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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 13:05:44 GMT -5
Jesus God Almighty.... You do realize I said Man of Steel is more ballsy than Superman Returns, right? Like going through the history of comics, films, and televisions with their racial and gender progression is highly unnecessary. You're just focusing on the last thing I said, which was said more in jest than anything else. As if I didn't know what was happening in the 40s to the 70s. As if I didn't know that Superman the Movie broke new ground when it came out or anything else. I know this, dude. But when compared to Superman Returns, Man of Steel is a breath of fresh air. For me and some others. Not for you, though. We get that. No need to break it down why I'm wrong to you. It's incredibly fucking obnoxious, man. Beyond belief. sorry but that's up for debate. And I'm focusing on everything you said. Like your silly comeback on what I said about Bond. MOS changed some elements but told the same story we've seen a million times before using ideas we've seen a million times before even in the last few years. How's that ballsy? Sr may have copied much of Stms style but it told a different kind of story. Superman crashing to earth and fighting Zod is a breath of fresh air? Please. Give us a story and a VILLIAN we haven't seen before. That would be a real breath of air and SR DIDN'T EVEN rehash the origin. The end of SR had more balls than most of MOS. It didn't appeal to the action crowd and it left the status quo changed. Where was the happy ending were everyone gets together? Oh yeah there wasn't one. And it presented a far deeper and more complex moral dillema than snapping Zods neck like a breadstick (even though they couldn't seem to hurt each other at all during a long boring assed battle). So much of MOS was the easy way one could take. It was what most of the audience today is used to. How is that ballsy? Stuff like a black Perry white? Most people couldn't have cared either way. This is the kind of stuff that was thrown out as ballsy when it's what people EXPECT now. Itd be a different story if the audience hadn't been conditioned to expect this kind of change with all reboots but they have. Now it's not even a shock any more. Some people don't seem to grasp that. There was no risk or balls in most of the "changes." Appealing to the masses with what their used to and what they want doesn't take much balls. Sometimes it takes balls to do something else. In so many ways MOS was the safest laziest most focus group bullshitted direction WB could have gone in. There's no more balls in that. DIFFERENT doesn't always equal ballsy. Both bring DIFFERENT elements to the table. Snyderman can always put his underpants back on the outside. Not so easy for the Singerverse to totally erase Jason White. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 13:18:03 GMT -5
This is why the ignore feature on the forum isn't really that good.
You use it, you can't see someone's posts which is fair enough, but then when they start their usual nonsense you're still going to see their quoted posts and retorts to that post from other users.
Sad thing is, i don't even need to be able to read what eccentric's responding to, I can pretty much guess exactly what the preceding posts have said.
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 13:23:12 GMT -5
Aw... Good for you Krissy. Even with me on ignore he still likes to bitch. Like Enriquw said that's what happens when different opinions come up. He makes it a personal thang cause he can't deal with that.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 27, 2013 13:30:50 GMT -5
Actually, the most ballsy Superman live action had to be the xxx parody. Doesn't mean it was any good, though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 13:35:14 GMT -5
Actually, the most ballsy Superman live action had to be the xxx parody. Doesn't mean it was any good, though.  But MOS did drop the trunks, which showed massive balls  |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 13:39:51 GMT -5
Actually, the most ballsy Superman live action had to be the xxx parody. Doesn't mean it was any good, though. But MOS did drop the trunks, which showed massive balls Snyders into that...which is no surprise. Giant KryptoCocks flying into the dark hole of the Phantom Zone and everything. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 27, 2013 13:48:34 GMT -5
But.... EVERYONE here has a strong biased opinion, no?
I begrudgingly give WB credit for giving both Abrams, Singer, and Snyder free reign to a big degree..... (as well as Lois&Clark and Smallville)- but another part wishes that there was more adherence to the silver age comics.
Part of me wishes that we got to see Miller's JLA at the same time as the Nolan Batman films- if only to test the possibility of two live action versions of a character being able to BE successful at the same time.
Imagine if (well, also imagining if Miller's JLA was a good movie) BOTH versions had been successful?
Then- it might have opened the doors for multiple versions of Superman movies to be presented without the studio worrying about any conflict... rather than be handcuffed by only one interpretation at a time.
Could have been interesting....
