Post by Metallo on Sept 12, 2018 10:34:41 GMT -5
www.joblo.com/movie-news/henry-cavill-reportedly-hanging-up-the-cape-as-superman-in-the-dceu-125
I’m relieved the last vestiges of the Snyder era are being purged. I know a lot of people liked Cavill in the role but it’s bummed me out for years that as a viewer I was stuck with him. It meant we’d never get a truly fresh new take on the big screen as long as he was around.
I had a feeling WB was giving up on Superman when they gave the tv division permission to use Superman and Lois Lane so heavily. They’d have never done that if Snyderman had been an undeniable success. When I put myself in the mindset of a not very creative WB executive it’s easy to think that the common denominator in the last four underperforming films with Superman was the character himself. In their minds no on is interested in Superman. That’s not true but I bet that’s how they’re spinning it to themselves.
Cavill’s a fool for not taking the deal they offered. He should have left his schedule open for Shazam which could have helped in rehabilitating his character. It was a mistake playing hardball and asking for a big raise unless he wanted out of the role. He's never gonna get a guaranteed gig like this again (WB seems to be unwilling to reboot the DC film universe).
This Superman had the advantages that come with a shared universe whereas previous Supermens tenures ended when their films/shows did. Cavill could have continued appearing in other DC films. It’s something to fall back on that Routh or Cain never had.
I’m happy since Cavill sucked imo. Sure he had the looks but he was boring and bland and turned in some pretty monotone deliveries. Most of that fell on the scripts and directors but he never showed much nuance or layers in his performances either.
Reeve and Reeves had charm and charisma in the role and it made them likable. Even in terrible films or episodes they always delivered. Cain brought a relatable human element to Clark Kent that Cavill’s lacked even though his Superman didn’t quite measure up. Routh also handled the lighter material better.
Sure the scripts didn’t give Cavill those kinds of opportunities very often but when he did get them he came off as very stiff. Reeve would have taken the exact same material Cavill had in Justice Leage and put ten times the shine on it because while he wasn’t a great actor he had the ability to bounce from genre to genre from drama to humor effortlessly in a way that Cavill didn’t.
I never understood why some people thought he was great. You look at some of his contemporaries and they act circles around him. Clearly WB could do better casting someone else.
HENRY CAVILL REPORTEDLY HANGING UP THE CAPE AS SUPERMAN IN THE DCEU
57 minutes agoby: Matt Rooney
For anyone hoping they would get to see Henry Cavill soar through the sky once more as Superman – preferably in MAN OF STEEL 2 – today is about to get off to a rough start. A new report from The Hollywood Reporter claims that despite Superman being reborn with a new lease on life and playful attitude in JUSTICE LEAGUE, Cavill’s time as the Man of Steel is coming to end as Warner Bros. and DC are looking to hit the “restart” button on some of their properties.
Cavill, who has appeared in three movies as Superman in the DCEU – MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN V. SUPERMAN and JUSTICE LEAGUE – is said to be hanging up the cape after attempts to get more appearances of the character on-screen have failed. The most recent attempt was to have him cameo in the upcoming movie SHAZAM!, but contract negotiations between WB and Cavill's reps began to crumble.
On top of that Cavill has accepted the lead role in Netflix’s THE WITCHER series, which would effectively take up a lot of his time. A source claims that THE WITCHER deal came after the impasse between Cavill and WB regarding the SHAZAM! cameo, while another says him starring in the series is actually attributing to scheduling conflicts with appearing in the movie (even though the show hasn't even begun to start production). Deadline was able to confirm that Cavill's work on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - FALLOUT also contributed to the scheduling conflicts.
Whatever the deal with the cameo is, Cavill has few opportunities to show up as Supes, and given that a MAN OF STEEL sequel would be years away, the odds of him returning to the blue suit are growing thinner and thinner. One studio source told THR, “Superman is like James Bond, and after a certain run you have to look at new actors.”
Word is that DC is also shifting focus off Superman and setting their sights on the in-development SUPERGIRL movie, currently being scripted by Oren Uziel. The piece cites that the SUPERGIRL movie would be an origin story for the teen superhero, which would mean Kal-El/Superman would be an infant during the movie - meaning no room for Cavill. However, the CW SUPERGIRL show has included a grown Superman once or twice, which mean the movie could work that out too if they wanted.
Neither Cavill, his reps or the studio have confirmed the news, so a lot can change on this front. Perhaps the studio and Cavill can come to an arrangement to keep him around or to have him show up in another movie soon. The odds of that seem unlikely, as the slate of movies beyond WONDER WOMAN 1984 (which will have no Superman) is a bit unclear.
It would be a darn shame if he left the part, as JL left him with plenty of room to grow. Some may not have liked his more dramatic, grounded take on the character, but come the end of JL we started to see signs of the more optimistic, truly heroic Superman we didn't see in the previous outings. The point is he had more adventures left in him, but sadly, the box office and critical reception to the DC films (sans WONDER WOMAN) has led to the shift in strategy and focus from WB and DC. We will keep you up to date should anything develop or change.
