Multiple viewings

[EnriqueH]

No smartass intentions behind the poll.

Just curious.

I know there's a tread talking about how many times we planned to see t, but I'm curious what we ended up doing.

Despite that I'm picking on the film, I actually really want to see it again. I just haven't had time.

[atp]

The first half is definitely worthy of multiple viewings.

I enjoyed pretty much all of it up until Superman meets Zod. From that point onwards, unfortunately, it just descends into crap.

[Deleted]

Twice. Once on that Walmart premiere night to avoid my wife bitching about a midnight viewing, second time for IMAX 3D. I'll catch it at least once more when it eventually goes to the budget theater. No sense paying $10 when I can see it for $3.

[ye5man]

Once. I did want to see once more, but after I got in the mood to do so I ran out of time.

[Shane]

4 times so far
gonna go again next weekend hopefully

[Metallo]

Twice. It took me a while to muster up the interest to see it again though.

[atp]

I went 4x.

First time I went alone, on opening night, to make sure it was suitable for my son. Second time (the very next day) I took my son to see it.

A couple of weeks later, I went with my wife. She never really cared about Superman or the Reeve movies growing up, but she liked MoS.

A week or so after that, I went alone again.

After 4 x, I can pinpoint the exact moments when the quality drops.

[crazy_asian_man]

The first half is definitely worthy of multiple viewings.

I enjoyed pretty much all of it up until Superman meets Zod. From that point onwards, unfortunately, it just descends into crap.

TIME magazine (well, web-zine, now) agreed with you. They RAVED about the first half, then were pretty disappointed with the second half.

[theoj]

I ended up seeing it FIVE times!

And it was still great on the 5th viewing, and even though I'll admit I love the first half more than the second half and think that there's way too much fighting at the end, overall it is still so enjoyable and watchable.

It should do well on DVD, Blu-Ray and TV.

Would love to see an extended version though (of scenes from the first half of the movie only please!).

[crazy_asian_man]

To be honest-
If there wasn't ANYTHING competing for time/attention, I would probably have gone out to see this a few more times.

With SR- I dug a huge amount of it, so (if memory serves right), I went about 6-7 times at the theatres--- partly fueled by the fact that the huge theatres tend to rotate features fast during the summer & if you can't see it bigscreen, what's the point of going to the theatres if it's coming out of dvd the next month? - is my philosophy.

With MOS- this was also a factor (I only saw it twice), and there are parts I really dug, but with other big spectacle choices (Pacific Rim, Wolverine)--- I won't deny it also played into my interest/lowered interest in seeing it again.

Maybe MOS would have made even more either at the start of summer or in the fall?

[Jimbo]

Just the one time. I'll rent it to watch a second time with a fresher perspective, and then probably never again.

[EnriqueH]

Aug 4, 2013 19:08:26 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Maybe MOS would have made even more either at the start of summer or in the fall?

I dunno, I really think the buzz for the film kinda died out after opening weekend because I really didn't see the film live up to expectations. That's what I perceive public perception. to have been.

There was a lot of "Aw, man, this movie is going to rule!" anticipation, and then when it came out, you could almost hear a collective "womp, womp, womp".

I'm not saying that there aren't people that loved it because there were, but something kept it from truly catching fire.

[Metallo]

The hype was HUGE in some circles and I think anticipation was high with some because Nolans name was attatched. Hype was big with some DESPITE his name being attatched. The film finally promised to deliver "the Superman so many wanted to see." Finally we got to see Superman punch something because in the end that's what the Superman is all about right?

It didn't live up to the hype. On the extreme ends there were people saying "man this movie is AMAZING" or "this movie is a piece of shit" but the vast majority of people were in the middle and seemed to say "eh it was okay" or "meh." Then they moved on to the next big summer film.

The thing with MOS is...its a hit financially. Nobody can deny that. It's just not a big hit. What makes that sting a little more is the fact that this was WBs BEST SHOT in their minds. In their minds they thew EVERYTHING they had at the film, everything in their arsenal. Yet it got some weak critical reviews and decent but but amazing box office for the size of its budget. That's why they put the Batman contingency plan on the table and just now put it into effect.

[Jor-L5150]

5 so far. Waiting for the cheap theaters to get it now.

LOVE it.

[EnriqueH]

I like the Reaganesque Alex Ross Superman in your sig, Jor.

[Jor-L5150]

Aug 5, 2013 10:50:46 GMT -5 EnriqueH said:

I like the Reaganesque Alex Ross Superman in your sig, Jor.

And I like you. And you like calling us pussy. And I like being called a pussy because it means I'm an object of desire. Better than calling me dick.
(Not that I'm not a dick, but pussy is more flattering)

[crazy_asian_man]

I dunno, I really think the buzz for the film kinda died out after opening weekend because I really didn't see the film live up to expectations. That's what I perceive public perception. to have been.

There was a lot of "Aw, man, this movie is going to rule!" anticipation, and then when it came out, you could almost hear a collective "womp, womp, womp".

I'm not saying that there aren't people that loved it because there were, but something kept it from truly catching fire.