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Post by Melv on Nov 27, 2013 13:58:22 GMT -5
Snyders into that...which is no surprise. Giant KryptoCocks flying into the dark hole of the Phantom Zone and everything. So is Singer. What's with the homophobic insults? It's not something to be ashamed of. Don't use it as a slur, it's pathetic. Anyway, your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. I think both films were ballsy for different reasons. MOS is more successful so its balls worked out for the best. |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Nov 27, 2013 13:58:48 GMT -5
But cam, at least some can comprehend each others opinions and not condescendingly try to seek out how wrong you are for having a particular point of view. Right? Please tell me I'm not the only one that notices that. You love Superman Returns, but I never tried to prove that you wrong for appreciating certain aspects of it even though I ppersoally didn't care for it.
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:10:13 GMT -5
Snyders into that...which is no surprise. Giant KryptoCocks flying into the dark hole of the Phantom Zone and everything. So is Singer. What's with the homophobic insults? It's not something to be ashamed of. Don't use it as a slur, it's pathetic. Anyway, your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. I think both films were ballsy for different reasons. MOS is more successful so its balls worked out for the best. Oh spare me the faux outrage. It wasn't a slur it was a joke. Relax. I'm not a homophobe and have no problem with homosexuality. How dare you even go there. Besides where was all this from you when all that "gay" stuff was being said about Superman Returns? Never said my opinion was more valid. But once again where are you telling other folks that when they get accused of being biased or reeve fans and all that shit? |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:12:57 GMT -5
But cam, at least some can comprehend each others opinions and not condescendingly try to seek out how wrong you are for having a particular point of view. Right? Please tell me I'm not the only one that notices that. You love Superman Returns, but I never tried to prove that you wrong for appreciating certain aspects of it even though I ppersoally didn't care for it. You must be talking about yourself. I'm not the guy saying someone is "biased" for having an opinion or even going there. CAM knows how to have a different opinion while not being an asshole about it. You're taking about having a different POV and defending it as trying to prove someone wrong. That's your problem not anyone else's. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 14:13:04 GMT -5
Snyders into that...which is no surprise. Giant KryptoCocks flying into the dark hole of the Phantom Zone and everything. So is Singer. What's with the homophobic insults? It's not something to be ashamed of. Don't use it as a slur, it's pathetic. Anyway, your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. I think both films were ballsy for different reasons. MOS is more successful so its balls worked out for the best. More to the point, he hates Snyder and doesn't rate the film much, so why does he spend so much of his time obsessing over it? It's like me jumping on a Batman website just to talk about how I didn't care for TDKR. I'd never do it, got too much to do, and even if I didn't, I'd find better things to do with my free time. Homophobic comments from a guy who shows all the classic signs of having never made a woman squirt. It's weird I'll give you that |
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Post by Melv on Nov 27, 2013 14:14:36 GMT -5
I've noticed this 'joke' a couple of times from you so I mentioned it. I'll comment when I see it but I don't read every single thing and analyse it to the nth degree so I don't always step in to save the day like you.
You were joking but using it to defend your dislike of the film and acting as if it was something to be ashamed of. It's not. Just focus on the film's flaws.
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Post by eccentricbeing on Nov 27, 2013 14:15:48 GMT -5
But cam, at least some can comprehend each others opinions and not condescendingly try to seek out how wrong you are for having a particular point of view. Right? Please tell me I'm not the only one that notices that. You love Superman Returns, but I never tried to prove that you wrong for appreciating certain aspects of it even though I ppersoally didn't care for it. You must be talking about yourself. I'm not the guy saying someone is "biased" for having an opinion or even going there. CAM knows how to have a different opinion while not being an asshole about it. You're taking about having a different POV and defending it as trying to prove someone wrong. That's your problem not anyone else's. You're full of it, dude.  |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:17:59 GMT -5
But.... EVERYONE here has a strong biased opinion, no? I begrudgingly give WB credit for giving both Abrams, Singer, and Snyder free reign to a big degree..... (as well as Lois&Clark and Smallville)- but another part wishes that there was more adherence to the silver age comics. Part of me wishes that we got to see Miller's JLA at the same time as the Nolan Batman films- if only to test the possibility of two live action versions of a character being able to BE successful at the same time. Imagine if (well, also imagining if Miller's JLA was a good movie) BOTH versions had been successful? Then- it might have opened the doors for multiple versions of Superman movies to be presented without the studio worrying about any conflict... rather than be handcuffed by only one interpretation at a time. Could have been interesting.... At this point the only way the Snyderverse might be Salvageable is if it's revealed Cavill and Batfleck are the Justice Lords. We already know SuperCav likes to murder his enemies. Then Bale and Routh come back and kick their asses and bring true justice. THAT would be a story that would take BALLS. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:23:51 GMT -5
