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Post by Jimbo on Jun 9, 2011 11:19:53 GMT -5
That's usually the fault of the engineer, making one louder than another.
It's all the same bits. It's like comparing the sound quality of a CD to a FLAC.
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Post by EvilSupes on Jun 9, 2011 15:45:09 GMT -5
That's usually the fault of the engineer, making one louder than another. It's all the same bits. It's like comparing the sound quality of a CD to a FLAC. But things do often change when they are converted in one way or another even to another lossless container or format. The PCM sound of Superman Returns is regarded generally much different from the Dolby TrueHD for example. |
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Post by DieselsDen on Jun 10, 2011 0:15:19 GMT -5
everyone needs to calm way the f*ck down. singer DID NOT- repeat - DID NOT "throw routh under the bus" can people actually ..read? are people.... literate? the reality is- singer and WB did not come to terms on SR2. the reality is- WB is moving on with a different team- for MOS. the reality is- SR was released in 2006. it happened. it's there. the reality is- singer was asked if there was to be a reboot- would he "start over"- ie: would he agree that WB should "start over"...? given the reality that SR was released in 2006, and that it was not percieved as a "success" ...should a new approach be taken? the answere is "YES". singer is not dissing cavill, he is not bashing routh, he is acknowledging that if a new superman filmis to have a chance, then a reboot is the way to go. he's never met cavill, and he likes this other kid for a young superman. ALL that singer was saying that a new series needs a new lead- nothing more. he wasn't blaming routh for any real or imagined failure of SR. and, all you piling on- remember when routh said ' i wish superman could've..y'know...punched someone (in SR)'..remember that? he said what we all were thinking. was he throwing singer under the bus? NO. honestly. there's plenty of reason for anxiety- we need not make shit up. no wonder singer's a fickle b*tch. ... the reactionary bullshit he must read on the boards....  I agree with this statement. People are way overreacting. I did not interpret Singer's statements as being critical of Brandon Routh. Is there any wonder why rabid fanboys are considered to be such a low form of life? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 10:07:36 GMT -5
I didn't get the sense Singer "threw Routh under the bus."
Besides, SR falls all on the shoulders of Singer. His concept, his story, his choice of lead actors, his final approval on design, his direction. This was his baby.
I still maintain that better choices in the editing room would have drastically improved this movie. Keeping Return to Krypton, losing the boyhood powers flashback, and ... the biggest edit ... taking out Luthor's land scheme. How 'bout this ... Luthor wanted to drown the North American continent with New Krypton just because a few years in a rough prison made him even more of a dick than he was.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jun 11, 2011 20:41:56 GMT -5
 return to krypton...
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 27, 2011 19:34:46 GMT -5
In light of this news of Green Lantern getting a sequel despite disappointing box office.... (and REALLY miserable reviews from fans and critics alike)... www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-pursue-green-lantern-205703It sheds more light back on: Did Singer screw up, or did WB screw up? I was inclined to blame WB 100% all this time--- but with this, it finally tips the scale for me thinking that maybe Singer DID have a hand in it not happening, if WB is willing to move forward, even with disappointing box office.... Oh well- I know y'all have been saying this all along, but I just didn't listen.... Doesn't explain not reusing Routh (or how they treated him), though.... |
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Post by matt on Jun 27, 2011 20:50:21 GMT -5
They are just saying that to make it sound like its a great movie. If it's good of course they will make another one. If they say they won't pursue making a sequel they admit the movie sucks, and if they don't invest money in the movie why should you. If another movie gets made,I wonder if they will use material for suits rather then expensive cgi?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 27, 2011 21:46:08 GMT -5
Well, I wonder....
Though--- I can't help but wonder--- WHY is CGI so expensive, if the tech is getting better and better? (Theoretically?)
Anyhow- It's just interesting to compare box office receipts of both SR & Green Lantern (as well as response) and see how/why one deserves a sequel over the other at WB...
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Post by MerM on Jun 27, 2011 21:53:12 GMT -5
In light of this news of Green Lantern getting a sequel despite disappointing box office.... (and REALLY miserable reviews from fans and critics alike)... www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-pursue-green-lantern-205703It sheds more light back on: Did Singer screw up, or did WB screw up? I was inclined to blame WB 100% all this time--- but with this, it finally tips the scale for me thinking that maybe Singer DID have a hand in it not happening, if WB is willing to move forward, even with disappointing box office.... Oh well- I know y'all have been saying this all along, but I just didn't listen.... Doesn't explain not reusing Routh (or how they treated him), though.... Someone in the Green Lantern thread posted an article that compared it to Tron 3... they're saying it'll happen, but it probably won't. That sounds pretty accurate, I'd be surprised if either of those came to fruition. |
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Post by matt on Jun 30, 2011 17:02:27 GMT -5
Do you think RTK opening was deleted in SR for inconsistencies? In STM it is established it takes around two and a half years to reach earth from Krypton. SR it established that Superman was gone for five years.
Superman awakes from stasis when arrives to Krypton. Since Superman was in stasis I assumed he was gone for a few years. After he explores the ruins, Superman presses the console to return to earth Superman seems to arrive back in earth in minutes. When Superman crashes in the field he is still week from the Kryptonite. It took him a long time to get there since he was in stasis but only takes minutes to get back to earth.
