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Post by ShogunLogan on Jan 9, 2013 16:48:45 GMT -5
I had heard the sequel would be greenlighted once SR hit $400M WW...it eventually did but....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 22:56:27 GMT -5
Just for the record.... ...an "R" rated movie about a foul-mouthed, pot-smoking teddy bear made $100 MILLION MORE WORLDWIDE than the most recognizable superhero of all time. Audiences flocked once they heard there was an extended Flash Gordon cameo.
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Post by Shane on Jan 20, 2013 3:49:21 GMT -5
was talking to a friend of mine today who works down at fox studios here in sydney he tells me the new krypton set is still in one of the sound stages down there
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Post by atp on Jan 20, 2013 11:25:10 GMT -5
was talking to a friend of mine today who works down at fox studios here in sydney he tells me the new krypton set is still in one of the sound stages down there I heard they are keeping it for the sequel.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 20, 2013 11:32:20 GMT -5
Given how much was spent on some of the sets, I wonder if they've decided to keep any and modify them for other Superman (or any other fantasy) films- worked (more or less) for Star Trek 2....
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Post by Shane on Jan 20, 2013 14:49:31 GMT -5
Given how much was spent on some of the sets, I wonder if they've decided to keep any and modify them for other Superman (or any other fantasy) films- worked (more or less) for Star Trek 2.... doubt it he told there hasn't been a real big movie made down there since wolverine in 2009 he has a really easy job so it seems down there poor bloke is stuck in 2005 still everytime i see him he always talks to me about SR and all the people that worked on it down there
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 20, 2013 15:43:16 GMT -5
That's interesting to hear- and surprising... Awhile back, I'd heard a lot of American studios were targeting Austrailia to save $$$, and just assumed that they were constantly making big productions there rather than in the US... Although- I wonder if some of the lack of production there can be attributed to how much has changed shootingwise with green screen technology being applied- well, just about everywhere in film and tv nowadays. I was suprised recently to read that '24' shot a season almost all of one of its season in greenscreen because the Los Angeles producers couldn't afford to shoot in New York! The season was pretty convincing, (I didn't know until afterwards that they didn't do any location shooting) so it just makes me wonder if greenscreen advances make it so that most things can just be shot locally rather than overseas at this point...
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Post by SupermanUF on Jan 20, 2013 16:02:47 GMT -5
I worked on two seasons of CSI:NY, and we shot all that in Los Angeles. Actually, most of the New York street stuff is actually shot at "Seinfeld Street" on the CBS Radford lot, just a small block of storefronts that they built for Seinfeld anytime you'd see the characters out on the street.
We'd just go in and change out the storefronts everytime, and sometimes we'd blow snow around and put up Christmas lights to make it look wintery.
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Post by Shane on Jan 20, 2013 16:52:20 GMT -5
That's interesting to hear- and surprising... Awhile back, I'd heard a lot of American studios were targeting Austrailia to save $$$, and just assumed that they were constantly making big productions there rather than in the US... Although- I wonder if some of the lack of production there can be attributed to how much has changed shootingwise with green screen technology being applied- well, just about everywhere in film and tv nowadays. I was suprised recently to read that '24' shot a season almost all of one of its season in greenscreen because the Los Angeles producers couldn't afford to shoot in New York! The season was pretty convincing, (I didn't know until afterwards that they didn't do any location shooting) so it just makes me wonder if greenscreen advances make it so that most things can just be shot locally rather than overseas at this point... Green Lantern was supposed to be shot at fox studios but that didn't go ahead i think the great gatsby was shot here but i dunno if it was at fox
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 21, 2013 12:33:00 GMT -5
That's interesting- I just never imagined it would cost THAT much for a tv show in the US to cost a fortune to shoot in the US! It suprised me more on that particular '24" season to see how much CGI was done- the level of detail, and all... and that it was cheaper than just going there and shooting!
I remember it was reported that union costs for everything pushed a lot of Hollywood tv shows to go shoot in Canada instead for awhile- vs. LA- (perhaps that's also the reason for building studios in Austrailia vs. building more in the US, closer to Hollywood?)
Interesting.... If there's not enough production happening, wonder if they eventually shut them down? I know that the JohnAugust podcasts talked about Hollywood really trying to scrimp in areas the last few years- (though the wrong ones in their opinion)- wonder if that's keeping a lot of big projects getting held back?
In any case, I'm just glad for the crazy success of Marvel & Avengers & TDK/TDKR---- if not, I'd probably be worried that comic adaptations were in danger of going dry again.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jan 21, 2013 17:02:54 GMT -5
I worked on two seasons of CSI:NY, and we shot all that in Los Angeles. Actually, most of the New York street stuff is actually shot at "Seinfeld Street" on the CBS Radford lot, just a small block of storefronts that they built for Seinfeld anytime you'd see the characters out on the street.We'd just go in and change out the storefronts everytime, and sometimes we'd blow snow around and put up Christmas lights to make it look wintery. that is so cool!
