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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 16, 2012 20:37:32 GMT -5
I've heard in these parts that some people prefer SIV to SR and was curious to how many people here actually do.
Was there already an actual poll?
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Post by Metallo on Mar 16, 2012 21:34:10 GMT -5
Superman Returns is the better film in almost every way (I voted for it) but I enjoy SIV more despite all its many many MANY flaws. Does that make any kind of sense?
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Post by Costa del Lex on Mar 16, 2012 21:56:15 GMT -5
Both are pieces of shit in my opinion, but for different reasons. The size and smell of their shit is different. Superman Returns could have been so awesome and should have been... but it wasn't. I know some here love it though and it's been argued to death.
Superman IV is garbage and doesn't even have one decent sequence to save it (like how Superman III sort of does). However, it does have one thing... Christopher Reeve. It also has better music, so I give the nod based on that. Nothing to brag about though, they both suck in my book and I'll never revisit either.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure both will be better than Man Of Steel...
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Mar 16, 2012 22:05:11 GMT -5
fuck.
this.
shit.
we buried it six years ago.
"superman 4 had chris reeve"
it's like saying a "cult" is ok, because at least it had jesus.
fuck.
superman4 is irredeemable garbage. i don't care who showed up to phone it in.
returns may not have given you multiple orgasms, but the professional calibre that superman merits was there.
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Post by Costa del Lex on Mar 16, 2012 22:35:34 GMT -5
returns may not have given you multiple orgasms, but the professional calibre that superman merits was there. I must have gone to take a leak during that part, because I didn't see anything like that. Seriously, I don't really care about either film... they are both crap. Picking one over the other is like asking me if I want to be stabbed or shot. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 22:36:21 GMT -5
If I had to watch either one of them at any point, I'd choose SIV easy.
I know its shit but its for me, more entertaining and far less depressing than SR.
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Post by Jimbo on Mar 17, 2012 0:49:01 GMT -5
Superman IV has a better musical score than SR.....and that's about it.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 17, 2012 1:55:24 GMT -5
Can't believe that this is even a debate. Oh well.... to each his/her own...  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 2:18:59 GMT -5
What CAM said.
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Post by Shane on Mar 17, 2012 5:29:51 GMT -5
far out this place is getting worse
sr came out 6 years ago and people who didnt like it just cant get over it and yes chris reeve wasn't in it so it was shit
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 17, 2012 6:44:20 GMT -5
far out this place is getting worse sr came out 6 years ago and people who didnt like it just cant get over it and yes chris reeve wasn't in it so it was shit Ok, how is this place getting worse??? Or have you forgotten? You remember when there was a little group here who actually preferred SIV to STM? I think General Zod (the board member) was the "leader" of that. He even had a sig with all the board members names who loved SIV. It was a picture of Clark by the farm in SIV and the title was SIV Fans Forever. |
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Post by Metallo on Mar 17, 2012 8:12:47 GMT -5
At least SIV and SR can both look at Batman & Robin and make fun of it. They've always got that going for them. of course I'm just waiting for the person who says SR is as bad as Batman & Robin. It's bound to happen  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 17, 2012 10:16:31 GMT -5
Threads come and go, having this thing exist doesn't really bug me, but I think it's a bit silly, that's all. I do think, though, that eventually there will be one that compares SR to lung cancer....  |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Mar 17, 2012 11:58:04 GMT -5
Superman IV has a better musical score than SR.....and that's about it. i dont think i'd even go that far...  A t least SIV and SR can both look at Batman & Robin and make fun of it. They've always got that going for them.of course I'm just waiting for the person who says SR is as bad as Batman & Robin. It's bound to happen ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 19:49:09 GMT -5
far out this place is getting worse sr came out 6 years ago and people who didnt like it just cant get over it and yes chris reeve wasn't in it so it was shit Presumptuous. Some people generally don't think its a good film. Pretty much proven but the way the whole films release and reception seemed like a non event |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Mar 17, 2012 19:50:27 GMT -5
I do think, though, that eventually there will be one that compares SR to lung cancer.... Well, not yet, thank goodness... |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 17, 2012 19:53:57 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D
Would you like a drink?
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Post by MerM on Mar 17, 2012 21:44:26 GMT -5
Superman IV has a better musical score than SR.....and that's about it. Yeah... no. ;D S4's music is a little overrated, imo. As for the two movies... SR is a mix of good ideas, bad ideas and inconsistent execution. S4 is a piece of shit. |
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 17, 2012 22:49:59 GMT -5
SR was ok, but it should've been way better.
I really don't get how a filmmaker with such obvious good intentions and respect for the material could make such an underachieving film. And when you take that and take into account that he did a magnificent job with the first two X-Men films, you wind up with a perfect riddle.
SIV is worse, but I'll probably watch it more times in my lifetime simply because of Reeve and Hackman being in those roles.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 17, 2012 23:44:46 GMT -5
Singers entire filmmaking style and his life experiences were simply better suited to crafting X-men films than Superman films.
Superman's an outsider but not so much that he feels so keenly self conscious and ostracized because of it. He's accepted by the public while The X-men are shunned. That alone makes for a different tone to the stories and the mindset of the characters.
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Post by Shane on Mar 18, 2012 2:15:48 GMT -5
far out this place is getting worse sr came out 6 years ago and people who didnt like it just cant get over it and yes chris reeve wasn't in it so it was shit Ok, how is this place getting worse??? Or have you forgotten? You remember when there was a little group here who actually preferred SIV to STM? I think General Zod (the board member) was the "leader" of that. He even had a sig with all the board members names who loved SIV. It was a picture of Clark by the farm in SIV and the title was SIV Fans Forever. just get over it |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 18, 2012 4:24:02 GMT -5
To me, the only/main thing missing was juiced up superhero action.... considering the amount of money put in (even if it's debatable what the real budget is), I think the studio was wrong not to pressure Singer to include fresher bits of Superman in action or a superpowered action sequence- the screenwriter was pushing for a superpowered fistfight, and I agree it would have energized the movie quite a bit.
The introspection I was totally fine with, but having that AND a real-estate driven Lex made the film not nearly as strong as I feel it could have been. Saving the big action for part two was being too overconfident..... *sigh*
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Post by EnriqueH on Mar 18, 2012 6:27:10 GMT -5
Ok, how is this place getting worse??? Or have you forgotten? You remember when there was a little group here who actually preferred SIV to STM? I think General Zod (the board member) was the "leader" of that. He even had a sig with all the board members names who loved SIV. It was a picture of Clark by the farm in SIV and the title was SIV Fans Forever. just get over it Get over what? Exactly? |
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Post by Tristan D on Mar 18, 2012 13:16:51 GMT -5
Actually, I will agree that SIV's score is better than SR's. While SR has flashes of brilliance, SIV really does deliver a consistently invigorating score with its own identity, but also expanding upon the existing themes (rather than just quoting them verbatim).
That's about it's only upper hand though.
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Post by stargazer01 on Mar 18, 2012 13:49:51 GMT -5
This poll is clearly a sad joke for anyone with some taste in decent filmmaking. I won't even vote because it's an absurd poll, period. All this hate is unwarranted.
SR is a good film, while SIV is a joke. Not even Reeve can save it, yes even he phoned in his performance and didn't even train to get in S shape. It was just a pay check, nothing more. Sorry but I call it as I see it.
I don't get this at all. I think the opposite is true.
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