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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 21, 2011 4:30:11 GMT -5
Those distribution companies sound pretty....obscure.
It's hard to believe that Routh's leading film wouldn't get a big distributor. Maybe the powers that be waited too long to release it after SR?
Reeve's star began to fall (not through any inadequacy on acting or laziness- he was still very aggressive in pursuing projects up until the accident) a number of years after STM. Some projects obviously better than others (in an interview he only counted STM & Somewhere in Time as the movies that would last that he'd done.).... but still..... he was still considered (by Hollywood career standards) 'hot' for awhile & in demand.
If this doesn't get a regular release, then to have Routh relegated to a B-level status so quickly..... *sigh*
I'm still holding out hope that maybe the people at WB change seats & Routh (if not for the Snyder version) gets another chance at Supes later on.....
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 21, 2011 4:35:54 GMT -5
BTW- viewed the trailer. Looks like fun....but.... the main reason I'd go see it is for Routh. Aside from Routh, it doesn't seem (from the trailer) like anything that hasn't been introduced on tv (via Buffy or Angel or other scifi tv shows) Sam Huntington (sp?) in it, is a nice bonus, though. If we can't have MOS, then I guess this is the closest thing to a reunion on film of sorts....
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Post by ye5man on Feb 21, 2011 6:18:25 GMT -5
Been 5 years now since SR; I don't think the guy pursued projects aggressively enough or perhaps believed he would reprise the role again and so sort of waited in there.
I don't think we'll be seeing him in another starring role now sadly. Too bad, he's a good guy.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 21, 2011 15:32:17 GMT -5
It's very screwed. I have a hunch that he passed on a number of roles thinking that he had to be in 'standby' mode for MOS.
Not that I want terrible things to happen to people, but if for some reason Henry Cavill and Snyder get avian flu two days before shooting, I would HOPE that WB is smart enough to use Brandon as a backup, if they weren't wise enough to have him return in the first place.
Cavill could be good, but what about all the training with the flying/etc.? Waste of time, when there's someone who's already been there who WANTS the job.
With Donner's firing, at least we know the reason why: it was a friendship choice, and one gets it. If WB had its way, (according to the docs) supposedly they would have fought to keep him.
But with Brandon's firing (essentially that's what it is), he was as responsible as Singer for bringing in the $$$ for SR.
Pfah. I thought WB was dumb when they didn't go with Singer for MOS. Removing Brandon as well is ridiculous, considering how well (overall) he was received.
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 21, 2011 16:38:04 GMT -5
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Post by ye5man on Feb 21, 2011 16:53:53 GMT -5
Yeah, definitely. Probably part of his contract.
Still got to see S.P. I downloaded bought it ages ago but still not seen it. I dunno, it just doesn't interest me
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 21, 2011 21:43:43 GMT -5
You're missing out. I wasn't a fan of the comic book (I didn't get the tone of it, seemed weird)- but LOVE the movie.
I get why it bombed. The trailers make it look like yet another bad videogame-to-movie adaptation. They didn't market it properly.
It's a very sincere ANTI-'youth' picture. If you HATE those 'coming of age' pictures, where teen romance is life/death, this movie takes those sincere teen romantic feelings at that age and slaps the characters silly and mocks them for those self-obsessed pretentions and notions.
It's incredibly funny, because the filmmakers KNOW how myopic and melodramatic that age is, and has smart fun with it. It's a very intelligent comedy, but disguised as a teen flick. For those who hate 'teen flicks', you'll love it. Plus, Brandon plays a character who's a real dick in the movie (and is HILARIOUS in it).
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Post by ye5man on Feb 22, 2011 5:34:05 GMT -5
That's a great sales pitch; I appreciate intelligent satire so perhaps I will like it. You're right about the trailer. A young guy has to kill several exes to win the girl (I know its a comedy). Sounds boring. I'll deffo check it out someday, but I need to be in the right mood.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2011 12:24:43 GMT -5
I bought Scott Pilgrim but mostly because Edgar Wright actually took the time to write to me on Twitter about not seeing it yet.
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 22, 2011 12:46:55 GMT -5
I bought Scott Pilgrim but mostly because Edgar Wright actually took the time to write to me on Twitter about not seeing it yet. Really? What did he say? I agree. I think there is a lot going for this film, I mean, the entire cast totally NAIL their parts, the dialogue is great and highly quotable, the action and FX are GREAT, the music ROCKS, and last but not least, there is a more serious story going throughout all the laughs and 'noise'. The movie has heart, lots of it, imo. It's a true original. That's rare nowdays.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 17:35:54 GMT -5
He tweeted that people are apologizing to him for not seeing Scott Pilgrim until recently and this one woman was adamant about it, so I wrote to him, "I haven't seen it yet and I'm not apologizing. In fact, whenever I do get around to see it, I plan to berate you for letting me go so long."
He wrote back, "hey man, i couldn't have plugged it any more on her, so don't berate me - hope you enjoy."
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 26, 2011 0:36:34 GMT -5
;D
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 27, 2011 13:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by Keith on Feb 28, 2011 13:55:59 GMT -5
Thats a cool poster. I noticed on IMDB that there is a USA release date for Dylan Dog. April 29th 2011.
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 28, 2011 16:35:25 GMT -5
Thats a cool poster. I noticed on IMDB that there is a USA release date for Dylan Dog. April 29th 2011. Yup, I already commented it on it a few posts back.
