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Post by Bobby M on Jan 7, 2010 13:17:33 GMT -5
This thread is about the Marvel comic series. For the comics based on the film series (of Warlock) please see the other thread.  So........................what's the deal with this? |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Jan 8, 2010 18:57:19 GMT -5
Let's see...off the top of my head...
Adam Warlock is an artificially created human who was born in a cocoon at a scientific complex called The Beehive. The goal of his creators, the Enclave, was to create and subsequently exploit the perfect human. While in the cocoon, he became aware of his creators' plans for him. He awoke from the cocoon and rebelled. Having not had a childhood or parents, Warlock was lacking in maturity and restraint. He first met Alicia Masters, who was brought to the Beehive to sculpt his face, as he initially radiated so much light that a sighted person could not see through. She found him encased in a cocoon, from which he shortly emerged, destroying his creators that he hated so much, and teleported away. Warlock later came into conflict with the Fantastic Four and Thor; during his encounter with Odinson, he was killed when he attempted to force Thor's sometime paramour Sif to become his mate.
Adam was revived and his behavior improved when he met the being known as the High Evolutionary. Under his guidance, Warlock's life was given direction and purpose. Warlock also came into possession of the Soul Gem. The Soul Gem, one of the Infinity Gems, allowed Warlock to sense the souls of others and draw them into a dimension contained within the gem. Warlock was then transported to Counter-Earth, an attempt by the High Evolutionary to create a Utopian society out of the framework of the original Earth. Unfortunately, it had fallen under the influence of the Man-Beast, a wolf that had been genetically modified into humanoid form by the High Evolutionary. In the process of ending the Man-Beast's regime, Warlock's narcissism led him to another death, this time by crucifixion. Warlock used his powers to resurrect himself. Warlock, in recreating the resurrection of Christ on Counter earth, lead to the creation of an organized religion planet wide; this also was the first step toward Warlock’s "God Complex".
Traveling in the Hercules Cluster, Adam learned of the oppressive Universal Church of Truth that worshiped the Magus. Appearing to Adam, Magus revealed that they were the same being. In one alternate future (Earth-7528), the Magus used the soul gem to saturate Adam’s body with a beacon radiation that summoned the In-Betweener, inhabitant of the realm between fact and fantasy who took Adam to his domain, where he was driven mad. Emerging as the Magus, this Warlock discovered he had returned five thousand years into the past and began building his church. Aware of his history and fearing the Magus’ existence would deprive him of someday owning Adam’s soul gem, the mad god Thanos of Titan attempted to prevent the occurrence by plucking a young child, Gamora, from an alternate future and raising her to be Magus’ assassin. En-route to his destiny, Adam was imprisoned on the Church star ship, “the Great Divide” where he teamed with his fellow prisoners Pip the Troll and absorbed the soul of Captain Autolycus into his gem against his will. Later on trial on Sirus X the Church’s Homeworld, Adam absorbed Judge Kray-Tor’s soul. Thus unleashing of his soul gems vampire-like appetites was possibly caused by Spinxor of the Ringshippers (a.k.a Prime Movers) of Tarkus in his first bid to prevent Warlock from interfering in his theft of Counter-Earth for mysterious Beyonders. Realizing that the gem was sentient, thirsted for souls and could not be removed, Adam sank into despair. Gamora joined Warlock and Pip on Homeworld, but Magus easily thwarted Gamora’s assassination attempt, then doused Adam with the beacon radiation. Gamora’s ineffectiveness forced Thanos to intervene, and the primal battle between Magus’ life-force and Thanos’ death-force allowed Adam to enter the Titan’s time portal and follow his kismet trail. Choosing the shortest path, Adam saw himself dying only months later and absorbed his future self’s soul into the gem. The two timelines thus diverged and the Magus seemingly ceased to exist.
