Post by Metallo on Dec 26, 2011 18:13:20 GMT -5
Even the worst Superman 2 fan cut is better than the Donner Cut. Thau went out of his way to use alternate takes to give us a different movie. Which is never what we wanted. If he had simply remastered the RIC, re-instated the Brando scenes, and given the rest of Donner's scenes as a supplemental bonus feature, it would've been done PERFECT in only a few months time. Thau is a hack. But FWIW, I blame WB for only giving him a few months to get it done. We've been writing to WB about this for years. And once they started working on SR, they knew they were gonna release TDC. So instead of only a few months, they had a few years to get it done right. They didn't.
Yes, the blame is with WB.
If they wanted a proper movie, they should have given Mr Thau more time, a much bigger team and a bigger budget.
Honestly, when time and budget constraints start to squeeze, it doesn't matter how talented or able the people are.
STM was brilliant for most of the movie. But the ending is retarded, and for that I blame the time constraints and the rush to get it finished. It doesn't mean Donner was no good as a director, simply that the ending was a rush job and it shows.
S4 sucked because the budget was disgraceful. It had all the same actors as STM, yet it was a piece of crap because there was no budget.
The Donner Cut of S2 suffered from not one, but BOTH of these problems. In the same position, with the same budget and the same limited time, I doubt that even Donner could have made a good film.
You make some good points and yes WB deserves to take a lot of the blame because of time and budget constraints but in some instances Thau simply made terrible creative choices. Some of his music choices in the Donner cut are terrible. Take the Niagra falls rescue of the little boy. Some of the musical editing sounds jarring.
As for Superman IV the budget cut was a big issue that hurt the production but the story and script have a lot of problems as well. I know the budget cuts affected post production a lot some some decisions made before and during shooting seemed poor. Some things are just badly done as the deleted scenes showed us. After Clark wakes up from his nightmare at the beginning of the film the entire sequence is awful. Budget couldn't have played nearly as much of a factor there. The film is plagued with scenes like that that are still in.
