Man of Steel (2013)

[ye5man]

I would absolutely love it if it were a period piece (with the right lighting and production design/value). The best idea I've heard for this yet



Yeah, Singer and his inconsistent "vague history" nonsense: SR Metropolis looked nothing like NY


I thought BB was in a futuristic (or alternate timeline) city, but TDK was set firmly in the present in today's World referencing today's terrorist setting.

[botz1]

maybe im the only one, but im worried on what goyer and nolan are planning for sups...

what is peace period? 30's and 40's? superman set in that time era would be absurd. and whats with the low-fi version of the hero rumor..what? no powers?

nolan said he loves the idea goyer has for superman. IMO, i think we will hate it.

[ye5man]

Do you think you ought to hear the ideas first before condeming them?

[belloq]

the only thing i can see against the period piece idea is marketing the thing and wb having the confidence to go forward with something that inspiring. As far as what I'd love to see, I agree with ye5man. Period piece all the way. You could use a lot of the imagery from the animated series and the better moments from the Fleischer cartoons. I mean c'mon, how cool would it be to see Superman in Europe fighting Nazis and throwing tanks. Not to mention how something set in the 30's or 40's would alleviate any confusion as to why the Nolan Batman world and the Nolan Superman world weren't cross-pollinating.

[crazy_asian_man]

nolan said he loves the idea goyer has for superman. IMO, i think we will hate it.

There's a great video interview with Goyer that I saw at a screenwriter's conference. (If I can find the name and/or link somewhere I'll post it up) In the interview, Goyer talks a LOT about Batman Begins (as this was conducted about the time it either was in production or after)--- but also a bit about how (apparently at the time) he didn't feel comfortable writing Superman, as personally it wasn't something that clicked with his nature.

At the same time--- Goyer's comic book credentials are impeccable.
To me, Jonathan Nolan was a wild card- but, hey, TDK for me went beyond my own expectations.....so if we couldn't have Singer's MOS, I'm on board with a Nolan bros./Goyer production.

Anyhow, will try to find the EXACT quote by Goyer and put it up. It IS very strange that Goyer felt so strong that he couldn't be the right guy to write Superman, but thankfully I think it's safe to say that Goyer and the Nolans probably AREN'T making Superman for a fast buck- or make a career rebound off of it (unlike Richard Lester).

At the same time..... for those who thought SR was too dark in tone--- I'd just say: watch the REST of Nolan's films, besides the Batman films. Every single one is VERY dark. I love most all of them, but for those who ragged on SR for its darkness--- well, just go view the other Nolan films for yourselves.

About the continuing pro/con of being a period piece:
There's a list of comic characters that I think would ONLY work in that time:
For example:

Personally, I feel Captain America works THE best in World War II- (would be foolish I think if the new movie isn't set in WWII, although they could) moreso than Superman.
Similiarly, there'd been a long talk about Wonder Woman as a live action film--- the same.
The Shadow as well---

About Supes, though:
Well--- yes, you could place Supes in the past, present, or even a fictional future, and have it work.

I think storywise- it takes more effort to make him relevant NOW, not in the past.
In many ways, making it a period piece also removes comparisons to it to the DOnner films or other versions as well--- but if Goyer/Nolan have a similiar idea of treating Superman as a trilogy as they had (roughly) for Batman (despite Nolan's saying that never contemplated sequels when reports early on showed that he and Goyer already had a rough sketch)--- then it'll be fine.

But..... please, start with a bang with Brainiac or Darkseid or such that we haven't seen in live action yet. Supes throwing Nazi tanks around is cool, but that can be done on any home computer. BRAINIAC please. In ATP. I mean, CGI.

[Gandy]

Mar 13, 2010 9:21:05 GMT -5 ye5man said:

I would absolutely love it if it were a period piece (with the right lighting and production design/value). The best idea I've heard for this yet



Yeah, Singer and his inconsistent "vague history" nonsense: SR Metropolis looked nothing like NY


I thought BB was in a futuristic (or alternate timeline) city, but TDK was set firmly in the present in today's World referencing today's terrorist setting.

BB was set in another part of Gotham, you know, like Brixton in the 70s. TDK is set in the posh end, the Joker taking the fight to Batman in Central London.

[Legsy]

Now that it's official, I really don't care.

