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Post by botz1 on Feb 2, 2013 16:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by Valentine Smith on Feb 2, 2013 16:26:30 GMT -5
I actually remember watching this THE NIGHT IT AIRED.
Holy shit, I'm old.
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Post by botz1 on Feb 2, 2013 16:37:59 GMT -5
haha
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Post by Kirok on Feb 2, 2013 18:44:36 GMT -5
I'd never seen that before, thanks for sharing!
The video quality is amazing! Did Bowers get the master tape from Entertainment Tonight or something? As for the actual content, really interesting to see the on-set bits, and how invested Reeve seemed to be. Such a shame things ended up the way they did. It makes his last statement in the piece both really depressing and absolutely absurd.
And way wasn't this on the DVD release? For shame, WB.
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Post by Ollie W on Feb 3, 2013 0:21:18 GMT -5
Great video and ditto about the awesome video quality.  |
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Post by booshman on Feb 3, 2013 0:57:17 GMT -5
Cool video. Looks like Reeve was running a one man show on set.
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Post by Paul (ral) on Feb 3, 2013 6:45:59 GMT -5
ET released this on their site over a year ago. We all talked about it then...don't you guys remember?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 3, 2013 18:10:40 GMT -5
Originally I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Reeve wanted to direct the whole film--- but Canon didn't want him to, and a compromise was that he was able to direct the 'battle on the moon' sequence.
From a biography on Reeve- with interviews of others on SIV, Reeve wasn't happy at all with the budget slash (who would be?) and seemed to know it was doomed--- Marc McClure in Starlog I think was quoted as asking Reeve about Superman V, but Reeve had just remarked, "We'll see how this one goes" grimly.
Given the situation- I was always wondering what Sidney Furie's take on the shoot was---- I know Reeve at that point in his career was a little desperate for a career comeback (he was irked that he had to go to auditions as the "Superman" glow originally let him bypass that, but those benefits had started to fade) and REALLY wanted SIV to work....
At the same time, Sydney Furie was quoted in Starlog as having criticized Superman III before going into SIV to a WB exec (who scoffed at Furie, as SIII made a profit albeit modest for them), and wanting SIV to be great.
So, we get the sense both Furie and Reeve wanted greatness- but given the pressure and the budget slash, who knows how things must have been on-set? Reeve must have been on the edge of exploding with all the frustration (though his performance is still one of the best things about SIV).... and Furie had the successful but extremely lame low-budget 'Iron Eagle' as his most recent success to point to.
Did they get along? Were there creative battles with all the stress and no money/time?
Being hungry for that stuff, REALLY would have loved a commentary by Furie. Given how many comebacks there are in Hollywood, I'd be curious if SIV really destroyed his career, or if there was something more during the process that made him walk away from it.
He's still alive, maybe eventually we'll read something about it?
Man, talking about this, I REALLY hope we get some new stuff about the Donner films with MOS' dvd release. Anything. Anything!
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Post by Kirok on Feb 3, 2013 23:39:29 GMT -5
ET released this on their site over a year ago. We all talked about it then...don't you guys remember? I was on a hiatus from the board for a while so it must have been while I was gone. The gap between what SIV could have been and what it ended up being is enormous, granted. But even with the proper care and an appropriate budget, Nuclear Man alone would've kept the film from being taken seriously. Now, if they'd made his character Bizarro they might've been okay. |
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Post by atp on Feb 4, 2013 3:12:14 GMT -5
But even with the proper care and an appropriate budget, Nuclear Man alone would've kept the film from being taken seriously. I agree. At least, MOS isn't going to feature silliness like robot armies. Oh wait.... |
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Post by Kirok on Feb 4, 2013 9:21:24 GMT -5
Robot armies are a classic Superman staple. I'm excited to finally see it in live action. Equating them to Nuclear Man is not an apt comparison.
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Post by Paul (ral) on Feb 4, 2013 10:32:33 GMT -5
Whoah!!! What's with the fuckin' spoilers all of a sudden guys? I'm avoiding that thread for a reason!
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Post by Kirok on Feb 4, 2013 12:27:22 GMT -5
Didn't mean to spoil anything, I'm avoiding that thread myself! I just thought the robot army was specualtion based on the toys and toy commercials.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 4, 2013 13:42:33 GMT -5
I think that's what the first Nuclear Man sort of is, but it was badly played for comedy. As far as Nuclear Man 2, in reading the script before the movie came out, I recall imagining Nuclear Man possibly looking as alien and chilling as the t-1000 was at the time from Terminator 2.... So I think it COULD have worked, just as Donner made Ursa scary as heck in SII- a stronger director could have found better ways to conceptualize NM2. But--- even so, half of the time the budget made it look like a cardboard cut out of Reeve was flying against the backdrop--- so, it's possible NO director could have saved that project with that budget.  |
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 4, 2013 16:18:36 GMT -5
But even with the proper care and an appropriate budget, Nuclear Man alone would've kept the film from being taken seriously. I agree. At least, MOS isn't going to feature silliness like robot armies. Oh wait.... Didn't mean to spoil anything, I'm avoiding that thread myself! I just thought the robot army was specualtion based on the toys and toy commercials. ATP technically spoiled it, not you.  |
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Post by downwithrouth on Feb 4, 2013 18:28:22 GMT -5
But even with the proper care and an appropriate budget, Nuclear Man alone would've kept the film from being taken seriously. I agree. At least, MOS isn't going to feature silliness like robot armies. Oh wait....  Care to try that again? Especially since the above image is from a story at least partially based on what would have been Donner's Superman III? |
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