) and they know they could use some of that eras magic and optimism. If Cavill ends up a more optimistic Superman McClure could represent a small signal of that in some symbolic way. Geoff Johns got his first break working for Donner so there is a connection there. He could also mean some other DC movie. Maybe Animated. We could definitely use more optimism, that's for sure. Definitely McClure' presence can help... but, oddly, I look to the MCU for more 'feel goods' in movies now. The Marvel movies can't come fast enough. At first, I was bothered that the Marvel movies were too lightweight, but with the Netflix material being so dark, maybe we could use more light on the bigscreen.
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Post by Metallo on Jan 25, 2017 16:17:28 GMT -5
The movies have varying levels of darkness but they never get as dark as the DCEU has been. Darkness isn't really the DCEUs problem it's that it's endlessly bland bleak and depressing. The dark knight was dark but there was also a sense of optimism and thrilling adventure.
I agree that I think the Netflix shows and even AOS balance out the movies. Dark stuff happens on all the shows that we usually don't see on the movies. Especially Jessica Jones.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 26, 2017 0:01:53 GMT -5
The movies have varying levels of darkness but they never get as dark as the DCEU has been. Darkness isn't really the DCEUs problem it's that it's endlessly bland bleak and depressing. The dark knight was dark but there was also a sense of optimism and thrilling adventure. I agree that I think the Netflix shows and even AOS balance out the movies. Dark stuff happens on all the shows that we usually don't see on the movies. Especially Jessica Jones. True... I don't mind darkness if it's to ultimately show how it's defeated or overcome in superhero films... but in too many non-NOlan DC superhero films, it's just wallowing in darkness with superficial sense of hope or humanity peeking through in the films. I don't expect JLA to be much of an improvement - but very similar to Watchmen. Probably watchable, but hard to embrace.
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Post by Metallo on Jan 26, 2017 13:12:43 GMT -5
I think Justice League will try to be a lot more fun tonally if not visually. That's the first mistake. A bunch of jokes while the images are all washed out and desaturated like a depressed persons pov. Not sure if that'll match. Problem is Snyder is tone deaf...cinematically speaking. I think the humor is going to come off as awful because he doesn't get what's fun or funny in these kinds of movies. Humor isn't his style. The jokes in MOS and BVS were forced and awkward.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 27, 2017 14:30:41 GMT -5
I think Justice League will try to be a lot more fun tonally if not visually. That's the first mistake. A bunch of jokes while the images are all washed out and desaturated like a depressed persons pov. Not sure if that'll match. Problem is Snyder is tone deaf...cinematically speaking. I think the humor is going to come off as awful because he doesn't get what's fun or funny in these kinds of movies. Humor isn't his style. The jokes in MOS and BVS were forced and awkward. The 'mtv' Snyder that put out beautiful images in '300' I wouldn't have minded for cinematographer for JLA. The 'I'm way too cool and serious- all must be desaturated' Synder I wouldn't have as cinematographer- let alone as director.... though I must say that I did find BvS much more watchable than MOS- could it have been Affleck's influence? Hard to know.
