"Clark Kent quits reporting at the Daily Planet"

[ye5man]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20050483

[ShogunLogan]

Just wait...just wait...

"He's gay"

It'll happen.

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Devastating!

Except for...y'know...the fact that he's not worked at the Daily Planet COUNTLESS times for YEARS in the past, but...whatever...

[Valentine Smith]

yawn.

[MAVERICK]

Sits back & quietly waits for the next Crisis on whatever / Armageddon 2001 / Zero Hour / Un-52 /

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Oh, hecks bells, you think that could happen? An UN52?!? I mean...it easily could, truly...

Christ. I'm done with new comics. Fuck'em.

[Valentine Smith]

Not happening anytime soon, if ever. And even if it does, I wouldn't count on them changing Superman's costume back to "the classic." They may change it again, but DC doubled down pretty hard on this, it's over a year in and the numbers are strong, and they're gonna go for it.

Regardless, it won't take anything like that to get Clark back at the Planet. This is one storyline that I guarantee you will be resolved before May.

[ye5man]

Didn't they actually kill of Superman at one point? ;D

Besides, 30 years ago he was working as a news anchor!

Still, good to see some exposure I guess



Sorry, I don't really care anymore. The Marvel Universe has dethroned DC.

[EnriqueH]

I'm sick of comics.

Everytime I follow a title, I gotta follow 3 or 4 more.

[atp]

Man, he comes right out of a comic book.

[Paul (ral)]

Oct 24, 2012 14:14:46 GMT -5 EnriqueH said:

I'm sick of comics.

Everytime I follow a title, I gotta follow 3 or 4 more.

Very true. Every arc in Batman is gonna be a crossover event now by the looks of it.

[crazy_asian_man]

yawn.

I second that yawn.


I wish I could find the Geoff Johns interview about writing for Superman comics; paraphrasing - he said something to the effect that writers would come in over the years, trying to change everything thinking that it would improve or 'fix' the premise, when, in fact, he felt that nothing was wrong with the environment or the premise in the first place.

Almost as if proving his point, in looking at the stuff Johns' wrote for Superman, it always amazed me how he would go back to what was essentially there in the older comics and just make it feel fresh without trying to ret-con any of the material, but include as much as he could in the continuity.

It's not the changes that make Superman comics exciting, I think, so much as just how much a writer gets what makes the material exciting 'as is' in the first place.

[Matt in the Hat]

I liked Clark Kent, editor of Newstime Magazine. But that's me. Twas briefly enjoyed.

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In reality, the Daily Planet's corporate parent would have laid off Clark, demoted Lois, scaled back to three-days-per-week publication of the print edition, and put up a paywall for the website.

[Kirok]

This makes sense in context of the New 52. The Daily Planet is part of a conglomerate run by Morgan Edge, and isn't the paper it used to be. I see this storyline going the way of Clark going outside "the system" to "bring down the man." Could be good character development for Clak Kent as a journalist and fighting for truth, justice and the American Way outside of his costume.

What might also be a factor is distancing the character even further from his Siegel & Shuster roots (not the Daily Planer per day, but the career in journalism) in resposne to current or potential future lawsuits. Just a thought...

[Valentine Smith]

None of these changes, new 52 or otherwise, have ever had anything to do with the S&S lawsuit(s). Especially since WB has won, and will win the rest of them.

[Kirok]

Perhaps, but as I understand it part of the reason behind the Electric Superman in the 90s was due to legal stuff with the creators' estates and DC wanting to distance the character as much as possible from his original incarnation at that time. So it wouldn't be completely unheard of.

Of course I might be completely off base with that. Just something I read on the internet.

[Valentine Smith]

"Electric Superman" came at the height of the "gimmick storyline" era in comics, and was one of the more ill-advised ones, but it had nothing to do with this stuff.

[zarius]

I remember when Clark, under the influence of the Eradicator, quit and became a trolling god at Newstime.

[cypher85]

Anyone actually read the issue? I thought it was actually quite good. I was not looking forward to lobdell coming onto the title, but so far I have enjoyed his two issues quite a bit. And the art is pretty good too. It's different but I like it.

