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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 25, 2010 10:53:29 GMT -5
Just read this story. I don't know if it's indeed true, but it sure is inspiring. So the question is, Has Superman ever done something like this for you? Has he given you hope or inspired you in times when you needed it the most? Has he 'saved' you in any way? From a panel of the All-Star Superman comic,
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 25, 2010 11:38:47 GMT -5
Saved me, no. But I wonder how many he has killed. I've heard stories for years of kids with bedsheets wrapped around their necks jumping off their rooves or out their windows, thinking they'll fly like Superman.
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Post by Legsy on Oct 25, 2010 11:41:42 GMT -5
Superman has saved everyone to some capacity! I personally don't know where I would be if it weren't for the Big Blue Boy Scout. He inspires us to be the best we can. He's the American dream, he's the beacon of hope.
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Post by ye5man on Oct 25, 2010 12:28:38 GMT -5
Superman: Inspiring yes, life saving, no. I'm glad she was inspired enough by a comic to turn her life around though. Inspiration comes from anywhere.
Just don't show this girl "Superman Returns". Its gloominess might just regress her to her previous emotional state
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Oct 25, 2010 12:45:53 GMT -5
In some ways, he has for me. I don't think I'd be such a morally upright person without the lessons I've learned in my childhood, lessons partially given by fictional stories. I also struggle with depression, have had it for quite a long while, currently untreated. It's tough sometimes though when you have depression to get into the things you like, such as watching movies, games, etc. It can affect lots of stuff in your life, trust me. Anyone that says it's ridiculous or it's not like you got your leg blown off or anything is really stupid. It's a disease. It affects your life in general in many different ways that the normal naysayer takes for granted and are oblivious to.
BTW, I think Grant's little thing in All star is infinitely much better than JMS's in his recent series.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 25, 2010 13:46:30 GMT -5
Similiar situation here. I grew up in situations, looking back, that could have led me either way. Ideally, it'd be a family member or mentor that could guide you growing up- but when one isn't present (for economic reasons or whatever) it's amazing what influences one can glom onto one way or the other to help you out*.
(*thus, my irritation at the content of some video games that get spread onto school playgrounds, but that's another thread entirely)
I agree. I have relatives and friends who struggle with the same.
I have to say that I admire what JMS at least tries to have a point or meaning to his stories, whether hit or miss. The current Superman run is daring to do something different, but I don't think it's quite as successful as his one-shot stories in "Brave and Bold" (which are mostly fantastic).
Grant's aim seems to be more fun- and works often because he thinks so far out of the box no one else can really touch him.
Aside from Geoff Johns, Morrison & JMS most of the other writers in comics kind of blur imo. JMS stuff aint' perfect, but it's still a step above most of the time. At least you can see it trying to give a message about hope for humanity and tolerance, whereas with most of the other comic writers, stuff is pretty forgettable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 14:09:06 GMT -5
Superman saved me in the sense that I was turning into a general shithead in life and I started thinking more along the lines of what Superman would do in situations and I started acting more on that part.
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Post by Knight on Oct 25, 2010 18:02:35 GMT -5
I have had a bout of depression,life's tough and troughs all kinds at you. I have always gotten through with my friends,but when I'm alone, music,littérateur and film helps me a lot.
Superman plays a big part in my every day life,he is an inspiration. Doing the right thing,being a proper man,a gentleman in every sense of the word. Helping those less fortunate than me,being a role model to others.
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Post by johnnyboy on Oct 25, 2010 19:52:52 GMT -5
Superman has ruined my life. The bloody imp.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Oct 25, 2010 22:33:37 GMT -5
That sequence from All Star Superman made me weep like a little girl with a skinned knee.
Has Superman saved me?
Countless times.
I am completely non-religious. I believe in spiritual things, but I don't necessarily believe in God. (I don't necessarily disbelieve in him either, mind you, and I'M NOT TRYING TO OPEN THIS CAN OF WORMS IN THIS THREAD)
But Superman, my interpretation of Superman, taking my favorite elements of the character from throughout his history, the bits that really show him as a "symbol of hope" and a beacon of kindness, responsibility, fairness and tolerance, I have an almost religious respect for.
And yes, I realize it's a fictional character and a corporate icon and all that. But those elements resonated with me from such a young age in a way that Catholicism (as I was raised) never did, and after 33 years on this planet, probably never will.
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 26, 2010 12:12:54 GMT -5
Superman has never saved me, but he has always being a source of great entertainment, inspiration and a pretty good role model of what a real man should be.
He's just super awesome! I'm so glad he was invented. He's like the greatest fantasy in the world.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Oct 26, 2010 12:39:00 GMT -5
Saved me, no. But I wonder how many he has killed. I've heard stories for years of kids with bedsheets wrapped around their necks jumping off their rooves or out their windows, thinking they'll fly like Superman. well .... eexxcccuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusse me! Superman saved me in the sense that I was turning into a general shithead in life and I started thinking more along the lines of what Superman would do in situations and I started acting more on that part. here here!