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Post by Metallo on Jan 27, 2017 14:38:00 GMT -5
The Batman portions were better than the Superman portions. Snyder is a better fit with Batman the same way Burton was. They both tried on Superman and it was mistake after mistake. Affleck made it better because I'm sure he was reworking what they gave him to some degree. Like you said Snyder is good at visuals but stinks at story, characters, etc. His is a ten year olds idea of what dark dramatic and mature are.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 30, 2017 1:07:21 GMT -5
The Batman portions were better than the Superman portions. Snyder is a better fit with Batman the same way Burton was. They both tried on Superman and it was mistake after mistake. Affleck made it better because I'm sure he was reworking what they gave him to some degree. Like you said Snyder is good at visuals but stinks at story, characters, etc. His is a ten year olds idea of what dark dramatic and mature are. I might have said it before.... if you could have Snyder as cinematographer/action choreographer, Singer or Nolan as director, you'd have a great team.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 5, 2017 9:27:00 GMT -5
Watched Powerless Thursday. Needless to say I wasn't expecting much but I was still disappointed. They had Adam West do the opening voice over and that was unexpected and cool. I guess Bruce Wayne is only going to appear via text message the way Clark Kent did on Supergirls first season. Marc McClure played Vanessa Hudgens dad and I've read that it's not just a one time thing but recurring. There were a ton of fun Easter eggs but the show just isn't funny imo. None of the jokes landed and it relies far too much to the DC comics references for its humor and entertainment value. It's NBC just blatantly and lazily trying to benefit from the superhero movie and tv boom. screenrant.com/powerless-dc-easter-eggs/
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 5, 2017 20:19:43 GMT -5
Watched Powerless Thursday. Needless to say I wasn't expecting much but I was still disappointed. They had Adam West do the opening voice over and that was unexpected and cool. I guess Bruce Wayne is only going to appear via text message the way Clark Kent did on Supergirls first season. Marc McClure played Vanessa Hudgens dad and I've read that it's not just a one time thing but recurring. There were a ton of fun Easter eggs but the show just isn't funny imo. None of the jokes landed and it relies far too much to the DC comics references for its humor and entertainment value. It's NBC just blatantly and lazily trying to benefit from the superhero movie and tv boom. screenrant.com/powerless-dc-easter-eggs/It's getting HORRIBLE reviews. It just sounded like a really tough thing to pull off. The Marvel movies are smart to have a sense of humor built into their formula, so trying to make a comedy out of something that's already good at balancing believability and humor seems ill-conceived... and it sounds like it's really ill-executed as well.
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Post by Metallo on Oct 23, 2017 15:12:03 GMT -5
Kinda spoilerish so if you don't want to know what he's doing don't watch but McClures at the 15 second mark.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 23, 2017 16:46:53 GMT -5
Kinda spoilerish so if you don't want to know what he's doing don't watch but McClures at the 15 second mark. Glad he's not killed off- wonder if this is Whedon's doing?
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Post by Metallo on Oct 23, 2017 19:12:30 GMT -5
That's a good question. For some reason I want to give Snyder credit. Was this scene in the early trailer/sizzle reel from last year? Seems like I rmember seeing part of it somewhere before.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 24, 2017 0:37:34 GMT -5
That's a good question. For some reason I want to give Snyder credit. Was this scene in the early trailer/sizzle reel from last year? Seems like I rmember seeing part of it somewhere before. I don't recall it being there- but if Snyder thought that killing off Jimmy was 'fun', then it's a lot of nerve to ask the actor who played him in previous films to show up...
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Post by Metallo on Oct 24, 2017 7:50:24 GMT -5
I don't think Snyder thinks like that. I doubt he even saw the big deal in offing Jimmy like that. I just don't believe he thinks certain things through. That's been the biggest problem with his films.
After thinking about it I'm more sure Snyder at least hired McClure. McClure was hinting he was in justice league last year before the reshoots. Maybe Whedon reshot his stuff or changed some things around but it looks like we have Snyder to thank for making it happen.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 19, 2018 13:14:31 GMT -5
I thought he got cut out. McClure was the corrections officer at the prison and Bruce Wayne’s inside man who tipped him off about Barry. Cant believe I didn’t notice on first viewing. Whedon must have reshot this bit to keep McClure in since we know Snyder shot the scene with him as a cop. Hard to believe he’s the same character working corrections and as a street cop.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 29, 2018 19:39:05 GMT -5
I thought he got cut out. McClure was the corrections officer at the prison and Bruce Wayne’s inside man who tipped him off about Barry. Cant believe I didn’t notice on first viewing. Whedon must have reshot this bit to keep McClure in since we know Snyder shot the scene with him as a cop. Hard to believe he’s the same character working corrections and as a street cop. I'm surprised we didn't get more deleted material on the blu ray, including the original McClure cameo. I do wonder if sales are encouraging enough for WB to go at another JL blu ray or not....
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Post by Metallo on Mar 29, 2018 21:53:51 GMT -5
Apparently it’s been selling well at least by the current standards. WB has to make their money back somehow. At some point I think we will see another release.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 6, 2018 13:11:26 GMT -5
Apparently it’s been selling well at least by the current standards. WB has to make their money back somehow. At some point I think we will see another release. In rewatching the movie, the parts that are flat really go to CGI Steppenwolf with his 'bugs' and the not-quite compelling Cyborg story. Maybe if there another half hour, there could be a chance to add more character bits to give more life into the story. The movie is good, but for the budget and the opportunity, it was no classic- and it should have been. Having the TWO Avengers movies come first, meant (imo) that JL had to be much better than both of those films.... but I wonder if the majority of the budget came from the CGI in JL that wasn't even pleasant to look at, to be honest. The best part for me still is the part of Superman returning and battling the other JL members... but that's only one scene.
