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Post by hursty on Feb 29, 2012 5:23:25 GMT -5
Can someobody explain to me what this means in relation to the villains in STM and SII...?
I always thought camp meant effeminate, there's surely nothing effeminate about Lex or Zod?
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Post by booshman on Feb 29, 2012 5:30:32 GMT -5
Can someobody explain to me what this means in relation to the villains in STM and SII...? I always thought camp meant effeminate, there's surely nothing effeminate about Lex or Zod? From wiki: "Camp is an aesthetic sensibility that regards something as appealing or humorous because of its deliberate ridiculousness.[1] The concept is closely related to kitsch, and things with camp appeal may also be described as being "cheesy". When the usage appeared, in 1909, it denoted: ostentatious, exaggerated, affected, theatrical, and effeminate behaviour, and, by the middle of the 1970s, the definition comprised: banality, artifice, mediocrity, and ostentation so extreme as to have perversely sophisticated appeal.[2] American writer Susan Sontag's essay Notes on "Camp" (1964) emphasised its key elements as: artifice, frivolity, naïve middle-class pretentiousness, and ‘shocking’ excess. Camp as an aesthetic has been popular from the 1960s to the present." |
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Post by hursty on Feb 29, 2012 5:57:49 GMT -5
Strange how that definition bears no resemblance to what camp seems to mean today
To act camp, certainly here in the UK, means practically that you are gay.
I still don't see how Zod fits that mould, but yeah, by that context, Otis and Teschmacher would force Lex into that sort of thing.
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Post by ye5man on Feb 29, 2012 6:08:05 GMT -5
Yeah, in the UK camp = effeminate Like this guy  |
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Post by hursty on Feb 29, 2012 6:17:57 GMT -5
Alan Carr?
Graham Norton?
Julian Clary?
Harry Hill!
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 29, 2012 12:03:42 GMT -5
Yeah... that's the difference between Lester's approach to the villains versus Donner's. Donner took them seriously.
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Post by MerM on Feb 29, 2012 13:45:40 GMT -5
Well, the term comes from a French slang term, "se camper" (to pose, play up, etc).
And of course, doesn't get much gayer than gay Paree. ;D
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Post by atp on Feb 29, 2012 16:28:49 GMT -5
This is my favorite camp villain.  |
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Post by Jason Voorhees007 on Feb 29, 2012 19:38:13 GMT -5
There's nothing camp about me, bitch.  |
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