57 minutes agoby: Matt Rooney
For anyone hoping they would get to see Henry Cavill soar through the sky once more as Superman – preferably in MAN OF STEEL 2 – today is about to get off to a rough start. A new report from The Hollywood Reporter claims that despite Superman being reborn with a new lease on life and playful attitude in JUSTICE LEAGUE, Cavill’s time as the Man of Steel is coming to end as Warner Bros. and DC are looking to hit the “restart” button on some of their properties.
Cavill, who has appeared in three movies as Superman in the DCEU – MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN V. SUPERMAN and JUSTICE LEAGUE – is said to be hanging up the cape after attempts to get more appearances of the character on-screen have failed. The most recent attempt was to have him cameo in the upcoming movie SHAZAM!, but contract negotiations between WB and Cavill's reps began to crumble.
On top of that Cavill has accepted the lead role in Netflix’s THE WITCHER series, which would effectively take up a lot of his time. A source claims that THE WITCHER deal came after the impasse between Cavill and WB regarding the SHAZAM! cameo, while another says him starring in the series is actually attributing to scheduling conflicts with appearing in the movie (even though the show hasn't even begun to start production). Deadline was able to confirm that Cavill's work on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - FALLOUT also contributed to the scheduling conflicts.
Whatever the deal with the cameo is, Cavill has few opportunities to show up as Supes, and given that a MAN OF STEEL sequel would be years away, the odds of him returning to the blue suit are growing thinner and thinner. One studio source told THR, “Superman is like James Bond, and after a certain run you have to look at new actors.”
Word is that DC is also shifting focus off Superman and setting their sights on the in-development SUPERGIRL movie, currently being scripted by Oren Uziel. The piece cites that the SUPERGIRL movie would be an origin story for the teen superhero, which would mean Kal-El/Superman would be an infant during the movie - meaning no room for Cavill. However, the CW SUPERGIRL show has included a grown Superman once or twice, which mean the movie could work that out too if they wanted.
Neither Cavill, his reps or the studio have confirmed the news, so a lot can change on this front. Perhaps the studio and Cavill can come to an arrangement to keep him around or to have him show up in another movie soon. The odds of that seem unlikely, as the slate of movies beyond WONDER WOMAN 1984 (which will have no Superman) is a bit unclear.
It would be a darn shame if he left the part, as JL left him with plenty of room to grow. Some may not have liked his more dramatic, grounded take on the character, but come the end of JL we started to see signs of the more optimistic, truly heroic Superman we didn't see in the previous outings. The point is he had more adventures left in him, but sadly, the box office and critical reception to the DC films (sans WONDER WOMAN) has led to the shift in strategy and focus from WB and DC. We will keep you up to date should anything develop or change.
I’m relieved the last vestiges of the Snyder era are being purged. I know a lot of people liked Cavill in the role but it’s bummed me out for years that as a viewer I was stuck with him. It meant we’d never get a truly fresh new take on the big screen as long as he was around.
I had a feeling WB was giving up on Superman when they gave the tv division permission to use Superman and Lois Lane so heavily. They’d have never done that if Snyderman had been an undeniable success. When I put myself in the mindset of a not very creative WB executive it’s easy to think that the common denominator in the last four underperforming films with Superman was the character himself. In their minds no on is interested in Superman. That’s not true but I bet that’s how they’re spinning it to themselves.
Cavill’s a fool for not taking the deal they offered. He should have left his schedule open for Shazam which could have helped in rehabilitating his character. It was a mistake playing hardball and asking for a big raise unless he wanted out of the role. He's never gonna get a guaranteed gig like this again (WB seems to be unwilling to reboot the DC film universe).
This Superman had the advantages that come with a shared universe whereas previous Supermens tenures ended when their films/shows did. Cavill could have continued appearing in other DC films. It’s something to fall back on that Routh or Cain never had.
I’m happy since Cavill sucked imo. Sure he had the looks but he was boring and bland and turned in some pretty monotone deliveries. Most of that fell on the scripts and directors but he never showed much nuance or layers in his performances either.
Reeve and Reeves had charm and charisma in the role and it made them likable. Even in terrible films or episodes they always delivered. Cain brought a relatable human element to Clark Kent that Cavill’s lacked even though his Superman didn’t quite measure up. Routh also handled the lighter material better.
Sure the scripts didn’t give Cavill those kinds of opportunities very often but when he did get them he came off as very stiff. Reeve would have taken the exact same material Cavill had in Justice Leage and put ten times the shine on it because while he wasn’t a great actor he had the ability to bounce from genre to genre from drama to humor effortlessly in a way that Cavill didn’t.
I never understood why some people thought he was great. You look at some of his contemporaries and they act circles around him. Clearly WB could do better casting someone else.