Soon after, Adam witnessed the rapid extinction of the stars and used his soul gem to track the culprit, the Star Thief, back to Earth; the star thief's body was slain while his mind was occupied in battling Warlock. Arriving home, Warlock perceived himself as wraith-like and larger than the solar system, an illusion generated through Adam's soul gem by the Sphinxor to keep him at bay. Later while gaining his perceptions, Warlock encountered Spider-Man on the Moon and helped thwart the Stranger's bid to steal the Gardener's Infinity Gems. Believing Counter-Earth destroyed due to another Sphinxor illusion, an enraged Adam attacked the High Evolutionary with his soul gem and forced him to escape death by becoming a disembodied intelligence, leaving Counter-Earth ripe for the taking. Meanwhile, Thanos procured five Infinity Gems, combining them and the power he had siphoned from Adam's gem in the Magus battle into a single large synthetic gem that he planned to use to extinguish the stars as a present to Mistress Death. When they interfered, Thanos killed Gamora and lobotomized Pip; Adam absorbed their souls into his gem. Thanos' attempt to destroy the Earth's sun was opposed by Warlock, Captain Mar-Vell, and the Avengers. In battle, Thanos mortally wounded Adam, As Warlock lay dying, his past self arrived from Thanos' time portal and absorbed his soul; weary of his many losses and struggles, Adam actually welcomed death. He found himself with the soul gem's other victims in Soulworld, a paradise of understanding and contentment. Thanos claimed Adam's gem but the newly arrived Spider-Man temporarily freed Warlock's spirit. As the Ultimate Avenger, Warlock turned Thanos to granite with a touch. Warlocks body was buried on Counter-Earth.
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Post by Bobby M on Jan 8, 2010 19:09:26 GMT -5
Wow. That's an incredibly detailed account. Thank you very much. I'm assuming you copied and pasted that. If you actually wrote it out then thank you X 2. Warlock was lacking in maturity and restraint. Sounds a lot like me. ;D I did think Thor was involved somehow, as I saw another Warlock comic cover with him on there. Seems like there are a lot of religious themes going on in this, then. It's amazing how deep and intelligent the sub-texts of some comics are. Infinity Gems - Now, I have come across these before. Specifically in the Marvel Super Heroes game from Capcom. They were power-ups in that, but I never realised what role they played in the comics. You've got a huge comic collection IIRC, haven't you Logan? How's that going? And do you have any Warlock comics in there? And thanks again for the detailed response. I've learned something new here.  |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Jan 8, 2010 19:25:40 GMT -5
Wow. That's an incredibly detailed account. Thank you very much. I'm assuming you copied and pasted that. If you actually wrote it out then thank you X 2. Yes...copy and paste. To be honest...I don't know that much about this Warlock. This is a good read:  Yes I do! I do a little collecting here and there...occasionally picking up small collections and breaking them up. I am still engaged in my eternal quest to have every Amazing Spider-man comic (around 30 short at this time...not bad for 600+ issues + annuals) I'm sure I have some Warlock comics...I know I have his 1st appearance in Fantastic Four (as "Him").  |
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Post by Bobby M on Jan 8, 2010 19:46:13 GMT -5
Yes...copy and paste. To be honest...I don't know that much about this Warlock. Well, thanks anyway for taking the time to do it. It will be a useful read if anyone is curious in the future too. This is a good read: Thanks for the tip. I would never claim to be a huge comic book fan myself (and I'm certainly no expert), but I do have quite a few of them here and there. Nothing valuable or anything, but I do have some nice collections and a complete run or two. The funny thing is, though, that I can't recall ever having that much Marvel stuff. Which is strange, because on the whole I think I do actually prefer them over DC. Oh - and I like Dark Horse as well; I've got the RoboCop VS Terminator mini series and also the Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis one too. Also some Street Fighter and a few trade paper backs. X-Men. I think maybe a bit of Star Wars too. See, now that I think of it, I do have a fair amount. And I do enjoy comics a lot. I've just never been seriously into them from a collecting point of view, aside from a small run here and there. But I can see the appeal in them. Off the top of my head, the most valuable one I've got might be the Death of Superman issue that came in the black foil seal with an armband and whatnot. Probably not worth more than about ten bucks, I know, but (like I said) I don't think I have anything really rare. Apart from that, the only other comic-related thing of value I have is a complete run of the Marvel RoboCop series, which I seem to recall getting for an incredibly low price on eBay about a decade ago. Not sure how much that would be worth now. Interestingly, my step-father (who's American) told me not long ago that he had an impressive comic collection when he was young, including many rare and now sought-after issues. But his grandmother threw them out when he was enlisted into the military.  Yes I do! I do a little collecting here and there...occasionally picking up small collections and breaking them up. I am still engaged in my eternal quest to have every Amazing Spider-man comic (around 30 short at this time...not bad for 600+ issues + annuals) I'm sure I have some Warlock comics...I know I have his 1st appearance in Fantastic Four (as "Him"). See, as a collector myself this is the kind of thing I really enjoy reading: Other people talking about their own passions and collecting exploits. Wow, that's a heck of a lot of Spiderman you have there. Good luck on getting those missing issues. OK, now you're really got my interest, I must ask: What will that Spiderman run be worth when you've completed it? and What's the most valuable/rare comic you have? |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Jan 9, 2010 17:36:59 GMT -5
It's hard to say...I have several key issues but it is all about condition in the world of comic collecting, of course.