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Post by EvilSupes on Mar 1, 2011 9:06:08 GMT -5
Hi Star. Does Brandon have any other movies coming out? I saw an episode of Chuck the other day and he was pretty good in them action scenes. Can definitely see potential in him for action movie roles.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 1, 2011 9:37:51 GMT -5
I have a hunch that, like Reeve, his size and look make it a bit of a challenge to find proper leading roles. Reeve's advantage was that he still had Superman II to keep his star shining for awhile, whereas waiting for MOS probably killed the momentum. Brandon picked some great supporting roles, though. With Scott Pilgrim and Chuck, (when it was a good show), I think he's 2 for 2, but I also wonder if it's Reeve's giant stage resume that helped get him to be able to work for other strong directors as well. In any case, if we're disappointed Routh's not returning, it's got to be a million times worse for Brandon's camp.
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Post by stargazer01 on Mar 1, 2011 13:29:30 GMT -5
Hi Star. Does Brandon have any other movies coming out? I saw an episode of Chuck the other day and he was pretty good in them action scenes. Can definitely see potential in him for action movie roles. Hi! Did you see Scott Pilgrim and all of Chuck season 3? He can also do drama and comedy really well, imo. I think one of his best dramatic scenes (outside of Superman Returns) so far was in episode 13 of Chuck ("Chuck VS the Other Guy"). Really great episode. I think he has shown to be a versatile actor. As for new movies coming out, well, he recently shot an indie with his wife called "Missing William." I think it's a drama, sounds interesting, but I don't know yet the release date.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 1, 2011 14:21:51 GMT -5
hecko!
I purchased all 3 seasons and (ugh) viewed parts of season 4. He was VERY good in it. (As discussed before, it's really a pity that season 3 didn't play out as planned, with the season order being changed out at the last minute, but that's another story).
There's a long history of actors who have great charisma and talent, but don't find 'the' roles that necessarily give them the opportunity to maximize their gifts while they're in their prime.
Annette O'Toole I'd have to say is one of them- even though she's been around doing many films, there's not too many films she's done that people can point to, and rave about.
I'm sure that Routh (like most actors out there) is aware of the clock ticking on how long he's considered 'marketable'- (Reeve certainly seemed aware of it in his autobiographies) in Hollywood, hopefully he & his agent can figure out what properties (or scripts) he should develop that would best fit him & develop for himself, if Hollywood doesn't offer him enough suitable projects.
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Post by stargazer01 on Mar 2, 2011 0:34:55 GMT -5
Hey! ;D Well I think season 3 turned out really good overall. Sure the pacing and execution could have been a bit better but it is still my favorite season, and not just because Brandon is in it, but because to me it's the most adventurous and compelling one out of all the four seasons. The stakes were also higher than ever before. I've read many reviews/blogs on the season, and many consider the second part (the extension) the best run in the whole series. The last 3 episodes are very strong, imo. The cliffhanger at the end of the last episode about Chuck's mom was really good I think. Unfortunately, season 4 didn't deliver. They, sadly, focused in the Chuck and Sarah romance instead of on Chuck's journey as a hero. He was supposed to be the next Orion. That's what the season 3 ending hinted at. Agreed. I guess it's not just about the talent, but there are also other factors at play like finding a very smart agent, knowing the right people at the right time, and just old plain luck. People like Jessica Alba (who is a bad actress, imo) are pretty lucky I guess.. she keeps working, though mostly in not very good films. Well he's only 31 right now, so he still has some time I guess. It's worse for women.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 2, 2011 11:00:00 GMT -5
True, true. Also, it seems that most of the guys that are chosen to play Superman (to their credit) leave pretty 'clean' lifestyles, so NOT burning themselves out overpartying or on drugs before they turn 40 keeps them pretty well-preserved for a longer career!
(*It was nice to hear from a friend who covered the "Superman Returns" premiere in Hollywood that he had seen most of the actors who played Superman there & that they all had aged pretty well!)
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Post by stargazer01 on Mar 2, 2011 11:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 2, 2011 19:10:00 GMT -5
She's a pretty face.....I was suprised that my tween students really like her, so she is popular with the VERY young. But she can't act, I agree.... but that hasn't stopped Arnold Scharzeneggar (sp?) or Keanu from being incredibly successful in Hollywood, so being able to act isn't a prerequisite to being a movie star, apparently.
Not to imply Brandon can't act- he was great in those parts, but Reeve (from what I've read) has had more classical acting training than most from early on, and even HE had problems gaining what he wanted in Hollywood when he was 'hot'.
Reeve even admitted his own bitterness openly in his autobios in having to audition in Hollywood when the Superman star started to fade.
Hopefully, Brandon will end up with a successful career of sorts if it's not going to be Superman. I'd HATE to see him end up as a bitter actor at comic conventions, trying to make a buck by selling autographs. (I don't blame those actors, but it's just....sad.)
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Post by ye5man on Mar 3, 2011 8:54:59 GMT -5
Not quite true. Reeve had a lot of good offers but turned them all down to play in low budget character pieces. He never wanted to play another hero after STM. If he'd have been smart, he'd have known to do a few commercial films inbetween what we wanted to do (like Ewan McDonald McGregor or Dame Judi Dench). He was foremost a stage actor and I guess he preferred to bring those stage roles to the screen.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 3, 2011 10:37:54 GMT -5
You worded it better. I should have elaborated, you're right- he didn't WANT to be an action hero, but an "ACTOR" (capital letters). He wasn't offered anything he wanted, but offered stuff he wasn't crazy about, for the most part. (*although others would have killed for those opportunities, agreed)
The point I was trying to highlight was that Reeve talked about the time period when he was 'hot', that he didn't get artistically fulfilled with a snap of the finger just because of Superman.
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