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Post by matt on Jun 30, 2011 17:04:38 GMT -5
The opening RTK has wonderful special effects, but doesn't make any sense when trying to figure out how long it took to get back and fourth from Krypton.
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Post by Jimbo on Jun 30, 2011 17:06:22 GMT -5
It's a round-trip though. 2.5 years there, 2.5 years back.
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Post by matt on Jun 30, 2011 17:19:03 GMT -5
When Superman arrives on earth he is to weak to walk from the Kyptonite. After he leaves Krypton he should be fine. He get's stabbed with a small piece of Kryptonite he is to weak to even swim. Then he can lift New Krypton into space with no problem. He crashes to earth goes to the hospital to take a two hour nap and then he is fine again. I don't like how one little itty bitty piece of Kryptonite can almost kill him. Then he lifts all that kryptonite into space with no problem, all of that kryptonite should have killed him instantly.
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Post by stargazer01 on Jun 30, 2011 17:44:18 GMT -5
It's a fictional character, it's not real science, so my theory is that he needed a yellow sun to make him feel better.
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Post by ye5man on Jun 30, 2011 18:26:34 GMT -5
Speaking of which, thank goodness it was late at night when he crash landed back.
MJD, all you said there is totally on the ball
Its a fictional character, but have consistency or else you'll lose audience connection
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Post by stargazer01 on Jun 30, 2011 19:10:20 GMT -5
All the Superman movies have inconsistencies, including STM.
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Post by MAVERICK on Jun 30, 2011 22:53:59 GMT -5
People can bitch about the science & inconsistencies of SR all day long, but STM had a guy reversing time by spinning the earth backwards over a girl he'd never even kissed before (Insert 1978 mode apologist excuse making).
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Post by Jimbo on Jun 30, 2011 23:13:13 GMT -5
Didn't Lex mention in STM that the missiles were 500 megatons? Yeah, the largest EVER nuclear explosion was only 100 megatons. Hilarious that the Army and Navy would not only be experimenting launching LIVE warheads over American soil, but they would do it using the most powerful bombs ever created. Don't experiments involve using dummies? Newsflash to screenwriters, no one launches nuclear warheads for tests. Also, how the heck did someone rob a museum in Addis Ababa, get the Kryptonite back to Metropolis in under 12 hours AND made a nice pendant out of it?  |
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Post by MAVERICK on Jun 30, 2011 23:33:07 GMT -5
Exactly, but it gets a pass because of nostalgia goggles while SR gets trounced upon.
Well, I'm not having it any more.
STM is just as flawed as SR. And I love them both about equally.
In fact theres alot more that I dislike in STM than I do in SR.
There. Said it. Felt damned good too.
On another note, I ran into an old friend today. Told him about meeting Brandon & all.
He reminded me that when he saw SR the first time, he immediately went back into the theater for a second viewing that night. And that he loved it & that everyone he knew loved it & that he couldn't understand all the rampant revisionist history.
I then told him what I said to Brandon. He thought it was top balls.
And it was. Because it was truth.
Long live SR.
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Post by Jimbo on Jun 30, 2011 23:47:57 GMT -5
Funny that while Donner got the bigger shaft (actually being fired before getting to finish his job), Singer got to make the movie he wanted. No producers bringing in another director to babysit you, no panic to finish the movie as quickly as possible, and no fights over the script.
But at the end of the day, Donner loves STM and talks about it all the time. Singer, on the other hand, can barely string together a sentence about it, and when he does, it's full of regret and coulda-woulda-shoulda.
Singer pretty much had a blank check, and Donner had to make STM with tons of adversity and raw deals, but they've come to treat their respective films quite differently.
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Post by MAVERICK on Jul 1, 2011 0:12:34 GMT -5
Agreed.
Singer is a fickle bitch.
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Post by Jimbo on Jul 1, 2011 0:15:08 GMT -5
You totally should have blurted that out to Brandon. I'd love to see his reaction. ;D *Hm, a little*  |
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Post by matt on Jul 1, 2011 0:29:02 GMT -5
People can bitch about the science & inconsistencies of SR all day long, but STM had a guy reversing time by spinning the earth backwards over a girl he'd never even kissed before (Insert 1978 mode apologist excuse making). I did not try to sound like I was complaining about SR. I didn't say the Reeve movies didn't have inconsistencies either. I was just trying to figure out why RTK was deleted from the movie? Since it was deleted in the movie it never happened, all you see is Superman coming back five years later. I like SR, Brandon Routh, along with all the other SM movies flaws and all. |
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Post by MAVERICK on Jul 1, 2011 0:52:19 GMT -5
It wasn't directed at you my friend.  It was directed at those who nitpick at SR all day long while ignoring the flaws of the original. Then when someone brings up the flaws of the original, their recourse is to say "Well, STM was so good that I forgive its crap science & logic & inappropriate humor." Well, I'm here to say I feel the same way about SR. Its great parts are so great, that I forgive its few flaws. Just like I have to with the beloved STM. |
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Post by matt on Jul 1, 2011 1:08:29 GMT -5
It wasn't directed at you my friend. It was directed at those who nitpick at SR all day long while ignoring the flaws of the original. Then when someone brings up the flaws of the original, their recourse is to say "Well, STM was so good that I forgive its crap science & logic & inappropriate humor." Well, I'm here to say I feel the same way about SR. Its great parts are so great, that I forgive its few flaws. Just like I have to with the beloved STM. No worries   |
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