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Post by Metallo on Apr 6, 2018 19:44:13 GMT -5
Yeah i think that’s most people’s favorite bit. The film has nice moments sprinkled throughout but as a whole it doesn’t work. JL doesn’t feel big. Doesn’t feel like an event. Even if the whole behind the scenes mess hadn't happened it doesn’t feel earned because it wasn’t built up. I didn’t care when Superman died in BvS and nobody thought he was going to stay dead. The cast looks like they either have nothing to work with (Momoa, Miller) or are just tired of all the drama (Cavill, Affleck). Affleck is really phoning it in sometimes. I think BvSs reception really crushed a lot of his will to do this. Cavills not going anywhere but his character is just all over the place. Superman’s an afterthought in this universe. JL is a rehash, an apology, a mess, and anything but the great film it should have been. I enjoyed it more than BvS but BvS was at least a more ambitious failure and more of an event. The dceu is tainted at this point and nothing’s going to fix that. Time to take off and nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 7, 2018 1:44:54 GMT -5
Yeah i think that’s most people’s favorite bit. The film has nice moments sprinkled throughout but as a whole it doesn’t work. JL doesn’t feel big. Doesn’t feel like an event. Even if the whole behind the scenes mess hadn't happened it doesn’t feel earned because it wasn’t built up. I didn’t care when Superman died in BvS and nobody thought he was going to stay dead. The cast looks like they either have nothing to work with (Momoa, Miller) or are just tired of all the drama (Cavill, Affleck). Affleck is really phoning it in sometimes. I think BvSs reception really crushed a lot of his will to do this. Cavills not going anywhere but his character is just all over the place. Superman’s an afterthought in this universe. JL is a rehash, an apology, a mess, and anything but the great film it should have been. I enjoyed it more than BvS but BvS was at least a more ambitious failure and more of an event. The dceu is tainted at this point and nothing’s going to fix that. Time to take off and nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure. The flip side to the MCU being such a giant success I think is that it looks like the studios want to make a superhero movie factory more than they care about making any single character special enough to last on its own. Quantity over quality- but then again.... at least it's better than constantly having each superhero property land in 'development heck' for decades. Sort of....
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Post by Metallo on Apr 7, 2018 10:15:37 GMT -5
It’s so frustrating because they don’t understand why the mcu is so successful. They all think it’s because of the shared universe and the interconnectivity. Marvel didn’t announce a six film slate and shared universe in 2006. They just said maybe. The reason the mcu is working is because they got people interested and curious in what they were doing from the start with one film and they went step by step and it grew from there. They didn’t try to make five steps at once like DC or universals monster universe.
When a studio says they’re making a six film franchise before the first ones even out I think most people just roll their eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 18:01:48 GMT -5
McClure seems like a nice enough guy.
I'm from a northern, midwestern state. A friend of mine wanted to take a roadtrip a few years back, and I suggested we make the Superman fest in Metropolis, IL our final stop. And so we went.
We waited in line to get a photo with McClure. He took a look at us (I think we were dressed a little nicer than many in town) and asked "What are you guys doing here?"
I responded "We're here for the Superman fest!" followed by him asking "No, really?" We talked a bit about our roadtrip, and he mugged a bit for a photo.
We got in line for Jerry Lawlor, the wrestler, soon after, and soon as he saw us, he said "I can tell you're not from around here, what on earth are you doing here?"
Not sure if I should be self-conscious that I look out of place in Metropolis...
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Post by Metallo on Apr 8, 2018 18:36:43 GMT -5
Lawler is a big Superman fan and even did a bit in Memphis once in a Superman suit with Adam West wearing a bat cowl. I’m always happy to see McClure return to the Superman fold. I know he attended one Superman celebration and appeared alongside Michael Landes which was pretty cool.
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