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Post by ye5man on May 24, 2010 8:57:02 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd have bought Reeve back for a reboot 5 years after STM if there was no 2?
I'm guessing in his instance, yes.
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Post by EvilSupes on May 24, 2010 11:11:17 GMT -5
Hmm, now there's a thought!
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Post by botz1 on May 24, 2010 18:13:51 GMT -5
Yeah, but Reeve's Superman movies didn't go through a complete change throughout their universe. They were all more or less set in the Donner established universe. As was Singer's. Nolan's won't be set in such a beast. It'll be a brand new thing altogether. So Routh is less likely to survive this transition than Reeve was in his. I see your point, but how different can the so called"NOLANS VERISON" be. Donner pritty much created the superman world(on film), so any movie that made from any one else is donners world. IMO What kind of new take can this guy possibly give us?? I dont see it, i mean we got superman, daily planet, lois, jimmy. i mean its all the same stuff. What, will he shoot it in B/W...hahahahhaha |
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Post by Keith on May 24, 2010 23:41:56 GMT -5
Yeah, but Reeve's Superman movies didn't go through a complete change throughout their universe. They were all more or less set in the Donner established universe. As was Singer's. Nolan's won't be set in such a beast. It'll be a brand new thing altogether. So Routh is less likely to survive this transition than Reeve was in his. I see your point, but how different can the so called"NOLANS VERISON" be. Donner pritty much created the superman world(on film), so any movie that made from any one else is donners world. IMO What kind of new take can this guy possibly give us?? I dont see it, i mean we got superman, daily planet, lois, jimmy. i mean its all the same stuff. What, will he shoot it in B/W...hahahahhaha Nolan can completely redo Krytpon (No crystals or ice planet) It could be more how it's been in the comics back in the day, futuristic cities and all that. The fortress will not something like the comics of the pass. There's a lot that can be redone and made fresh again. The core elements will remain the same (Daily Planet, Lois, Jimmy) Donner did his take on what all krypton and everything would look like.. Nolan will do his take as well. |
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Post by HOSNI on May 25, 2010 2:31:05 GMT -5
Yo Keith, got any inspiration for some new fan art?
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Post by Keith on May 25, 2010 12:42:41 GMT -5
Yo Keith, got any inspiration for some new fan art? There's some stuff I have in mind, but I've been so busy working and learning the website stuff that I haven't had a second to even mess around in photoshop lol. But Soon I'll be doing something. |
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Post by Scissorpuppy on May 25, 2010 16:10:52 GMT -5
Yeah, but Reeve's Superman movies didn't go through a complete change throughout their universe. They were all more or less set in the Donner established universe. As was Singer's. Nolan's won't be set in such a beast. It'll be a brand new thing altogether. So Routh is less likely to survive this transition than Reeve was in his. I see your point, but how different can the so called"NOLANS VERISON" be. Donner pritty much created the superman world(on film), so any movie that made from any one else is donners world. IMO What kind of new take can this guy possibly give us?? I dont see it, i mean we got superman, daily planet, lois, jimmy. i mean its all the same stuff. What, will he shoot it in B/W...hahahahhaha Just compare Nolan's Batman to Burton/Schmacher's batman. Completely different takes. Most of the same characters and names but handled different, new interpretations are what has kept the comics alive all these years, it what has to happen in the movies at this point. |
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Post by Kirok on May 25, 2010 18:34:36 GMT -5
I think the art deco/city of tomorrow approach is the way to go. It'd be full circle from the Burton Batman films inspiring Batman: The Animated Series, which in turn informed the look of Superman: The Animated Series that itself would be a good source inspiration for Nolan's Superman films. There's also the Fleischer cartoons to consider as well as years and years of comics with the same aesthetic.
