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Post by zarius on Mar 8, 2010 10:34:48 GMT -5
www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25119No "Super-Totem" this time Joe ...We all know Clark HATES magic. "Back to his roots"...heh, funny, thanks to Geoff's influence, Supes has never been more old-school. Is JMS talking about possibly returning to the Byrne era?
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Post by ShogunLogan on Mar 8, 2010 17:18:48 GMT -5
Urrmmmm....JMS royally screwed up Spider-Man.
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Post by zarius on Mar 8, 2010 23:10:23 GMT -5
Spider-Man has been "royally screwed" since 1999.
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Post by ShogunLogan on Mar 9, 2010 7:10:19 GMT -5
JMS did a decent job with Thor, I believe. I only read a few of the issues but I enjoyed them. Seems that sort of character plays well with JMS...godlike beings and all. Maybe it will work with Supes.
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Post by zarius on Mar 9, 2010 7:59:04 GMT -5
Both Supes and Wonder Woman are full of that mystical magical mystery tour shitic, he'll fit right at home there.
D.C claim this will make "national news", so where there going with this I don't know.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 9, 2010 23:26:07 GMT -5
I've got a bad feeling about this. I've never been impressed with JMS, and I've always felt he tries too hard. I DID enjoy his first Thor arc, but, it wasn't anything special.
I've been looking for an excuse to drop the Superman books for awhile now. Action is unreadable, and Superman is a bore. New Krypton had potential, but really hasn't moved. This whole thing coulda been done in 4 issues.
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Mar 13, 2010 11:53:19 GMT -5
I totally agree. I kept on feeling like this should have been done sooner. Dragging it all out and not having superman star in his own books is stupid. God how I miss the days when a story was finished in 3 chapters in one issue from way back when.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 14, 2010 16:09:34 GMT -5
Sadly, "Dragging it all out" over multiple books/etc. seems to be both Marvel and DC's motto for awhile now.
At $2.99 or $3.99 for 17 pages for a tiny portion of a story, is nuts.
It's amazing to me that both companies wonder why comic books aren't selling as well as they used to.... (with the odd exception here and there)
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Post by zarius on Mar 14, 2010 18:28:49 GMT -5
To them, message boards, not a secure buisness stratagem, count
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 15, 2010 22:20:36 GMT -5
Been reading some of the old Roger Stern/George Perez/Jerry Ordway/Dan Jurgens runs on Superman/Adventure/Action. Absolutely the best the Superman books have been in 25 years. Still hold up quite well. Can't say the same about most of the current storylines.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Mar 17, 2010 17:17:12 GMT -5
Been reading some of the old Roger Stern/George Perez/Jerry Ordway/Dan Jurgens runs on Superman/Adventure/Action. Absolutely the best the Superman books have been in 25 years. Still hold up quite well. Can't say the same about most of the current storylines. love that stuff. met roger stern and he is a classy gent. right on my shelf i've got the "krisis of krimson kryptonite " TPB i've been wanting to flip through again.... |
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Post by zarius on Mar 19, 2010 11:01:05 GMT -5
A few interviews with JMS over the years have shown he has a preferance for the pre-Crisis Bronze Age/Silver Age Supes, and he's on record saying Alan Moore's WHTOMOT "ended" the character's story for him.
So we're looking at this structure
JMS: Iconic Silver Age-esque Superman stories where Clark is either more of an engima or more of a bufoon to people that don't know him, be they adversary or new character
Guggenheim: Marraige stories where the real Clark shines with Lois and members of his extended family
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Jun 27, 2010 22:49:02 GMT -5
Anybody check out #700? Apparently this is the gist of JMS's ideas for superman IMO: Superman will go back to his roots in a sense of slowing down and noticing the smaller details of what can be done to fix the world. At least as how I'm getting it.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 1, 2011 13:48:58 GMT -5
I know this is late in the game--- WAY LATE....
After checking out a few issues of JMS' Superman....
Was pretty disappointed. Ambitious, but disappointing---- I liked the concept, but hated the execution.
Couldn't figure out what it was, but now I think I do:
While I liked the idea of Superman deciding to stop and walk across the country to get in touch with things on a ground level-
#1: It comes off as arrogant, with all the disasters in the world. If 'the king' wanted to know what it was like to be among the peasants, he dressed up as a peasant and lived amongst them. He didn't walk around with a crown on his head or (in this case) with a cape and a big red 's' on his chest.
#2: Superman goes around, encounters a problem, and then processes it and shares his feelings and thoughts about it. If this idea was going to be used, then perhaps it should have been all told from the citizens' different point of views (like the last series of "Miracleman" stories by Neil Gaiman) of seeing Supes on the street.
Would have been more interesting if people projected what they thought about how Superman reacted from their eyewitness standby. A hero going around judging the world when he's the most invulnerable and superhuman being felt a bit odd.
#3: If a young inexperienced Superboy decided to do this, then it would probably feel more right. Superman needing to do this, makes one question: 'well, why were you so out of touch to begin with' and less sympathetic.
This storyline was sort of done with Green Lantern/Green Arrow, but with that situation, it was better framed, because you had two (sometimes) viewpoints of a situation arguing it out as they went across America, and it was sort of mandated by a higher source (Green Lantern's bosses).
With Superman choosing to do this...... it opens up a lot of story logic questions that make the story feel more bogged down, than anything else.
Nice try, JMS, but I think that it's a pity that Denny O'Neil (The GL/GA author) wasn't the editor here. He might have pushed to setup the situation a little better.
In the end, I think there are some nice moments to it, but, damn, the situations make it REALLY forced.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jun 6, 2011 17:34:48 GMT -5
Read the first issue. Found it HILARIOUSLY bad. "Forced" is the right word. JMS is a hack of the first order, and is in love with the smell of his own farts. He doesn't get Superman at all.
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