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Post by ye5man on Apr 28, 2011 13:45:18 GMT -5
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Post by Jimbo on Apr 28, 2011 14:55:26 GMT -5
He was an illegal immigrant anyway. Send him to Gitmo. ;D
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 15:29:43 GMT -5
April 28, 2011: Superman Renounces U.S. CitizenshipIt's "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" no more, as Superman renounces his U.S. citizenship within the pages of "Action Comics #900". The key scene takes place in "The Incident," a short story in Action Comics #900 written by David S. Goyer with art by Miguel Sepulveda. In it, Superman consults with the President's national security advisor, who is incensed that Superman appeared in Tehran to non-violently support the protesters demonstrating against the Iranian regime, no doubt an analogue for the recent real-life protests in the Middle East. However, since Superman is viewed as an American icon in the DC Universe as well as our own, the Iranian government has construed his actions as the will of the American President, and indeed, an act of war. Superman replies that it was foolish to think that his actions would not reflect politically on the American government, and that he therefore plans to renounce his American citizenship at the United Nations the next day -- and to continue working as a superhero from a more global than national perspective. From a "realistic" standpoint it makes sense; it would indeed be impossible for a nigh-omnipotent being ideologically aligned with America to intercede against injustice beyond American borders without creating enormous political fallout for the U.S. government 
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 15:39:53 GMT -5
once again, as if we needed any more evidence, here's proof that WB/DC is run by retarded monkeys.
who thought this was a good idea? when does it make sense to tell your target audience to piss off?
i remember the last time a leftist/globalist too-good-for-america approach was taken with superman:
it was SUPERMAN IV the quest for peace and it was the SH*TTIEST thing in the history of comics and cinema.
so superman returns didn't make enough money? well what a brilliant idea to have the writer of the new movie use superman to tell america to piss off.
every time i think i'm warming to the next flick i'm reminded of why i dread it.
1) the globalist attitude is uneccessary. superman is already a world (galactic!) hero. renouncing citizenship is beyond the pale. people impressed with this clearly don't understand what "american way" means.
it was handled PERFECTLY in S:TM.
superman says " i'm here to fight for truth justice and the american way" , and he means it sincerely.
lois says " you'll end up fighting every elected official "
superman " i'm sure you don't mean that lois"
perfect. superman isn't talking about being a nationalist stooge. he's talking about calling america home, and being an icon for the whole world.
2) america will not "evolve" ( as was suggested by a few at the homepage) by surrendering to the UN. quite the contrary. these globalist aren't about equality, they're about a permanent underclass subservient to a permanant elite. on a global scale.
there's nothing "progressive" about that.
spare us your illusion of intellectual superiority.
there is NOTHING wrong with soviergn nations, with thier own cultures and internal laws and religions and customs, getting along equitably WITHOUT a global overlord presiding. i don't need anyone's apporval to know who my friends are or who my enemies are.
so, well played WB/DC. watch the sales evaporate.
if there's any justice the siegal schuster estate will win back superman and i hope they sell it to marvel for pennies on the dollar.
goyer isnt being "brave". he is being oppurtunist. he thinks this will "impress" people. he is only in action 900 because he's writing the movie. he is only writing the movie because he's connected to nolan, and goyer has already been on record saying he doesn't "GET" superman.
clearly, he was correct about that.
screw you goyer, you ignorant toad.
screw you DC, you don't deserve to control superman.
screw you WB, i. hope. you. fail.
they won't get a DIME from me untill this is retconned out.
no toys, no new comics, no movie tickets.
don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. you're DONE.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 15:53:53 GMT -5
shit- i posted this in the movies thread BECAUSE goter wrote it...  |
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Post by Jimbo on Apr 28, 2011 15:55:25 GMT -5
Gonna merge and transfer to Superman board. This is too juicy for the tumbleweed Comics board. |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 16:06:48 GMT -5
havent had low enough blood pressure to go to any other boards, but i am pleased thatthe blog posting at homepage is mostly symaptico with my view. a few lefties and america bashers, but most seem to be offended by this.
isn't it ironic, an american writer says superman isn't for the american way- and a british writer (john byrne) positivley asserted that he IS for the american way.
( in fact, "TRUE BRIT" was written to show what a disastor it would be if he'd have been raised elsewhere )
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Post by Jimbo on Apr 28, 2011 16:10:49 GMT -5
And then there were those two bozos...   |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 16:18:57 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS:
Superman renounces Metropolis residency
Superman has now acknowledged that he must renounce his residency ...in Metropolis.
Superman hhas way too much to do, in many cities all over the place that he simply can not be hamstrung by the impression that any "hero-ing" he does is yazoo-city mississippi is somehow a policy of the Metropolis city council.
"metropolis: home of Superman" isn't good enough anymore.
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in other news, Sherlock holmes can no longer solve mysteries if it seems his crime fighting is a policy of the crown and therefore renounces his residency of England.
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Post by Jimbo on Apr 28, 2011 16:22:19 GMT -5
I guess Superman got tired of Donald Trump asking for his birth certificate.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 16:30:09 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS:
SUPERMAN RENOUNCES MARRIAGE TO LOIS LANE
in a day of historic 180's, superman has just publicly renounced his marriage to wife of many years: lois lane.
and seriously, is this not more realistic? i mean, superman can't be going all over the galaxy saving people if it's going to be percieved as a policy of some reporter's "honey-do" list.
superman: husband to lois lane, it just isn't good enough anymore.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 28, 2011 16:36:42 GMT -5
That marriage thing is in the cards, by the way...
