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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 15, 2018 8:08:28 GMT -5
Speaking of which...
Why does it seem like there's such a mixed bag on edaptations?
Do they just not sell that well?
Are they forced into it by the parent company?
The best ones (imo) were:
Logan's Run by Kraft and George Perez-
In ways the book was better than the actual movie.
Star Wars wasn't bad imo in looking back & the Archie Goodwin run was amazing following the movies.
War of the Worlds by Don McGregor and eventually Craig P. Russell was amazing.
I've heard but not read about great things with Michael Golden's Micronauts
Jerry Ordway's drawings for Batman were great illustrations (I just didn't care for the story that much in the movies).
Superman IV seemed to be fighting a deadline crunch as half a dozen different artists were assigned to it-
If deadline crunches are part of the mixed bag, that's understandable- with Logan's Run, the movie had already come out years before. How amazing would a Neal Adams or Byrne adaptation NOW be of the Reeve films?
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Post by Metallo on Aug 15, 2018 10:51:04 GMT -5
You mean direct adaptations of a film into a print one shot comic? There’s just not as much in the way of creative spontaneity, ingenuity, or originality. You’re basically seeing a film or the films script rehashed in a slower medium. There’s usually just not as much energy or excitement from the creators or the readers and it’s easy to see why. The creators don’t have much room to get inventive or clever.
I guess the biggest draws are seeing how they handle it artistically and fleshing things out in a medium that doesn’t have the running time or budgetary Constraints of movies. Otherwise it’s just like those read along books I remember from when I was a kid. It’s a feeling of been there done that.
The best comic book adaptations of movies imo are the ones that that aren’t retreads of the same story but continuations with new material. Star Trek turned out some pretty good comics set between the films or set in the timeframe of the shows but telling new stories. The writers and artists have more chances to take risks and flex their creative muscles.
SR BVS and MOS all had those lost tales fill in the black prequel comics but even those were a little constrained by having to fit into certain story boundaries.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 20, 2018 9:50:30 GMT -5
You mean direct adaptations of a film into a print one shot comic? There’s just not as much in the way of creative spontaneity, ingenuity, or originality. You’re basically seeing a film or the films script rehashed in a slower medium. There’s usually just not as much energy or excitement from the creators or the readers and it’s easy to see why. The creators don’t have much room to get inventive or clever. I guess the biggest draws are seeing how they handle it artistically and fleshing things out in a medium that doesn’t have the running time or budgetary Constraints of movies. Otherwise it’s just like those read along books I remember from when I was a kid. It’s a feeling of been there done that. The best comic book adaptations of movies imo are the ones that that aren’t retreads of the same story but continuations with new material. Star Trek turned out some pretty good comics set between the films or set in the timeframe of the shows but telling new stories. The writers and artists have more chances to take risks and flex their creative muscles. SR BVS and MOS all had those lost tales fill in the black prequel comics but even those were a little constrained by having to fit into certain story boundaries. I think it depends on what excites the artist. John Byrne seemed excited to do Superman II's adaptation. Logan's Run I still cite as one of the best ever drawn adaptations with a lot of great flourishes storytelling-wise that couldn't be replicated in live-action. Ironically, Perez said that he hated the movie- but wanted to prove himself. |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 21, 2018 17:37:28 GMT -5
But that starts at the top. If they’re doing something worthwhile they’d put not only the best people on it but people who are the best fit. If they’re just throwing something out there to make a buck without other considerations I can’t blame the people assigned for not being excited.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 22, 2018 5:16:54 GMT -5
But that starts at the top. If they’re doing something worthwhile they’d put not only the best people on it but people who are the best fit. If they’re just throwing something out there to make a buck without other considerations I can’t blame the people assigned for not being excited. True- but I'm certainly glad that Perez pushed himself to make it an awesome adaptation- even if he himself hated the movie. (It doesn't show at all if that's the case). If an artist genuinely doesn't give a darn about what they're drawing (I've been there) then I can understand poor output--- but it is a sad waste of time and effort if it's going to be half-arsed. |
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