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Post by dejan on Aug 19, 2016 4:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Aug 19, 2016 12:12:54 GMT -5
Thanks man. I really enjoyed this interview. Donners still pretty sharp for a guy his age. He needs to help remembering a few things but his advice on filmmaking is great. You just knew superman was gonna come up. I wish he'd talked more about his work on Twilight Zone with William Shatner.
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Post by dejan on Aug 19, 2016 12:26:07 GMT -5
Thanks man. I really enjoyed this interview. Donners still pretty sharp for a guy his age. He needs to help remembering a few things but his advice on filmmaking is great. You just knew superman was gonna come up. I wish he'd talked more about his work on Twilight Zone with William Shatner. No problem Yeah...it's great to see he is still in good shape. I have to admit...I don't blame him for forgetting Thau's name.
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Post by Metallo on Aug 19, 2016 14:30:20 GMT -5
He tries to avoid saying anything bad about MOS. Reminds me of Nicolas Meyer doing the same thing with Star Trek 09. You could tell they weren't fans of the reboots. I LOLed.
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Post by dejan on Aug 19, 2016 15:50:12 GMT -5
He tries to avoid saying anything bad about MOS. Reminds me of Nicolas Meyer doing the same thing with Star Trek 09. You could tell they weren't fans of the reboots. I LOLed. You ain't wrong there brother: As far as I go, in general, when I made (Superman), it was a different time, it was a different respect. I made a comic-book. Since then, it's become... like the Superman thing, it's become too dark and too evil. Not for me, not my bag. I like to come out a movie feeling happy and good and laughing and, y'know, thinking life's good and it goes on and there's a reason to hang around. Some of these films are so bleak and depressing and that's not where our heroes were. That's what Lauren said. Her movies, there's always an uplifting end to them. It's not my bag.entertainment.ie/cinema/news/In-Conversation-With-Richard-Donner-amp-Lauren-Shuler-Donner/379255.htm
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Post by Metallo on Aug 19, 2016 16:02:02 GMT -5
It's why Marvel is ruling DC right now. I think Geoff Johns realizes that. Snyder and his enabling wife have really taken Superman and co off the beaten path while trying to feed audiences a line of bullsh!t about how they aren't making dark bleak movies but relatable ones. To me DC was always the company with the optimistic heroes and Marvel was the one with the angsty tortured heroes. When DC tries to out angst Marvel there's a problem. Not every DC movie should copy Dark Knight but there clearly what they're doing. Besides The Dark Knight trilogy WB has misfired with almost every DC comics movie of the last 20 years. The execs there don't get it. They've been chasing trends instead of starting them.
The Snyder experiment has been a failure and it's time for WB to really do something about it.
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Post by dejan on Aug 21, 2016 15:01:22 GMT -5
It's why Marvel is ruling DC right now. I think Geoff Johns realizes that. Snyder and his enabling wife have really taken Superman and co off the beaten path while trying to feed audiences a line of bullsh!t about how they aren't making dark bleak movies but relatable ones. To me DC was always the company with the optimistic heroes and Marvel was the one with the angsty tortured heroes. When DC tries to out angst Marvel there's a problem. Not every DC movie should copy Dark Knight but there clearly what they're doing. Besides The Dark Knight trilogy WB has misfired with almost every DC comics movie of the last 20 years. The execs there don't get it. They've been chasing trends instead of starting them. The Snyder experiment has been a failure and it's time for WB to really do something about it. Well said as always metallo Starting trends is too risky......no guaranteed $$$$....but potential artistic integrity Chasing trends on the other hand.....guaranteed $$$$(at least most of the time)........but no artistic integrity
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 21, 2016 21:41:47 GMT -5
It's why Marvel is ruling DC right now. I think Geoff Johns realizes that. Snyder and his enabling wife have really taken Superman and co off the beaten path while trying to feed audiences a line of bullsh!t about how they aren't making dark bleak movies but relatable ones. To me DC was always the company with the optimistic heroes and Marvel was the one with the angsty tortured heroes. When DC tries to out angst Marvel there's a problem. Not every DC movie should copy Dark Knight but there clearly what they're doing. Besides The Dark Knight trilogy WB has misfired with almost every DC comics movie of the last 20 years. The execs there don't get it. They've been chasing trends instead of starting them. The Snyder experiment has been a failure and it's time for WB to really do something about it. Well said as always metallo Starting trends is too risky......no guaranteed $$$$....but potential artistic integrity Chasing trends on the other hand.....guaranteed $$$$(at least most of the time)........but no artistic integrity Well said, dejan!
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Post by Metallo on Aug 27, 2016 17:04:32 GMT -5
Yup. The problem with chasing trends is you also have to understand them and how to make it work for you. WB is having...trouble.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 27, 2016 19:03:35 GMT -5
Yup. The problem with chasing trends is you also have to understand them and how to make it work for you. WB is having...trouble. I do give WB credit for letting Singer have (pretty much) free reign for SR- makes me wonder now if they greenlit SR 2, how the whole 'second wave' would have developed from there. Most likely: #1: No X-men prequels under Singer .... unless Vaughn was going to do First Class anyways with a similar script with or without Singer's input. #2: No Snyderverse. No Snyder MOS. #3: Would BvS have been a third Routh/Singer film, but with Bale vs. Routh? #4: Would everything have been under Singer's guidance rather than Snyder's- i.e.- casting of Wonder Woman? In any case- after seeing X-men Apocalypse, while I liked a lot of parts, I wonder if a rushed SR 2 would have also been similarly disappointing. Ah well. On another note- I wonder if Donner would ever consider one more superhero film?
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Post by Metallo on Aug 27, 2016 21:38:56 GMT -5
I seem to remember him saying he wasnt interested. He had offers.
The funny thing is you just know one of the big reasons WB wanted Singer was the sucess of his X-men films.
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Post by crown on Aug 27, 2016 21:41:52 GMT -5
Donner even said he turned down other superhero movies partially because he wasn't sure if he could do them as well as Superman.
Donner was uniquely qualified for Superman because he really believed in the legend like a kid would.
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