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Post by Metallo on May 17, 2019 15:11:45 GMT -5
Four spots for big screen superheroes and four for super villains.
My hero one would probably be: Chris Evans as Captain America, Christopher Reeve as Superman, Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man, and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.
My runner ups would be: Christian Bale as Batman, Michael Keaton as Batman, James McAvoy as Professor X, Patrick Stewart as Professor X, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, and Chris Hemsworth as Thor.
Villains would probably be: Josh Brolin as Thanos, Heath Ledger as The Joker, Ian McKellan as Magneto, and Tom Hiddleston as Loki.
Runner ups would be: Terrence Stamp as General Zod, Michael Fassbender as Magneto, Michael B Jordan as Killmonger, Jack Nicholson as Joker, Michecke Pfeiffer as Catwoman, and Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor.
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Post by atp on May 18, 2019 7:21:13 GMT -5
I'm a Reeve Only Person, so would have:
- Reeve in stm
- Reeve in s2
- Reeve in s3
- Reeve in s4
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 21, 2019 15:45:17 GMT -5
Four spots for big screen superheroes and four for super villains. My hero one would probably be: Chris Evans as Captain America, Christopher Reeve as Superman, Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man, and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. My runner ups would be: Christian Bale as Batman, Michael Keaton as Batman, James McAvoy as Professor X, Patrick Stewart as Professor X, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, and Chris Hemsworth as Thor. Villains would probably be: Josh Brolin as Thanos, Heath Ledger as The Joker, Ian McKellan as Magneto, and Tom Hiddleston as Loki. Runner ups would be: Terrence Stamp as General Zod, Michael Fassbender as Magneto, Michael B Jordan as Killmonger, Jack Nicholson as Joker, Michecke Pfeiffer as Catwoman, and Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor. Some interesting choices- Mine: Mt. Rushmore to me signifies 'forefathers'--- so these more represent mostly the stars who were in the earliest groundbreaking superhero films: Chris Reeve- Superman Michael Keaton- Batman Tobie McGuire- Spiderman Hugh Jackman- Wolverine Villains Gene Hackman- Luthor Jack Nicholson- Joker (forgot actors' name)- Original Magneto J.k. Simmons- J. Jonah Jameson |
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Post by Metallo on May 21, 2019 16:15:49 GMT -5
Four spots for big screen superheroes and four for super villains. My hero one would probably be: Chris Evans as Captain America, Christopher Reeve as Superman, Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man, and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. My runner ups would be: Christian Bale as Batman, Michael Keaton as Batman, James McAvoy as Professor X, Patrick Stewart as Professor X, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, and Chris Hemsworth as Thor. Villains would probably be: Josh Brolin as Thanos, Heath Ledger as The Joker, Ian McKellan as Magneto, and Tom Hiddleston as Loki. Runner ups would be: Terrence Stamp as General Zod, Michael Fassbender as Magneto, Michael B Jordan as Killmonger, Jack Nicholson as Joker, Michecke Pfeiffer as Catwoman, and Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor. Some interesting choices- Mine: Mt. Rushmore to me signifies 'forefathers'--- so these more represent mostly the stars who were in the earliest groundbreaking superhero films: Chris Reeve- Superman Michael Keaton- Batman Tobie McGuire- Spiderman Hugh Jackman- Wolverine Villains Gene Hackman- Luthor Jack Nicholson- Joker (forgot actors' name)- Original Magneto J.k. Simmons- J. Jonah Jameson Can’t argue with the choices. They’re all good. Never really thought of Mount Rushmore being all about forefathers though. Washington and Jefferson sure but Lincoln and particularly Roosevelt were much later in our nations history. To me Rushmore has always been about influence. Who had the biggest impact and influence on our nations history. That’s why Lincoln is there and I guess you could argue Teddy was not only a historic figure away from the presidency (military service and natural conservation) but he was there at the dawn of 20th Century when a lot of change was going on. I think you could argue FDR should go up there one day if they ever decide to add anyone. The reason I chose the guys I did is to me Downey has had a massive influence on the genre through the MCU. same with Jackman and the modern era of movies as well as impact on his character. I think Evans is the closest thing we have to Reeve’s Superman in this era. Reeve is a no brainier. I thought about Keaton but I don’t think we can choose a definitive Batman since Keaton Bale and West were all incredibly successful in the role and in shaping the genre through that. Hard to pick one over the other. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 21, 2019 17:37:28 GMT -5
I think it's hard for me to separate the joy gotten from sometimes 'the event' (i.e. Burton's Batman especially) from who I thought was best cast in a role.
If so,then my list of 'symbolic' - I"d expand my list- ignoring the limit of 4):
Those who symbolized great 'event' breakthrough superhero films:
#1: Chris Reeve as Superman (Gene Hackman as supporting player) 70's-80's
#2: Michael Keaton as Batman (Jack Nicholson as supporting player) 90's
#3: Tobie Maguire as Spiderman (J.k Simmons as supporting player, moreso than Willem Dafoe actually) 2000's
#4: Hugh Jackman as Wolverine (Patrick Stewart/Ian Mckellan as supporting players--- which is why I thought they really added significance & oompth to DOFP) 2000's
#5: Robert Downey Jr. kicking off the MCU (With Gwyneth as the most memorable supporting player) 2008?