Friends of mine who weren't Superman fans but loved the trailers went to it, and thought it 'good'- but then moved onto the next action flick after seeing it once.
The good/bad about there being a number of superhero films each summer now, I think, is that the bar is REALLY high now for someone to go out and see a superhero film multiple times before it leaves the theatres.

[Jor-L5150]

If I read the paperback while listening to the score, is that like a half a watch?

[crazy_asian_man]

If I read the paperback while listening to the score, is that like a half a watch?

Could you share a review of the paperback when you finish it, Jor?
Goyer himself said that the film was '70 percent' of what he envisioned (or something to that effect)--- Since the script isn't available, I'm curious if the paperback fleshes out better what Goyer might have had in mind for MOS/addressed more questions about the story some of us have...

[Jor-L5150]

I think brad might have already read it, it takes me forever to find the time for reading. Ill finish the paperback just in time for MoS3. Lol

[Deleted]

I finished my second reading today. Not much to do on the traction table, so ...

Anyway, the novelization is by Greg Cox, who has a long list of these things. Whatever script he got to use was the final script. Dialogue is word for word, plot is the exact same, as is scene arrangement. In other words, Snyder/Goyer didn't fuck him over like Singer did to Marv Wolfman, who didn't know that Jason was Superman's kid and had an alternate scene for the death of Brutus the henchman.

The prose Cox inserted between script dialogue, or the action sequences, are also spot-on. Seems like the filmmakers had a clear idea of the action scenes early and didn't improvise at all in filming or editing.

Be aware, Cox inserts a lot of corny writing when he has to make up prose beyond the script. Lots of secondary characters react to Clark and think "What the devil?" Seriously, who the fuck thinks like that? Who in blazes talks like that? Oh, fuck, I just did. Cox must be from the fabulous Fifties of comic book dialogue. It's really corny at times and really dampers the "this is what would happen FOR REALS if Superman was on Earth" serious tone the filmmakers wanted. You just can't have it both ways.

But, I've mentioned before that a few things are clarified, like where did the suit come from? The ship contained an armory and supply room, and there were multiple skin suits, battle armors, capes, and coats in a variety of colors and styles. Clark picked out the blue/red version because he liked it. That wasn't what was filmed, obviously. The S crest doubled as the El crest and the symbol of hope (hope was their symbol), and it's on the suits just like a soldier has his nation's flag somewhere on his uniform.

Other questions? Feel free to ask.

[crazy_asian_man]

Other questions? Feel free to ask.

Are there more interactions with other people in Smallville (or his dad) that shape who he is in the book? (Pete Ross/Lana/etc.)

I felt that Clark/Supes' walking into the church was an odd choice- as there was no real hint as to how much he believed in God-or how much a part the church played in) his development growing up.
Is there anything more that addresses Clark's perspective on the church/God in the book?

[atp]

Aug 8, 2013 3:15:28 GMT -5 @bamabrad said:

I finished my second reading today. Not much to do on the traction table, so ...

Anyway, the novelization is by Greg Cox, who has a long list of these things. Whatever script he got to use was the final script. Dialogue is word for word, plot is the exact same, as is scene arrangement. In other words, Snyder/Goyer didn't fuck him over like Singer did to Marv Wolfman, who didn't know that Jason was Superman's kid and had an alternate scene for the death of Brutus the henchman.

The prose Cox inserted between script dialogue, or the action sequences, are also spot-on. Seems like the filmmakers had a clear idea of the action scenes early and didn't improvise at all in filming or editing.

Be aware, Cox inserts a lot of corny writing when he has to make up prose beyond the script. Lots of secondary characters react to Clark and think "What the devil?" Seriously, who the fuck thinks like that? Who in blazes talks like that? Oh, fuck, I just did. Cox must be from the fabulous Fifties of comic book dialogue. It's really corny at times and really dampers the "this is what would happen FOR REALS if Superman was on Earth" serious tone the filmmakers wanted. You just can't have it both ways.

But, I've mentioned before that a few things are clarified, like where did the suit come from? The ship contained an armory and supply room, and there were multiple skin suits, battle armors, capes, and coats in a variety of colors and styles. Clark picked out the blue/red version because he liked it. That wasn't what was filmed, obviously. The S crest doubled as the El crest and the symbol of hope (hope was their symbol), and it's on the suits just like a soldier has his nation's flag somewhere on his uniform.

Other questions? Feel free to ask.

I liked the extra information about the dragonfly and its bionic wings

[crazy_asian_man]

I only have the 'making of' book by Daniel Wallace--- was a little unnerved reading that the whole visual design of Krypton was based on a planet that literally ate away all of its natural resources.

How dark can a Superman reboot be? Wow. Bleak!

Maybe the next reboot (if I'm around or the world is around that long) will have that positive view of a futuristic planet for Krypton....

[Deleted]

Aug 8, 2013 12:39:21 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Other questions? Feel free to ask.

Are there more interactions with other people in Smallville (or his dad) that shape who he is in the book? (Pete Ross/Lana/etc.)

I felt that Clark/Supes' walking into the church was an odd choice- as there was no real hint as to how much he believed in God-or how much a part the church played in) his development growing up.
Is there anything more that addresses Clark's perspective on the church/God in the book?

Nope. Nothing extra. The novel is practically the shooting script/final film version. Clark heading to the church is just as random in the book as it is in the movie.