I'm not saying the films should take place in the 1930s (as we've discussed before it'd be cool but they'd never do it), but giving it that timeless feel of B89 and the Animated Series (both Batman and Superman) would certainly make Nolan's Superman stand apart from its predecessors. Singer tried this to a degree in SR but similar to the way he straddled the fence on continuity and story, his compromised approach fell flat. All out is the way to go.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 27, 2010 14:31:45 GMT -5
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Post by belloq on May 27, 2010 14:56:09 GMT -5
me too, I do hope they go with someone a little older. always liked Mav's idea of Matthew Fox. they never felt the need to go young with Batman, so I don't see why Superman should be any different.
how in the heck can they honestly think they can shoot for 2012? if they were pretty far in pre-production I could see it, but they obviously aren't or we'd already have leaked stuff to talk about already.
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Post by Legsy on May 27, 2010 15:20:46 GMT -5
Maybe he meant 2013, ala Smallville.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 27, 2010 16:09:31 GMT -5
Also, I won't lie.. I'm pretty sure that I'll hate that guy. ;D
I'm serious.
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Post by Legsy on May 27, 2010 16:16:57 GMT -5
What happens if they pick Routh? Will you hate him?
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Post by EvilSupes on May 27, 2010 16:43:11 GMT -5
how in the heck can they honestly think they can shoot for 2012? if they were pretty far in pre-production I could see it, but they obviously aren't or we'd already have leaked stuff to talk about already. Unless they are going for an all CGI movie. If they do that, I will feel pretty much raped.  |
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Post by botz1 on May 27, 2010 18:13:07 GMT -5
how in the heck can they honestly think they can shoot for 2012? if they were pretty far in pre-production I could see it, but they obviously aren't or we'd already have leaked stuff to talk about already. Why should Christmas 2012 be a problem?  Thats over 2 1/2 years away...Thats plenty of time....Be greatfull it aint Christmas 2015 |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 27, 2010 19:33:31 GMT -5
me too, I do hope they go with someone a little older. always liked Mav's idea of Matthew Fox. they never felt the need to go young with Batman, so I don't see why Superman should be any different. how in the heck can they honestly think they can shoot for 2012? if they were pretty far in pre-production I could see it, but they obviously aren't or we'd already have leaked stuff to talk about already. yeah, we have had enough superboyman, enough metrosex man, i want to see a superman with a commanding presence- a guy who instantly owns the screen and reminds people why superman is the the king of mt olympus |
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Post by Legsy on May 28, 2010 9:24:26 GMT -5
I've always thought Patrick Warburton would make a good Supes.  He's currently playing Jeff, the dumb former jock/idiot husband on Rules of Engagement. He also does the voice of Joe on Family Guy and Brock Sampson on the Venture Brothers. But we all remember him as David Puddy from Seinfeld. |
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Post by Keith on May 28, 2010 10:11:38 GMT -5
But we all remember him as David Puddy from Seinfeld. For that reason alone.. I can't see him as Supes, I will always see Puddy. lol |
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Post by Shane on May 28, 2010 22:46:07 GMT -5
the face painter
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Post by Jimbo on May 28, 2010 23:56:58 GMT -5
He'll always be Cronk from The Emperor's New Groove. ;D
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 29, 2010 1:34:09 GMT -5
Well.... who knows if Nolan hasn't been working on this for AWHILE now? Given how TDK's script was able to have been kept secret (as far as I know, nothing got leaked before the actual film got released)--- maybe Nolan has a better way of concealing what he's been up to, more than other filmmakers--- (and/or maybe he got even more stringent on secrecy when Batman Begins' script got leaked early on).
About 1930's setting......my own feeling is that a Superman film wouldn't be nearly as uplifting if it didn't feel set in the CURRENT time. (A time that feels ironically sadder and possibly more depressing than the 1930's) If Nolan is going for the same approach as TDK- and making it feel as if it's happening 'now'--- I'm ALL for it.
And..... for me, like Star, my preference remains Routh. Pre-STM, I was rooting for someone older, like the comics. After watching STM, Reeve's youth and approach felt like THE best way to go to appeal to me. I'm open to another actor- just as I was open to Routh after Reeve, but I have a hard hard time believing that they'll get lightning in a bottle again in casting....
And- who knows? Maybe Nolan will end up wanting to stay with Routh? Only he knows for sure....
