Keith
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Post by Keith on Dec 9, 2013 13:34:36 GMT -5
Yeah, why does this notion of Jenny Olsen still exist? Her name wasn't Jenny Olsen! Did she have a last name in the film? I definitely hope I'm wrong. Guess I'll have to wait for an interview bit where Snyder or Goyer says that she's NOT Olsen.... but that's why I still feel that she's his replacement in the Snyderverse. Again.... I hope I'm wrong. According to her Daily Planet ID badge her name is Jenny Jurwich...  As regards to Lex in STAS, I always thought he looked like a bald Billy Zane. Lex is to big of a character for a race change. Perry White was ok and didn't really bother me, changing the race of main characters like Lex isn't needed. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 9, 2013 13:54:45 GMT -5
Thanks Keith- Glad to be proven wrong. Just the idea of 'Jenny Olsen'....bleahhh... might as well have 'Lexena Luthor'.  |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Dec 9, 2013 13:55:49 GMT -5
Her last name wasn't olsen. Its niether here nor there. I know that it wasn't onscreen..... and there's a window for it NOT to be.... But.... If it turns out in the sequel that it IS Jenny Olsen.... would you feel good about that change? (Though admit I may be cringing too soon, before the facts are all out...)  |
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Post by ShogunLogan on Dec 9, 2013 13:56:30 GMT -5
 Ahhh...Keith beat me to it. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 9, 2013 14:28:40 GMT -5
Yeah, your dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. If you cast a black actor in a traditionally white role some people will be mad but called racist. If you were to cast Blade with a white dude, you would be racist too. Trying to turn JLA into some sort of unity commentary will probably be handled poorly and take great characters and infuse them with generic racial stereotypes in an effort to be diverse. My own take on it.... It's about the artistic intent--- and amount of representation of a race in a given film. Creators can infuse things with INTENTIONAL subtle messages- but then again, UNINTENTIONAL subtle messages can come up as well.... so you're right- it's oftentimes a 'damned either way' scenario. If the ONLY character or face onscreen in an easily identifiable race for a movie turns out to be a villain, then it feels wrong to make that the only association. If there's a supporting character for the 'good' guys as well the same race, it helps. (I found the recent Wolverine movie incredibly annoying, because the only decent asians in that film were portrayed as women. Unintentional message: only good asians are women in that film. This could have easily been averted if they kept the main character as Wolverine's friend, not someone who betrays him. ) Racewise.... As an example: I don't want Jackie Chan to be ever considered for the role of Superman- as much as I like Jackie Chan- but I was fine with Dean Cain as Superman. He LOOKED the part to me, in relation to the original comic. (Or looked enough the part, in any case. Gerard Christopher I thought looked more the part and should have got it). If you're trying to do something that pushes the edge and wants to do something edgy and it's time for a fresh change, then cast Jackie Chan as Superman. If you're trying to make a faithful adaptation of the comics and embrace what's on the page, then cast someone who looks like Superman does in the comics. As well as the supporting characters, unless it's deemed race is unimportant or that the characters aren't that important. To me, as much as I enjoyed Michael Duncan as an actor, he wasn't the same race as Kingpin in the comics when he was cast in the Daredevil movie- and doing that automatically changed the character's background from how it was in the comics. Was it a good change? A bad change? Debatable. If Luthor was African-American in the comics, I'd say it was important to cast the same. If Luthor isn't, then what's the point? If there's a good creative argument to change something, then they should do it (Krypton may not be my ideal Krypton, but in reading the making of book, one can't say that there wasn't solid creative thought behind it)... if not- then...hard to embrace creative choices that seem done on a whim. |
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