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Post by belloq on Aug 19, 2008 21:38:02 GMT -5
I've always been into comic characters and mythologies, but have never really given the actual books the time of day. For one, I used to have a problem getting into the format. Two, a part of me pompously thought that the writing could never compare to my favorite novelists. I picked up Watchmen and have read about half of it. Needless to say, my prejudices with comics were pretty fucking silly. Watchmen holds its own with anything I've ever read. I've also picked up Batman: Year One and The Man Who Laughs and plan to get the rest of the stuff on Val's list in the Batman comic thread. Anyway, long story short, what else do I need to read and what are some of your favs?
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Post by Luke on Aug 20, 2008 3:12:23 GMT -5
Sorry, these are going to be a bit obvious so you've probably thought of them already but they are amongst the best graphic novels ever made. I included Watchmen again although you've already got it just because it deserves mentioning again.  Alan Moore:Watchmen V for Vendetta League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol 1 & 2 Marvelman/Miracleman (Neil Gaiman also had a stint) Batman: The Killing Joke Swamp Thing (all of them) Frank Miller:Batman: The Dark Knight Sin City Jeph Loeb/Tim SaleSpider-Man: Blue Daredevil: Yellow Neil Gaimen:Sandman (all of them) Garth Ennis:Preacher (all of them) David Lapham:Stray Bullets Many, many more by these but those are the best. Also got some others by other writer/artists worth looking at like Matt Wagner's Mage which is a personal favourite of mine if you want more recommendations. Also regarding Alan Moore's Marvelman/Miracleman that I mentioned above. You may be interested in this as it's a sort of precursor to what he did with Watchmen and was written at the same time as V for Vendetta. |
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Post by Luke on Aug 20, 2008 3:47:45 GMT -5
I forgot Stray Bullets
That was pretty thick of me.
I deserve some sort of award for that.
To be honest practically anything by Alan Moore MUST be read. The man has written so many superb stories that I cannot recommend him enough. If you like some of my recommendations of his there are some great stories before America tempted him. V for Vendetta and Marvelman for Warrior being amongst these but also stuff for 2000AD, his Captain Britain and others.
The man is a god.
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Post by ShogunLogan on Aug 20, 2008 10:30:55 GMT -5
Marvelman? Is that the same as Miracleman?
Frank Miller's Daredevil work should be included as well. "Born Again" was superb.
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Post by Luke on Aug 20, 2008 11:30:36 GMT -5
Marvelman? Is that the same as Miracleman? Frank Miller's Daredevil work should be included as well. "Born Again" was superb. Sorry yeah. My bad. I've always called it Marvelman and refuse to call it anything else. I should have said Miracleman. You'd have a hard job finding anything remotely related under the title Marvelman. That said you'll have a hard job finding it under the title of Miracleman as well as, although they where supposed to have sorted out any rights issues some years back and collections of the comics were supposed to be forthcoming, nothing has happened with the title. Despite, apparently, it's amongst the most requested titles. I WAS going to include Dardevil but thought if I include that then I'm going to have to start including Clairmont's X-Men run and other stuff but maybe that doesn't hold up to Miller's Daredevil? Dunno. What about his Daredevil: The Man Without Fear mini series? Sort of a Daredevil: Year one. It was pretty good. Been a while since I read it though. It seemed pretty effective. Anyway I've altered my post to correct my mistake regarding MM. Cheers Logan. |
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Post by Luke on Aug 20, 2008 11:50:24 GMT -5
What about:
Spider-Man: Kraven's Last Hunt
Wolverine mini-series, Claremont/Miller
Punisher mini-series, Mike Zeck art
These were amongst my favourites and think they are still a pretty good read.
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Aug 20, 2008 17:43:37 GMT -5
Identity Crisis has become my new Go-to for a "graphic novel". The miniseries added an adult twist to the heroes of the DCU without radically changing much in the characterizations of them.
I also believe that Alan Moore's Supreme stint, now in collected editions, is a good example of his re-constructionist writing post-Watchmen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 21:23:04 GMT -5
Identity Crisis is pretty incredible.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Aug 21, 2008 21:51:17 GMT -5
Identity Crisis is great, but it's a bit gloomy for me. It doesn't quite hold up on repeated reads. I mean, I still like it, don't get me wrong...it just seems they're shoehorning overly adult themes into characters that they don't necessarily belong in. I'm fine with it, but every hack-ass writer at DC decided to start referencing these events in their books until it's like...ENOUGH!
However, back when Frank Miller had a soul, before he was sniffing his own farts and calling himself a "graphic novelist", he wrote a Daredevil story called "BORN AGAIN", which is pretty much the best thing he ever wrote. Same artist as Batman Year One. You don't need to know anything about Daredevil other than what you may know from the movie or whatever to dig this.
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Post by belloq on Aug 24, 2008 2:25:54 GMT -5
well, i'll definitely be picking up some of these titles (just got sandman vol 1). thanks and keep them coming if you think of any more. i'll let you know what i think as i read them. watchmen really gave me a kick in the balls. if any of this stuff is half as good as it, i'll be happy.
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Post by belloq on Sept 2, 2008 2:27:23 GMT -5
read sandman vol 1. enjoyed it much more than i excpected. makes me want to check out heckblazer.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Dec 7, 2008 20:33:07 GMT -5
THE GOLDEN AGE
elseworlds version of justice society.
very sharp.
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Post by albertd on Dec 8, 2008 13:14:10 GMT -5
I have only one graphic novel and maybe it's one of the best ever made: The Death Of Captain Marvel. I think it was the very first time a comic book superhero passed away. A really great album, but of course the story is very sad. Captain Marvel died of cancer (Oops!.. Spoiler here!  )and obviously aids was not a very well-known disease. His worst enemy, Thanos, resurrected him in a "dream". But Marvel was already in a coma and he never got out. Almost each and every Marvel Comics superhero paid him his last respects. Marvel also got a medal from a Kree-warrior, but he didn´t want to accept it.  |
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Post by supes78 on Dec 8, 2008 18:51:24 GMT -5
I can't believe noone has mentioned Kingdom Come yet. I actually got a few friends of mine into comics after letting them each borrow it.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Dec 19, 2008 15:14:35 GMT -5
I can't believe noone has mentioned Kingdom Come yet. I actually got a few friends of mine into comics after letting them each borrow it. so obvious i forgot. |
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Post by The Phantom Menace on Dec 25, 2008 0:47:39 GMT -5
Has anyone here read the X-Men graphic novel God Loves, Man Kills? I'm tempted to buy since I've heard it was the inspiration for the plot of X2.
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)and obviously aids was not a very well-known disease. His worst enemy, Thanos, resurrected him in a "dream". But Marvel was already in a coma and he never got out. Almost each and every Marvel Comics superhero paid him his last respects. Marvel also got a medal from a Kree-warrior, but he didn´t want to accept it.