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Oct 26, 2010 12:41:19 GMT -5
Superman has ruined my life. The bloody imp. ;D there are days... all the anxiety i have over superman movies and shabby tv... Superman plays a big part in my every day life,he is an inspiration. Doing the right thing,being a proper man,a gentleman in every sense of the word. Helping those less fortunate than me,being a role model to others. amen. i simply cannot stand a lack of gentlemenly behavior.
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Post by johnnyboy on Oct 26, 2010 18:58:43 GMT -5
Superman has ruined my life. The bloody imp. ;D there are days... all the anxiety i have over superman movies and shabby tv... Well, at least someone's laughing. I didn't want to go down the vainglorious route of "Superman's all about tolerance and respect and saying your prayers and dotting your Is and crossing your Ts and baking mom a nice big apple pie" and all that hooey. I do understand the need for role models and a sense of identification and inspiration in other characters, however. We need guiding lights and guardian angels. But this is how I see it ... Superman may well be about good things, but he's also about never questioning authority, never condemning bigotry, never wrestling with soul-crushing dilemmas and generally confining himself to his country's own borders. It all depends on how you look at it, I guess. There is an embodiment of fairness and grace and strength in Superman, but there is also much that is sort of insular and fascistic about the character. As I've grown older, the character has lost some of his luster, for me. Interesting question, though. I'm not sure Superman has saved me. But he's led me down certain paths that are now part of my history. In that sense, he has helped make me who I am, and put me where I am, today.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Oct 26, 2010 23:05:32 GMT -5
"Never condemning bigotry?" Superman radio show takes on the Ku Klux Klan in 1945 www.worldhistoryblog.com/2005/12/stetson-kennedy-and-superman-beat-kkk.htmlSuperman takes on Hitler...BEFORE the U.S. enters WWII. www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1679961,00.html If I can find and scan it, I'll dig up the single page PSA's that appeared in silver age DC comics where Superman stops a bunch of douchey kids from not letting their black buddy play football with him. This is in the 50's, folks. Long before MLK and Malcolm X. "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" were originally "Truth, Justice, and TOLERANCE" and it was only changed in the 50s because of the worry that Supey was a little too much of a pinko, and there were Senate subcommittees investigating whether comic books contributed to juvenile delinquency. Superman was created by poor Jewish kids, and the vast majority of his exploits in the golden age were written by working class Jewish guys. The comic book publishing industry was based almost exclusively in NYC and there was a hefty percentage of working class Jewish dudes writing this stuff, all of whom were probably quite sensitive to the conditions of other minorities in the U.S. at the time. Superman was used, especially in his earliest days, almost specifically TO condemn bigotry and advance social messages. So, "never condemning bigotry?" Wrong-o.
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Post by ye5man on Oct 27, 2010 9:32:50 GMT -5
I know why the "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" but I always hated the last bit; the principles he stands for are Universal.
Having said that, I agree with Mank when he said to Reeve that he shouldn't try and solve the World's problems
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 18:40:40 GMT -5
I always interpreted the American Way as "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." That's not strictly American. That's universal.
I can see why some folks don't care for it but when you look at it THAT way, I think it's plenty fine.
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Post by lois on Jan 13, 2011 13:46:42 GMT -5
Saved me? In a way I'd say Yes. When I was feeling sad I'd pop in a Superman film and felt cheered up. Sometimes I'd go on a mini marathon and watch all five Superman movies back to back with friends and popcorn. Loads of fun! I too am glad Superman was invented. Can't imagine not having Superman around.
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Post by atp on Jan 15, 2011 5:25:34 GMT -5
Saved me? In a way I'd say Yes. When I was feeling sad I'd pop in a Superman film and felt cheered up. Sometimes I'd go on a mini marathon and watch all five Superman movies back to back with friends and popcorn. Loads of fun! Five? WTF? You mean all four, right? please?
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Post by ye5man on Jan 15, 2011 17:01:12 GMT -5
She included "Superman and the Mole-men!"
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2011 17:08:48 GMT -5
Five? WTF? You mean all four, right? please? Five including Superman Returns since there are five Superman films to date.
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2011 17:13:21 GMT -5
She included "Superman and the Mole-men!" PMSL ;D I did see that on TV a awhile back.
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Post by EnriqueH on Jan 16, 2011 21:32:08 GMT -5
I've heard stories for years of kids with bedsheets wrapped around their necks jumping off their rooves or out their windows, thinking they'll fly like Superman. Y'know, I've heard these stories too, but has this---IN FACT---happened? Or are they an old maid's tale?
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jan 17, 2011 12:23:35 GMT -5
I've never seen any proof that this happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 12:36:33 GMT -5
....I did it when I was four...
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