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Post by SupermanUF on Jun 4, 2013 23:53:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 23:59:53 GMT -5
Superman is a dick to dogs
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Post by ye5man on Jun 6, 2013 13:27:39 GMT -5
Great stuff. Reinforces the fact Singer doesn't really know these characters. The Kryptonite stuff is unforgivable. Its even more dumb than Lex's computer weaving enough material to cover NuclearMan.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 11, 2013 10:01:04 GMT -5
I was very worried that Singer would get it wrong, but I thought if anything, I thought he nailed the character stuff perfectly. Bosworth and Langella aren't perfect choices, but they worked sufficiently, I thought.
But, talking about Superman Returns is like an infinite loop of fans seeing two completely different films. There's some overlap, but the more amusing thing to me is just HOW controversial this will forever be.
I mean, there isn't nearly as much disagreement over Superman IV and III. Nobody is in love with those films enough...
Ah well...
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Post by Scissorpuppy on Jun 13, 2013 20:53:39 GMT -5
Dunno if this has been posted yet or not... 2hrs 30min in details on what Superman Returns follow-up would have been.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 14, 2013 1:44:15 GMT -5
Scissorpuppy--- WOW.... THANK YOU so much for posting this-
I didn't quite believe the treatment that was put out awhile back on the internet- but with who this guy is/was in connection to SR, and the level of detail he has/had in relaying what they were going to do, the treatment finally sounds legit.....
It syncs up with what Michael Dougherty said in the radio interview years back, but the whole bit with Jason being a host body for Brainiac actually feels a bit too creepy for me for a Superman film.... and if this is as far as Singer got and was going to go- then this REALLY feels like a corner that they couldn't get out of.
Superman killing his own son to kill Brainiac would have been too much (imo)- Superman NOT killing his own son to kill Brainiac might have felt like a copout.
Pity that Singer wasn't driven to get the story finished anyways and released as a comic, if nothing else. Still would have been curious to see how it played out, even though (if he didn't end up changing his mind)- this doesn't sound like a very appealing follow up to SR to me.
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Post by SupermanUF on Jun 14, 2013 1:47:30 GMT -5
It sounds like a bad Smallville episode.
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Post by Scissorpuppy on Jun 14, 2013 7:40:01 GMT -5
Yeah, it's still just a basic outline, but if it was handled the same way pacing wise as SR then it wouldn't have worked. Whether it was SR2 or MOS, the follow-up really needed to punch everyone in the face with Superman being SUPER. If you had to go through 1hr 45mins of "father/son/jesus" stuff to get to the fight then it just wouldn't work. It really seems like once he got the job and started working on the project Singer just didn't have the internal drive for Superman that he had for X-Men. If Singer would have been more enthusiastic perhaps the film would have gotten made, but WB probably felt Singer was the only guy who could follow-up Superman Returns and if he wasn't willing/able to bring the goods that was needed to the series, than restarting from scratch was the only option. Through all of this Routh probably feels like a "hit it and quit it" pool boy
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Post by ye5man on Jun 14, 2013 7:58:27 GMT -5
Poor old Routh - but I'd have done it for cool million too.
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Post by Scissorpuppy on Jun 14, 2013 8:25:00 GMT -5
Yeah, people seem to forgot that Routh was paid for a role. In the film industry you can't take stuff like this personally. For a million? fuck yes you can recast me. I don't care. With royalties he'll continue to make money off Superman Returns for a very long time.
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Post by Costa del Lex on Jun 14, 2013 10:00:08 GMT -5
Routh gets no love at all in this week's cover of Entertainment Weekly. Just about every other incarnation of the character is included, including Welling, who wasn't even Superman until the last 2 minutes of Smallville! However, that's more a reflection on Superman Returns than it is on Routh personally. I may hate the movie, but have no issues with Routh. I can't feel too sorry for him... as others have pointed out, he's certainly not missing any meals.
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Post by ye5man on Jun 14, 2013 10:10:02 GMT -5
Welling's not even in costume! Perhaps Routh not being included was a stipulation in order not to jog people's memories
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Post by ShogunLogan on Jun 14, 2013 10:33:58 GMT -5
Wow, that's cold.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 14, 2013 10:38:33 GMT -5
Great point...
If this really was what they were going to go with (and it feels like it, with more of the details than the Dougherty interview)- then I'm not really sure I'd be all that crazy for it, either. Turning Jason into a receptacle for Brainiac's mind and then killing off (or not) Jason, would eliminate any of the 'feel good' moments of SR - as when Supes discovers he has a son.
If I was an exec at WB and this was presented to me- then I'd also have issues with the story. It's a little too horrific for any Superman story, I would think... and I'm suprised to be the one typing this. If this was the creative holdup- then I'm oddly on WB's side.
The stuff with Brainiac improving things in the world/ the world turning against Superman is an interesting aspect, but I have a hard time seeing how they could make some of these aspects work. Also- how does that whole Brainiac/ Jason/ Richard White thing come together?
To me, if they could solve how to 'unkill' Spock in Star Trek 3 scriptwise and make it interesting, I guess there could be a way to make all this stuff work- but as the outline is, it feels problematic and the only thing that would make me give a greenlight to it (if I were a WB exec) is having trust in Singer from SR and his Xmen films- but.... you'd think that Singer himself would have wanted to try to at least finish the story somehow, in some form.
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