I've noticed this 'joke' a couple of times from you so I mentioned it. I'll comment when I see it but I don't read every single thing and analyse it to the nth degree so I don't always step in to save the day like you. You were joking but using it to defend your dislike of the film and acting as if it was something to be ashamed of. It's not. Just focus on the film's flaws. Bullshit. You jumped in this one time because your on a certain side of the fence. The hypocrisy. If it's wrong it's ALWAYS wrong. Yet NOW you take a stand. Which is it? I'm not using that as my problem with the film or to defend my dislike of it. I was using it as a joke. Not cause someone's gay but because it was randomly and bizarrely put in the film. Which Singer DIDNT do even if he is gay. MOS has had plenty of problems I've focused on that have nothing to do with that. I've never had a problem with gay people in my life so don't even fucking go there accusing me of something like that. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:26:45 GMT -5
You must be talking about yourself. I'm not the guy saying someone is "biased" for having an opinion or even going there. CAM knows how to have a different opinion while not being an asshole about it. You're taking about having a different POV and defending it as trying to prove someone wrong. That's your problem not anyone else's. You're full of it, dude. LOL. REALLY? Like I said you are true to form. Don't like that mirror being held up to yourself do you. You can do the so called "call out" but you see yourself as blameless in your own egotistical bullshit. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:30:59 GMT -5
So is Singer. What's with the homophobic insults? It's not something to be ashamed of. Don't use it as a slur, it's pathetic. Anyway, your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. I think both films were ballsy for different reasons. MOS is more successful so its balls worked out for the best. More to the point, he hates Snyder and doesn't rate the film much, so why does he spend so much of his time obsessing over it? It's like me jumping on a Batman website just to talk about how I didn't care for TDKR. I'd never do it, got too much to do, and even if I didn't, I'd find better things to do with my free time. Homophobic comments from a guy who shows all the classic signs of having never made a woman squirt. It's weird I'll give you that This isn't a MOS website. It's a SUPERMAN board. For all Superman stuff. And you have gone in bitching about Nolan's Batman in threads even though you hate them. I guess that's certainly what makes your squirt doesn't it? It's a board. We are allowed to have our own different opinions even if we disagree. Deal with it. At least I don't tell someone they can't talk about something Krissy even if I disagree with it. The thread question ASKED everyone what they thought about one movie vs the other. Wrap your fucking head around that. We've all got the right to speak on the topic. |
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Post by Melv on Nov 27, 2013 14:37:56 GMT -5
Bullshit. You jumped in this one time because your on a certain side of the fence. The hypocrisy. If it's wrong it's ALWAYS wrong. Yet NOW you take a stand. Which is it? I'm not using that as a my problem with the film or to defend my dislike of it. I was using it and a joke. Not cause someone's gay but because it was randomly and bizarrely put I the film. Which Singer DIDNT do even if he is gay. MOS has had plenty of problems I've focused on that have nothing to do with that. I've never had a problem with gay people in my life so don't even fucking go there accusing me of something like that. My side of the fence is that I like both films and don't give off hate towards other people for liking something I don't. I'm sorry but saying Snyder puts cocks in his film because he must be into that is not just a joke. It's implying that if he was into that it would be a bad thing. You've also said that other posters must be gay for focusing on you throughout the arguments about MOS, again, as if it's a bad thing. That's all I'm taking issue with. In reality, they're focusing on you because you are angrily (seemingly) expressing your opinions as facts. I promise I'll comment on everything homophobic I see from every poster in the future to make you happy. |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Nov 27, 2013 14:42:47 GMT -5
You're full of it, dude. LOL. REALLY? Like I said you are true to form. Don't like that mirror being held up to yourself do you. You can do the so called "call out" but you see yourself as blameless in your own egotistical bullshit. Oh, do i? Now all of a sudden, you're a psychoanalysis. I gotta give it to you, though. You are right when you said you like to sling mud back, but it doesn't work when you're simply using what I said to you against me. It doesn't work because I'm not like that at all. I've never proven to carry that persona on this board and I only do it to you because that's what you do. We all know it. You just haven't come to terms with it. It's ok. Stay in that closet. There's something that my father had always told me about people that rings true in this situation. When everyone finds you to be a problem and you don't, most likely you are the problem. But I'm done giving you attention. So I'll read your 4 paragraph rebuttal (you'll purposely make it one now) and that would be it. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 14:51:16 GMT -5