BAH!

Oh well, I'll get excited once they start casting the damn thing.

Bye, Bye, Routhy. I'll miss you.

[atp]

Routh = George Lazenby of Superman

[MerM]

Which is appropriate, as I'm sure some decades from now there'll be some consensus about SR being a very good movie and unfairly underrated upon its release.

[dehbum]

Routh should be given an interview and a screen test based on the new material.

Rouths Superman was handcuffed with no chemistry or screen-time with Lois Lane, and possibly Routh was also handcuffed by the director. I would have liked to of seen a new interpretation of Clark Kent also

[upandaway]

Wasn't Routh signed for 3 movies? Do they have to pay him off if not used?

[ye5man]

Mar 13, 2010 14:29:32 GMT -5 atp said:

Routh = George Lazenby of Superman

Except Routh wasn't an ass-hole and also wanted to do more

[botz1]

Mar 13, 2010 14:52:41 GMT -5 dehbum said:

Routh should be given an interview and a screen test based on the new material.

Rouths Superman was handcuffed with no chemistry or screen-time with Lois Lane, and possibly Routh was also handcuffed by the director. I would have liked to of seen a new interpretation of Clark Kent also

1000% agreed. routh was doomed from start..

If Nolan/goyer's fresh take on superman is as great as they say it will be, then no one will realize that Routh was in SR. At least i wont.
I think routh would shine in the next flick..

[crazy_asian_man]

Now that it's official, I really don't care.

BAH!

Oh well, I'll get excited once they start casting the damn thing.

Bye, Bye, Routhy. I'll miss you.

?
It's official that Nolan is on, but I haven't read anywhere that it's official that Routh won't be back.

We're assuming that Nolan won't use him.... but on Brandon's own site, it's not 100%.
Is it possible that WB and Nolan are going to go through auditions first and see at the end who they best like, ultimately?

[MerM]

Yeah, if nothing else, Nolan's probably savvy enough to consider him (as well as the reasons to let him go... some of which, it has to be said, are valid).

[Shane]

has nolan mentioned if he like sr or not ?
that would go a long way with his decision i would say

[Deleted]

So much for letting the franchise rest a bit. Now this is going to drag out another three years worth of speculation, six months of intense pre-premier hype and another three years of intense scrutiny after the release.

I'm getting too old for this shit.

[dehbum]

Mar 14, 2010 3:29:18 GMT -5 @bamabrad said:

I'm getting too old for this shit.

LOL
I usually say tha twhen I pull up in the parking lot when I start work

I believe all the contracts fro SR are expired.

At least we have something new and concrete to talk about

[belloq]

yeah, i think that's the main point. with a competent team already in place, its gonna be pretty fun to contemplate what they're going to do, who the cast will be, what the music will be like, etc. i mean just a couple of months ago, everyone around here (myself included) was sure it'd be several years before another Superman project got started. i'm definitely in the camp of Nolan=good. love the period piece idea, but i'm sure whatever their idea is will be great.

[Jor-El's Rolex]

Remember when Nicholas Cage was going to be the next Superman...?

[belloq]

hey, who knows? the job looks to be open again. as we speak he could be sobering up, cutting his hair (or getting it extended), and intensely training - Rocky in Russia style.

[botz1]

Is there a tentative release date?

Is nolan doing sups before bats?

[Kirok]

I would imagine Batman 3 would be completed before work on Superman began so we're looking at a 2014/2015 release date.

[botz1]

Mar 14, 2010 17:54:14 GMT -5 Kirok said:

I would imagine Batman 3 would be completed before work on Superman began so we're looking at a 2014/2015 release date.

Theres no way it will be that long...

Goyer is writing the script now.

Production has to start before 2011, no?

Im guessing 2012/13, but will we be around to see it..hahahaha

[crazy_asian_man]

They would be stupid not to get this guy! Period piece or not!
Dude turns 40 this year. They need to get going asap.

((The guy from "Madmen"))

Has a good look--- but..... am I the only one that thinks he kind of looks like an older version of Christian Bale?

Speaking of which.......is it impossible that Nolan would use Christian Bale as Superman?
Bale ends up in most of Nolan's films, and (presumably) both films won't be shooting at the same time---

How would people feel about that scenario?