I have Amazing Spider-man 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 which are all worth in the thousands but mine aren't near mint. I have a CGC graded 7.5 Giant Sized X-men 1 which introduced the new team/new direction. I have Hulk 181 in very good condition which I am proud of...I bought it in a 10-issue Ebay auction for $50...I had him end the auction early for me, he did not know what he had (1st Wolverine). I have many other issues worth 3-digits...1st Punisher, 1st Ghost Rider, death of Green Goblin/Gwen Stacey, X-men 94-through the Byrne issues. Of course, they are only worth what someone will pay for them!
Funny story about your step-father...I hear those kinda things ALL the time. I have an uncle on my wife's side who is in his 60s. He's a little slow, kinda like Forest Gump, to be frank. He's a pack-rat and LOVES Superman. I KNOW he has a large collection of comics as his brother and sister (my mother in law) knew that he bought and read them for many years. Their mother died recently and they all cleaned out her house and the comics were there so now they should be with him. Since he is in his early 60s, loves Superman, and still has the comics....I can't imagine what he is sitting on right now. He sends my son Superman stuff all the time. I would love to look through his stash but we do not know each other very well so it would be out of place for me to ask, I think.
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Post by Bobby M on Jan 9, 2010 17:59:33 GMT -5
Again, thanks for sharing Logan. I really enjoy reading stuff like that. Yeah, so much depends on the condition of the comics, doesn't it. And they aren't the easiest items to keep in tip-top condition, are they. I know that with some collectors they try to get doubles of items so that they can have one to actually enjoy and one to save and keep mint, and I suppose comics are the prime example of that because they're so difficult to keep in top condition if you're going to read them. A difficult dilemma, seeing as reading is what they're for, lol. My step-father isn't sure of exactly what he had in his collection, but he says he had a lot of early Superman and Spiderman in particular. He was born in the fifties, so he would have started collecting from that point onwards. Not sure if he picked up any of the really early issues, but he tells me he had quite a sizable stash. I must go to a comic convention one day, I think. I'd find it quite fascinating to just walk around and browse through what the vendors have. Like I said, as a big collector myself I'm always interested in what other people are into, even if it's not quite my thing. I guess I just enjoy seeing others expressing their passion for something via collecting, really. Anyhoo, thanks again for all the info. |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Jan 9, 2010 18:08:12 GMT -5
If you ever go to a Con, the best one's are DragonCon in Atlanta (usually around Labor Day...Sept), any Wizard World Con (they are all over the US....Philly, Dallas, New York, and my fav...Chicago) but the granddaddy of them all is the San Diego ComiCon. It is MASSIVE!! A lot of Hollywood folk will attend, lots of guests, lots of product, lots of panels, lots of screenings, but LOTS of people.
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Post by Bobby M on Jan 9, 2010 18:22:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips. Yeah, even someone as uneducated in the world of comics as I knows of Comic-Con. In fact, I think I have a Comic-Con exclusive action figure box set of Chun-Li and Mai Shiranui somewhere (big Street Fighter fan, you see). Also, wasn't the 2006 Comic-Con where Richard Donner and Mr Thau unveiled plans for the Superman II Donner Cut? I seem to recall that.
I have been to similar conventions before, just not a dedicated comic one. They have an event in the UK twice a year called Collectormania and I've been to some of those and met a few celebs. Those events are mainly film and TV-based, but they do wander into the realm of comics occasionally where there's some crossover. I think Brandon Routh was there one year, in fact. Good stuff.
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