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Post by EnriqueH on Oct 19, 2013 22:33:32 GMT -5
AND THERES NOTHING U CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 2:02:48 GMT -5
Uh, yeah, "The Dark Knight" is a better movie. Your point?
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Post by Shane on Oct 20, 2013 4:50:38 GMT -5
made it to the 2nd beer yet ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 5:54:12 GMT -5
It owes most of its success to Heath Ledger's inability to take his prescriptions properly. And there ain't nothing you can do about that. Denial denial  |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 20, 2013 9:52:23 GMT -5
If only Cavill had taken some meds to give him some pep. Even a redbull would have been better than nothing.
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Post by ShogunLogan on Oct 20, 2013 10:42:02 GMT -5
It owes most of its success to Heath Ledger's inability to take his prescriptions properly. And there ain't nothing you can do about that. Denial denial Do people really believe that? That it was successful because Heath Ledger died? |
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Post by ye5man on Oct 20, 2013 11:13:47 GMT -5
Does a drunk Enrique remind anyone else of...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 17:51:06 GMT -5
It owes most of its success to Heath Ledger's inability to take his prescriptions properly. And there ain't nothing you can do about that. Denial denial Do people really believe that? That it was successful because Heath Ledger died? Not 100% the reason for its success, but yeah. Plenty of people believe it's what got the hoards who weren't comic book fans, on the bandwagon and gushing about how it transcends the genre and all the other bollocks you regularly hear about that film. |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Oct 20, 2013 18:03:23 GMT -5
Using the excuse of Ledger's death towards the success of the movie is lame. Brandon Lee's death during the shoot of The Crow may have gotten a few curious, but it didn't do jack for the movie's success. And I vividly remember Lee's death and the aftermath.
What we can say attributed The Dark Knight's success is the internet. That's the real hype machine.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 20, 2013 19:42:25 GMT -5
Do people really believe that? That it was successful because Heath Ledger died? Not 100% the reason for its success, but yeah. Plenty of people believe it's what got the hoards who weren't comic book fans, on the bandwagon and gushing about how it transcends the genre and all the other bollocks you regularly hear about that film. There's no way to really verify that.... but if I were a betting person, then I'd agree that the timing of Ledger's death probably made more people who weren't normally interested in seeing a comic book movie more inclined to check out Ledger's 'last' film (although "Dr.Parnassus" is actually the REAL 'last' film)--- and were surprised that it was more like a serious crime drama and NOT a kids' film or a brainless action film. "Glee"'s ratings went higher for an episode that was a tribute to actor Monteth's overdose- I imagine there had to be SOME bump in ticket sales by Ledger fans for similar reasons..... However- like it or hate it, TDK resonated and struck a chord that made enough people want to return for repeat viewings- so there had to be more than just Ledger's death to the film.... |
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Post by tomahawk on Oct 20, 2013 20:04:45 GMT -5
Ledger's death got more people in the door. The quality of the film enabled those people to spread the word.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 23:12:16 GMT -5
Does a drunk Enrique remind anyone else of... So that's why I like Enrique? Damn. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 3:24:19 GMT -5
Using the excuse of Ledger's death towards the success of the movie is lame. Brandon Lee's death during the shoot of The Crow may have gotten a few curious, but it didn't do jack for the movie's success. And I vividly remember Lee's death and the aftermath. What we can say attributed The Dark Knight's success is the internet. That's the real hype machine. I remember the hype increasing ten fold when the other cast members started to go on about how sad it was he died because he gave a phenomenal performance in it. Add to that people around me in the real world getting on the bandwagon at that point, so as far as I'm concerned Ledger's death with significant in determining the level of praise the film got. |
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Post by EnriqueH on Oct 21, 2013 5:19:36 GMT -5
So you guys are saying the reason TDK was so massively successful was because an actor died tragically in one of his last films roles?
Interesting.
So how come I don't see River Phoenix, Brittany Murphy, Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee, Brad Renfro or James Dean in the top 10 highest grossing films of all time?
Weird.
Must be a Heath Ledger ONLY phenomenon.
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Post by tomahawk on Oct 21, 2013 7:25:32 GMT -5
Were their last movies as good as what The Dark Knight was? We're their final performances as acclaimed as what Heath Ledger's was?
I can only go on anecdotal evidence of what I experienced when he died, and the attention of women in particular was definitely heightened by the death of Ledger. For us, we would have seen it anyway but Ledger's death and the acclaim for his role that was coming out because of his death sparked interest in a demographic that was not usually what would be turning out to superhero movies.
It then turned out to be generally accepted as a fantastic film.
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Post by ye5man on Oct 21, 2013 8:22:39 GMT -5
I bet time won't be kind to it.
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Post by EnriqueH on Oct 21, 2013 10:30:24 GMT -5
Were their last movies as good as what The Dark Knight was? We're their final performances as acclaimed as what Heath Ledger's was? I can only go on anecdotal evidence of what I experienced when he died, and the attention of women in particular was definitely heightened by the death of Ledger. For us, we would have seen it anyway but Ledger's death and the acclaim for his role that was coming out because of his death sparked interest in a demographic that was not usually what would be turning out to superhero movies. It then turned out to be generally accepted as a fantastic film. The fact is that TDK had formidable word of mouth and was regarded as an excellent film which also happened to feature a superhero AND notable acting accolades. The Crow had good buzz and a ton of media press regarding Lee's accidental death. Enter the Dragon was also a hit, #2 for WB that year following The Exorcist. But the guys I mentioned weren't the only stars to die tragically young: John Belushi, Marilyn Monroe, Chris Farley an John Candy all died young too. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 10:40:03 GMT -5
Time will tell. People gushed over the Spider-Man movies. I thought they were great. Ten years later, I think they're corny as heck. I'd say "The Dark Knight" is holding up better for me after five years than last year's "Avengers," which to me is a live-action cartoon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 10:40:42 GMT -5
Were their last movies as good as what The Dark Knight was? We're their final performances as acclaimed as what Heath Ledger's was? I can only go on anecdotal evidence of what I experienced when he died, and the attention of women in particular was definitely heightened by the death of Ledger. For us, we would have seen it anyway but Ledger's death and the acclaim for his role that was coming out because of his death sparked interest in a demographic that was not usually what would be turning out to superhero movies. It then turned out to be generally accepted as a fantastic film. I, for one, think "Canadian Bacon" should've made a billion worldwide. Shows what I know. |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Oct 21, 2013 10:44:35 GMT -5
It's not about them dying tragically young. It's whether their deaths contributed to the commercial success of their last films. I say it's not significant. It would make a good research project to pile up the stats.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 21, 2013 20:59:15 GMT -5
It's not about them dying tragically young. It's whether their deaths contributed to the commercial success of their last films. I say it's not significant. It would make a good research project to pile up the stats. My guess is that the immediacy of a celebrity death right around the time their 'last' movie came out, just makes a viewing of their last work feel a little more immediate or urgent PLUS that said celebrity died tragically young. If TDK came out three years after Ledger's death, then those who rushed out to see it SOLELY for that 'last' connection to the actor, might have procrastinated or even moved way on by then, if the gap between the celebrity's death and the availability of the movie had been bigger. As well loved as Michael Caine is- it's a drag to say, (especially being older), but if it was Michael Caine or one of the older actors who had died prior to the release of the Dark Knight, it is debatable if as many Michael Caine fans would have rushed out to see it just for the same reasons as Ledger*. (*The implication of an older person dying is often that it's more due to nature and it wasn't as much about an actor with creative potential cut too short and soon). |
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