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Post by Metallo on Jun 21, 2013 16:54:16 GMT -5
They both seem like great guys. Routh really is like Clark Kent. Cain's pretty funny. His joke about Batmans costume kinda backfired on him though. Foot meet mouth.
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Post by Jack Tripper on Jun 22, 2013 1:17:27 GMT -5
Speaking of dean cain...
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Post by Metallo on Jun 22, 2013 6:17:15 GMT -5
"Dean, You're still my Superman...after Christopher Reeve."  Cain's a good sport. Not afraid to poke fun at himself. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 22, 2013 12:00:09 GMT -5
Hilarious! Great bit. In interviews and commentaries, Cain seems like someone who enjoyed his time as Supes, but never put all his eggs in one basket.
It's ironic/possible that he may have had a better experience (overall) in Hollywood as a short-lived tv Superman than Reeve, who was the 'global movie star' Superman.
Reeve may have gotten the big budget movie star treatment for a number of years---- but Reeve also seemed very angry and bitter about his Hollywood experience about it prior to the accident*, despite having arguably more success in Hwood than Cain (*abbreviated some of what's in Reeve's memoirs)...
Hopefully Routh will transition gracefully, too- wherever his career goes from here.
(I do wonder.... what do these guys do to pay the rent in Hwood when we don't see them onscreen anymore, outside of the rare tv talk show appearances?)
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 22, 2013 12:05:39 GMT -5
Thanks for putting the video up!
Routh just on the golf cart does have a casual charisma to him, seems very down to earth.
The 2nd video was great.... Cain really seems comfortable entertaining a crowd, not every actor can entertain a convention crowd- very cool!
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Post by atp on Jun 22, 2013 12:55:49 GMT -5
Imagine if someone with a lot of money made a rival Superman film with Brandon Routh back again. Like a Never Say Never Again.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 22, 2013 13:02:23 GMT -5
That would be awesome. Would never happen, but would still be awesome. 
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Post by Metallo on Jun 22, 2013 13:13:21 GMT -5
SR has a lot in common with NSNA.
CAM, I figure Cain's been smart with his money. He also does a lot of D-T-DVD movies and SYFY type movies. He seems to work steady even if its small time stuff.
I think Reeve wanted to be an "actor" more than a movie star and was hoping Superman would allow him to do more serious personal stuff. Kinda like what Bale did with his Batman fame. Theres a reason he did Terminator Salvation. I think if Reeve had taken more commercial projects instead of turning them down he could have been more successful. It's not like George Reeves or Adam West were he got offered no big stuff. He got offers a lot of big movies. He just made the wrong choices. May e the guy should have taken Pretty Woman and Running Man
Personally as much as I love Firefox as is I always thought that would have been a great new franchise for Reeve with Eastwood as director.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 22, 2013 13:48:38 GMT -5
After viewing the convention bit- went and checked this out with Cain at another convention: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSm43Vd3VQEHe mentions primarily keeping a schedule and making career choices purposely to make sure he's around for his son, as he's a single dad- very admirable. Kind of answered my question- So, that seems to inform his choices - (as opposed to being a Charlie Sheen-type dad). His memoirs totally echo the thought that Superman was a stepping stone. The 70's bit interviews that come up also show hints of him wanting people to know that he could do other things.... understandable being the last Superman on screen blew his brains out (at least most believe so) over being typecast, and being headline news--- that had to hang a big shadow at the time, or be constantly be thought of in the background. His "Actors Studio" appearance was fantastic (it was post-accident) where he talked about how, of course, the accident reframed completely what his hopes and dreams were--- but if the accident hadn't happened- with all of his drive and ambition mentioned in his memoirs, after reading them-- one can't help but wonder if he might have continued on his path at the time of growing more and more frustrated with Hollywood and life, but in a different way. In any case, definitely hopefully he's at peace wherever he is. I've wanted to, but have never seen Firefox. Do you think it holds up to watch today? Or do you feel it's too dated a film? |
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Post by Metallo on Jun 23, 2013 11:26:51 GMT -5
It's fun but its dated. Very much a product of the Cold War. you can tell that at the time fx heavy films weren't Eastwoods forte. Some of the fx hold up pretty well though. I think the action and plane sequences really could have benefitted from more of the techniques the Salkinds used in the Superman films though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 11:33:05 GMT -5
Both seem like great guys. I always liked Cain, i've said it many times before, but in spite of his Superman being crap, his Clark Kent was brilliant and when I was younger I wished I could be like that.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 23, 2013 12:09:56 GMT -5
In hearing Cain talk on this/other conventions, it feels like Clark was more 'Dean Cain' the real guy than a character.
It was also good to see Routh with Cain--- I'm glad that Routh seemed to have a good sense of humor over things, and it had to be somewhat comforting to see Routh sitting next to another actor who had gone through (in different ways) the highs/lows of being Superman on tv/film, and listening to Cain having gone through the whole experience and still (it seems) being able to live a happy life beyond it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 11:50:59 GMT -5
Those guys made money off a room full of people who would pay to listen to them fart. They're doing fine. I truly don't believe they give two shits about any of this beyond the money they'll pull down for the rest of their lives. It won't be a fortune, but any time they need a little spending cash, all they have to do is say "yes" to any one of a hundred invites to promoters who will pay for their time. Life must be good for those guys.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 24, 2013 12:28:59 GMT -5
I'd be suprised (*though it's not impossible, I'll grant that) if there were a hundred invites that appear for these guys to show up and talk and pay good money.
And, if even if they did--- coming from someone who attends conventions a lot, I can tell you--- not all celebs at these conventions are on their best behavior, and not all fans are at their best behavior when addressing these celebs, either. (*I can share names of older stars that have gotten a bad rep by behaving bad)
To me, that's why it's nice to hear when a celeb is actually easy to talk to at these things, and make an effort to be pleasant to fans, paid or not. ((Go see Marina Sirtis talk sometime at a convention--- man, you'll meet one very BITTER star.)) Fans at these things do talk to each other, too on which celebs are open to chatting and seem to enjoy it, versus ones that would rather not be there and don't hide it.
It's not like they're giving blood or curing cancer, of course, but if you go to a convention and see how some of the stars behave, I think you'd appreciate the difference....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 16:40:14 GMT -5
John Carpenter's developed a reputation for being a grump old bastard, but to be fair he does field some pretty stupid questions or comments at these things. I'm waiting to hear of a celeb topping Shatner's "get a life." I saw him speak once at my university, and while it was cool it was really dragged down by some of the really uptight or overly serious nerds who were asking questions he didn't know how to answer, stupid shit about warp drives or whatever. The theme of his talk was "putting a human connection to technology," but I think it went in one ear and out the other of a lot of the nerds. I wanted to ask if he had any wild stories about Heather Locklear from "TJ Hooker."  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 24, 2013 18:27:18 GMT -5
Yeah.... there's no shortage of those moments- I know that for some, the thrill of going to the convention is being able to ask the stars personally this or that.... unfortunately, more than half of the time, it feels like the questions are incomprehensible or cringe-worthy.
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