Bullshit. You jumped in this one time because your on a certain side of the fence. The hypocrisy. If it's wrong it's ALWAYS wrong. Yet NOW you take a stand. Which is it? I'm not using that as a my problem with the film or to defend my dislike of it. I was using it and a joke. Not cause someone's gay but because it was randomly and bizarrely put I the film. Which Singer DIDNT do even if he is gay. MOS has had plenty of problems I've focused on that have nothing to do with that. I've never had a problem with gay people in my life so don't even fucking go there accusing me of something like that. My side of the fence is that I like both films and don't give off hate towards other people for liking something I don't. I'm sorry but saying Snyder puts cocks in his film because he must be into that is not just a joke. It's implying that if he was into that it would be a bad thing. You've also said that other posters must be gay for focusing on you throughout the arguments about MOS, again, as if it's a bad thing. That's all I'm taking issue with. In reality, they're focusing on you because you are angrily (seemingly) expressing your opinions as facts. I promise I'll comment on everything homophobic I see from every poster in the future to make you happy. Oh fuck off with that. It was a joke. And not because I'm a homophobe but becused it looked odd. Ian McKellan and Alan Cumming are gay and I loved them In the X-men films. Who cares if they are gay. But I didn't see Magneto creating a giant metallic dildo and ramrodding it up someone's ass or anything like that. See the difference? Jack Larson is gay and I don't give a fuck. Best Jimmy Olsen ever. Kris calls me gay and questions my masculinity and sexuality every chance he gets when he gets pissed off because his argument is faulty but you don't say shit about that. Like I said you're blowing this faux outrage because your on one side of the fence. If you weren't you'd show some consistency. You seem to take issue with someone disagreeing. I've said over and over again my opinion is my opinion. Not fact. It's in writing in this thread. Maybe if you'd read instead of getting wound up and ready to jump in complaining youd see that. But I'm not going to stop stating my opinion because someone is tired of hearing it. Deal with it. If you don't like it don't read it. Like I said certain folks like to paint someone as something when they don't get their way. Ohh he's angry. No I wasn't angry until you accused me of saying something homophobic. Someone strongly expressing their opinion is just that. Someone Strongly expressing their opinion But some folks don't like to see that. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2013 15:06:13 GMT -5
LOL. REALLY? Like I said you are true to form. Don't like that mirror being held up to yourself do you. You can do the so called "call out" but you see yourself as blameless in your own egotistical bullshit. Oh, do i? Now all of a sudden, you're a psychoanalysis. I gotta give it to you, though. You are right when you said you like to sling mud back, but it doesn't work when you're simply using what I said to you against me. It doesn't work because I'm not like that at all. I've never proven to carry that persona on this board and I only do it to you because that's what you do. We all know it. You just haven't come to terms with it. It's ok. Stay in that closet. There's something that my father had always told me about people that rings true in this situation. When everyone finds you to be a problem and you don't, most likely you are the problem. But I'm done giving you attention. So I'll read your 4 paragraph rebuttal (you'll purposely make it one now) and that would be it. And my father used to say sometimes a man stands on his own and for what he thinks. He also doesn't talk about folks behind there backs and in gossip like you've admitted to doing. He also said don't let persons intimidate you with their BS. Think for yourself. I never said I like to sling mud back. But I've got no problem doing it when someone makes it personal and does it to me first. You aren't like that? Oh really? You don't become an asshole and set yourself up as the local Matt Dillon and "call out" someone? Your words. You don't make a disagreement personal like you've done in this very thread? I started on the topic. You didn't like what I said so you've turned it into a personal issue yet again because you can't seem to debate the issues of the topic. You aren't a guy who says you like pushing my buttons? Seems like you admitted that. Why? Is that how you pass the time amusing yourself? Maybe I am a problem. But maybe some of you guys are part of the same problem. Difference between you and me is I'm man enough to consider that. Not always a simple issue. It's funny since I never had any problem with most of the guys here and still don't. Only three small paragraphs Carnac but knowing you I doubt this will just be it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 15:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by ye5man on Nov 27, 2013 16:06:29 GMT -5
One of these days 'tallo is just going to let things pass
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 16:34:21 GMT -5
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