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Post by crown on Aug 23, 2016 21:57:29 GMT -5
In the special feature Donner laments that the fortress break-in wasn't in the movie "bad effects that's all.... do you do a lot of drinking during the day? PUT THAT BACK IN!"
It seems that Donner wanted that scene and also the arctic patrol in there.
Why didn't Thau use those scenes... budget???
I can understand not using the Lex goes North /South since the middle of the film doesn't have enough Donner directed Clark/Lois and Villain scenes to balance out the Hackman material.
But there's no way any cut of SII is complete w/out the arctic patrol at least.. probably one of the best bit of new footage.
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Post by Kamdan on Aug 23, 2016 23:18:55 GMT -5
The "Put That Back In" statement from Donner seemed like sarcasm to me. Along with the shoddy effects, the wire work wasn't very convincing. Still baffled by them leaving out the Artic police, since it looks like Luthor was killed.
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Post by EnriqueH on Aug 23, 2016 23:22:13 GMT -5
Good to see you, Kam.
You guys are making me curious to watch TDC again, which I always enjoyed despite the incomplete feel.
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Post by crown on Aug 24, 2016 0:12:00 GMT -5
Good to see you, Kam. You guys are making me curious to watch TDC again, which I always enjoyed despite the incomplete feel. For all it's faults, it's actually a lot better than it was in 2006. It's the only cut of SII that really feels like Donner 100% of the time. All other fans cuts, if we're honest, basically just takes the Donner cut and adds back a bunch of Lester scenes.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 24, 2016 0:36:56 GMT -5
Good to see you, Kam. You guys are making me curious to watch TDC again, which I always enjoyed despite the incomplete feel. For all it's faults, it's actually a lot better than it was in 2006. It's the only cut of SII that really feels like Donner 100% of the time. All other fans cuts, if we're honest, basically just takes the Donner cut and adds back a bunch of Lester scenes. I think it would have been better to get the 'feel' of what Donner intended by having a disc of just all the scenes that Donner directed- but keeping the way that they were edited in the IRC (far better treatment of the Donner footage for the most part imo- music choices, takes, etc.) before the Thau revisions. Thau may have had good intentions, but the execution made me prefer to see the footage unedited to make up my own mind on whether or not it was the footage or the editing that felt wrong somehow.
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Post by atp on Jul 15, 2022 2:59:16 GMT -5
That's only his last name. He likes to be called Mister Thau
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