[Jor-L5150]

Oct 23, 2012 22:23:02 GMT -5 @ucfkevin said:

Oh, hecks bells, you think that could happen? An UN52?!? I mean...it easily could, truly...

Christ. I'm done with new comics. Fuck'em.

INEVITABLE.

[Valentine Smith]

No it's not. In fact, it's unlikely.

While I'm not saying there will never again be wholesale changes to the DC Universe, the odds of them going back to the 1986-2011 status quo are pretty close to zero.

Let's examine the evidence:

1) Superman was by far the most affected by the reboot. Not only are they sticking with this for the moment, they're launching a third high-profile Superman title in May or June, written by Scott Snyder with art by Jim Lee. That's a-list talent on a book designed specifically to raise DC's profile in time for MoS to hit screens. It is firmly a New 52 Superman title. Since really, the only appreciable difference between "this" Superman and the "classic" Superman is the costume, and since DC has been trying to modify the costume for years, don't expect a return to the red trunks. And don't cite the marriage, either. DC has been uncomfortable with the marriage for a decade, and no matter WHAT, that ain't coming back.

2) Earth-2. DC has been uncomfortable with the JSA's WWII roots for years now, as it's tough justifying characters who would be nearly 100 years old running around, and explaining why there was no "heroic age" for forty or fifty years. This is staying.

3) Batman and Green Lantern, two of the highest profile, highest selling book franchises, weren't even rebooted. No need to re-reboot.

4) The Flash. I wouldn't count on DC going back to a universe where there are three or four guys with the same name running around. They wanted Barry back, they brought him back, and now he's the one and only. Expect it to stay this way.

5) Nobody gave a crap about the Justice League's origin EVER until now. While Justice League is a dreadful comic, the numbers speak for themselves. And speaking of numbers...

6) DC's sales numbers are stronger than they've been in YEARS. Many years, actually. Money talks. And it's a year and a half into this. This is no longer a "stunt." It's the status quo, and will remain so for as long as sales are strong...and even then it'll take awhile to implement more changes.

In other words, while I don't doubt that there will be another "continuity altering mega-event" in DC's future (it's inevitable), I can say with virtual certainty that it will not be an "Un-52." You will NEVER see married Clark & Lois again, unless it's to show that the old universe still exists somewhere in the multiverse. I'm not willing to say "never" on the red trunks, but I'd say it's likely those ain't coming back.

So, things may change again in the future, but they ain't ever going back to the way they were. Maybe there'd be a chance of that if they didn't keep rolling out new titles every couple of months, but with 52-60 books a month on the stands continually reinforcing the new status quo, there's no unpushing that button. Love it or hate it, it's here to stay.

[Jor-L5150]

Nov 10, 2012 14:19:53 GMT -5 Valentine Smith said:

In other words, while I don't doubt that there will be another "continuity altering mega-event" in DC's future (it's inevitable), I can say with virtual certainty that it will not be an "Un-52." You will NEVER see married Clark & Lois again, unless it's to show that the old universe still exists somewhere in the multiverse. I'm not willing to say "never" on the red trunks, but I'd say it's likely those ain't coming back.

So, things may change again in the future, but they ain't ever going back to the way they were. Maybe there'd be a chance of that if they didn't keep rolling out new titles every couple of months, but with 52-60 books a month on the stands continually reinforcing the new status quo, there's no unpushing that button. Love it or hate it, it's here to stay.

that is precisely what i meant.

i have zero doubt that "pocket/multi-verses" will give us throw backs to old continuities just like "CRISIS on infinite earths" put the JSA in limbo for several years only to have them re-inserted into a precursor to then-current continuity, CRISIS also had "original/earth-2" superman in a pocket universe untill "the kingdom" suggested he was trying to get back (which he eventually did).

so, no i don't think they'll say "wow, that was terrible- let's scrap it and go back" these are the people who still won;t acknowledge that twin-electric supermEn were a terrible idea.

but there is no such thing as a permanent continuity, old continuities always come back, dead characters resurrect, origins revamp, and there's always another "CRISIS".