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 16:45:18 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS :
SUPERMAN RENOUNCES HETEROSEXUALITY
whew! superman has just publicly exclaimed that he can longer function as a world hero while being a heterosexual.
"sure, i've always been nice to gay people, but i've been hetero my whole life and well, it's passe" superman stated. " i can't be out there saving everyone if it's going to be percieved as some conservative homophobia- policy. for me to be a hero to all, i must be BI/curious."
Superman: heterosexual. it just isn't good enough anymore.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 28, 2011 17:07:17 GMT -5
This could also be a particular story beat, by the way, and not necessarily a "statement". There was a very similar Captain America story in the late 80s or early 90s.
None of this matters to me, as the Superman comics have been festering piles of boredom for the last couple of years, and I wouldn't touch 'em with a ten foot pole regardless. Wake me when the A-List talent returns.
And even THEN, let's face it; Nothing will ever be as good as Morrison/Quitely's All-Star Superman. When I need a Superman comic, that's what I read.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 17:08:28 GMT -5
This could also be a particular story beat, by the way, and not necessarily a "statement". There was a very similar Captain America story in the late 80s or early 90s. None of this matters to me, as the Superman comics have been festering piles of boredom for the last couple of years, and I wouldn't touch 'em with a ten foot pole regardless. Wake me when the A-List talent returns. And even THEN, let's face it; Nothing will ever be as good as Morrison/Quitely's All-Star Superman. When I need a Superman comic, that's what I read. it's in my top ten. handily. |
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Post by atp on Apr 28, 2011 17:14:54 GMT -5
I just heard Superman renounced Superman Returns.
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Post by EnriqueH on Apr 28, 2011 17:23:41 GMT -5
OooooOOooh!
C'mon, guys. Another marketing ploy to sell more books.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 28, 2011 19:33:24 GMT -5
OHMYGAWD!
i just realised- you know who's LOVING this? i mean love love loving it?
MARVEL comics. seriously. MARVEL just got a god-send.
see, i remember the last time when Superman comics were this f*cked up:
it was the electric-blue superman for no apparent reason. then- then they compounded the agony with TWIN electric superman red and blue.
buuuuuuttt- marvel couldn't throw any stones, because they were in the middle of the whole spider-clone debacle.
but now?
oh heck, if i was president of MARVEL you know what i'd do?
i'd call a press conferance right--the-f*ck-NOW.
you know what i'd say?
i'd say:
" hey kids... you know what? we gotta a HUUUUGGGE movie comingout called "captain AAAA-MERRRRRRR-IIC-AAAAAAAAA" huh? sounds nice right? you remember iron man right? awesome! and we got this THOR ...looooookssssss preeeettttyy cool huh? well we gotta another one- CAPTAIN AMERICA. and y'know what else - as soon as you calm down after THOR and CAP, yer gonna see AVENGERS- where- again- captain ammeeerrrrrrricccaaa is gonna be in-charge of iron man and thor! yep!
how's that sound?
yeah i thought so.
..ummm, hey...
what's DC doing for you ? ?
ooooohhh that's right!
DC has superman on the roof of the daily planet pissing in your face and saying " you looked thirsty! you're welcome!" that's right.
so kids, which film series are YOU going to get behind? "
then WB would once again collapse in heap.
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Post by Legsy on Apr 29, 2011 0:14:28 GMT -5
And then there were those two bozos... They like having buttsecks with each other. Nothing wrong with it, just a fact. |
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Post by ye5man on Apr 29, 2011 3:35:57 GMT -5
OooooOOooh! C'mon, guys. Another marketing ploy to sell more books. Exactly right. Why are people bothered about a fictional character born on another planet renouncing US citizenship? People leave the US all the time. and you wait, when circulation falls again, he'll return. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 29, 2011 10:33:45 GMT -5
Exactly (Btw- the Captain America story you're mentioning was fantastic- Steve Rogers renounces being Captain America for awhile because he loses faith in America.....but it's just the beginning of a story arc- by the end, he ends up with a great full page monologue about his restored faith and responsibility in/to America).
Is this much different than 'the Death of Superman' that ended up being a moot point? (Or 'Death of Batman'?)
Could end up being a great story by the end, why not wait until reading the whole story (don't need to buy it, could just read it in-store) or storyline before assuming its a 'permanent' (as permanent as comics go anyways) thing?
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 29, 2011 11:13:40 GMT -5
ok, i've done some readin gup, and apparantly in th elarger context superman doesn't want to renounce his citizenship, but feels impelled to because his actions are being construed as an act of war. ( ie - terrorists will do terrible shit anyway, but if we burn korans they feel "excused" ) in THAT sense i see the angle. IF thats true, then i'm getting over it- but it changes the focus of my annoyance. it would clarify that this was, indeed a publicity stunt and needlessly provocative. brilliant move dc  ( and yes, i admit i'm a hothead LOL) |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Apr 29, 2011 11:32:03 GMT -5
OooooOOooh! C'mon, guys. Another marketing ploy to sell more books. I disagree..."Superman revnounces American citizenship! I must start reading that comic now!".....I don't see it. |
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Post by ChrisM on Apr 29, 2011 15:11:24 GMT -5
I have nothing wrong with 2 homosexuals writing a Superman story....
my concern is that WB/Singer felt it was ok to hire 2 boys who most likely were still waiting for their testicles to descend.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2011 15:34:01 GMT -5
I...uh...understand the whole renouncing thing. I kinda agree with it. What is the American Way anymore? And does Superman only help the USA? No. He's global. It makes sense. At the same time, it's unnecessary, but whatever. I get it.
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