#6: Christian Bale kicking off the 'borderline adult' superhero film with the Dark Knight-
After that... the Spiderman movies, the Fox X-men movies, and the 'new' direction for the DC movies got kicked off...
(I love Brandon Routh in Superman Returns, but that unfortunately didn't get a sequel, so I don't know if it kickstarted a new stage though it rescued the Donner cut and revived interest in the Reeve films for awhile).
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Post by Metallo on May 21, 2019 20:03:05 GMT -5
I think the two can go hand in hand if both are done right. I think a big issue is we’ve seen so much stuff these last 20 years in particular it’s hard to narrow it down to such a small number. I mean someone could argue Wesley Snipes and Blade for what it did for Marvel films in Hollywood and how he and the filmmakers reinvented the character so well that it’s now based on him. Problem is people have come along since that have done even more for longer.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 22, 2019 23:44:16 GMT -5
I think the two can go hand in hand if both are done right. I think a big issue is we’ve seen so much stuff these last 20 years in particular it’s hard to narrow it down to such a small number. I mean someone could argue Wesley Snipes and Blade for what it did for Marvel films in Hollywood and how he and the filmmakers reinvented the character so well that it’s now based on him. Problem is people have come along since that have done even more for longer. That's true.... forgot about Snipes and Blade. It had to have had some influence in the 'superhero movie movement'... but I guess it's hard to tell at times what has a direct and indirect influence on moving that movement forward... Also- It's again weird to stop and think that now we live in a time where there's TOO much superhero material out there to even be able to keep up. |
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Post by Metallo on May 23, 2019 7:55:57 GMT -5
I think there’s too much everything on the big and small screen. I’m overwhelmed to the point that I don’t watch much of anything. Not enough time in the day and too much to watch. The Streaming Wars are getting out of control as well. No ones going to be able to afford all the services unless we go back to a cable model and bundle everything but that
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 24, 2019 14:24:35 GMT -5
I think there’s too much everything on the big and small screen. I’m overwhelmed to the point that I don’t watch much of anything. Not enough time in the day and too much to watch. The Streaming Wars are getting out of control as well. No ones going to be able to afford all the services unless we go back to a cable model and bundle everything but that I can't figure out how some of these streaming services make a profit- particularly Netflix with all of its shows & Amazon Prime (well, I guess the other stuff from Amazon subsidizes it).... |
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Post by Metallo on May 24, 2019 17:03:30 GMT -5
Netflix makes big money but they’re spending more than they earn trying to develop new shows and it’s put them in debt. I think a lot of these services are either operating at a loss for a little while hoping to make it up in the long run or they’re barely scraping by. Some like Amazon can easily eat losses for a long time until they’re profitable.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 24, 2019 23:48:47 GMT -5
Netflix makes big money but they’re spending more than they earn trying to develop new shows and it’s put them in debt. I think a lot of these services are either operating at a loss for a little while hoping to make it up in the long run or they’re barely scraping by. Some like Amazon can easily eat losses for a long time until they’re profitable. I'm not surprised if they're overspending based on how many new shows there are.... but why on earth are they doing so? Is it a board that's being too optimistic or one person that's just overspending like crazy? You're right on Amazon- I'm sure that they can eat losses, but as much as I loved the Lord of the Rings movie series, I don't need to see a $100 million LOTR tv show.... |
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Post by Metallo on May 25, 2019 10:05:43 GMT -5
I think the Lotr show could be good I’m just not convinced they are going to get a ton of people to sign up to watch it. I think for that ridiculous price they’re really overestimating the hunger for their show. You can’t just manufacture the next Game of Thrones.
With Netflix they’re throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. They don’t know how to make a hit even though they desperately need hits. Most people don’t watch the most of the original stuff on there. It was their handful of originals like house of cards and stranger things that people signed up for and most importantly nostalgia shows like Friends, the office, etc. They’re about to lose ALL that because the show owners want them back for their own subscription services.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 26, 2019 20:58:15 GMT -5
I think the Lotr show could be good I’m just not convinced they are going to get me ton of people to sign up to watch it. I think for that ridiculous price they’re really overestimating the hunger for their show. You can’t just manufacture the next Game of Thrones. With Netflix they’re throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. They don’t know how to make a hit even though they desperately need hits. Most people don’t watch the most of the original stuff on there. It was their handful of originals like house of cards and stranger things that people signed up for and most importantly nostalgia shows like Friends, the office, etc. they’re about to lose ALL that because the show owners want them back for their own subscription services. Right... I just don't see that audience for it. If Solo couldn't generate big numbers just because it was a Star Wars movie, I doubt LOTR fans are as excited to see a reboot of a pretty damn good adaptation in the Jackson films. |
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Post by atp on May 27, 2019 10:43:26 GMT -5
Four villains are:
- Reeve in Deathtrap
- Reeve as evil Superman in S3
- Reeve in Above Suspicion
- Reeve in Monsignor
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 27, 2019 18:08:44 GMT -5
Four villains are: - Reeve in Deathtrap - Reeve as evil Superman in S3 - Reeve in Above Suspicion - Reeve in Monsignor  Yes, we really are 'Reeve only' people!  |
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