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Post by Jimbo on May 29, 2010 2:39:24 GMT -5
It certainly would save considerable time by sticking with Routh, but I get the impression Nolan doesn't want to inherit anything.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 29, 2010 9:45:29 GMT -5
I have this odd hunch that Nolan's not even sure right now, or that they (Being WB and Nolan) don't want to alienate any fans by saying one way or the other.
One thing I'm glad that Nolan's NOT doing, is, to bash Singer's prior work on Supes... (unlike what Matthew Vaughn did with Xmen2, but ironically is now working under him for Xmen: First Class)- but... again, theres' hope (in my mind anyways) that Nolan will consider everything, and not just dismiss Routh because he was part of Singer's version.
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Another plus in Nolan's corner is that I admire that Nolan didn't just take over Batman and say: "I want to do a Chris Nolan film & reinvent everything, regardless if it's in the comics or NOT!" His choosing of Goyer (for his familiarity with comics) as a collaborator, was a masterstroke- and just - smart.
(Can one imagine if he chose someone like.... Akiva Goldsman? *shudder* ;p )
I still think it's not impossible that Routh will be chosen, as no official (at least what I've heard, but then again, I've been out of the loop) word has been given one way or the other- and I'm sure similiar discussions about his viability for a 'fresh reboot' must be happening as well.
One thing that suprises me, though, is the timetable DC has given. Nolan's going to pretty much direct the third Batman AND produce Superman at the same time???
Hmn....
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Post by belloq on May 29, 2010 10:20:07 GMT -5
Well.... who knows if Nolan hasn't been working on this for AWHILE now? Given how TDK's script was able to have been kept secret (as far as I know, nothing got leaked before the actual film got released)--- maybe Nolan has a better way of concealing what he's been up to, more than other filmmakers--- (and/or maybe he got even more stringent on secrecy when Batman Begins' script got leaked early on). About 1930's setting......my own feeling is that a Superman film wouldn't be nearly as uplifting if it didn't feel set in the CURRENT time. (A time that feels ironically sadder and possibly more depressing than the 1930's) If Nolan is going for the same approach as TDK- and making it feel as if it's happening 'now'--- I'm ALL for it. And..... for me, like Star, my preference remains Routh. Pre-STM, I was rooting for someone older, like the comics. After watching STM, Reeve's youth and approach felt like THE best way to go to appeal to me. I'm open to another actor- just as I was open to Routh after Reeve, but I have a hard hard time believing that they'll get lightning in a bottle again in casting.... And- who knows? Maybe Nolan will end up wanting to stay with Routh? Only he knows for sure.... As per pretty much always, I agree with everything you say. Routh would be my #1, but if not, I had an idea. Let's say the new movie is set in current times, but Superman's career only spanned the 30's or so. He quit. Maybe after WWII he realized that the world just might be able to take care of itself, and when it went to shit again, maybe he'd just grown too accustomed to watching from the sidelines; grown a bit apathetic. Flashforward to now (where the movie could begin), where people don't even really believe in Superman any more. They think he was a propagandized fairy tale. No video of the dude. Some shoddy photography and some goofy newspaper articles. A few old codgers with outrageous stories. No one believes. Superman atheism. Insert otherworldy threat here. Could be Kryptonian (Brainiac). This way Clark, still pretty spry for a 100+ year old, working anonymously on a farm (a la Kingdom Come) feels its his responsibility to come back, kick ass, save the world, and make everyone believers again. If Chris Nolan's Batman lives in a world without superheroes, well there you go, there was a rumor of one once, but it was a bunch of bullshit, until................Superman Returns!!!!!!!oh wait, already taken, how about.................eh, that's all I had. Anyway, a pinch or two of Kingdom Come with a splash of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? in a foamy broth of The Animated Series might just equal blockbuster soup. As long as there's fighting. A lot of it. And CGI. Did I mention Lois died of a coronary in '87 at the age of 79. Jimmy's in a home. |
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Post by ye5man on May 29, 2010 16:15:51 GMT -5
yeah, we have had enough superboyman, enough metrosex man, i want to see a superman with a commanding presence- a guy who instantly owns the screen and reminds people why superman is the the king of mt olympus Definitely. |
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