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Post by Kamdan on Jun 18, 2019 2:40:31 GMT -5
What was everyone’s thoughts on Robert Meyer Burnett‘s take on a Superman Returns sequel he was proposing to Bryan Singer than involved Brainiac? I’ve heard of it recently and totally get what Singer meant when he said he was gonna go Wrath of Khan with the next film. I wasn’t a fan of Returns, but had this approach been taken with the sequel, I definitely would have enjoyed it more and treated Returns much like how Star Trek: The Motion Picture was re-evaluated after the sequels came out. Honestly at this point would have traded it for Man of Steel.
Speaking of Returns, my hometown of Hutchinson, KS is having its annual Smallville Comic Con this Saturday. In preparation, this Friday at our historic Fox Theater, they’re gonna play Superman Returns. I won’t be able to go, but last month they played Superman: The Movie and I definitely took time to see that one. The main event guest is going to be Brandon Routh for the convention. Part of me is curious to know what questions he’s going to be asked due to the controversy with the movie’s director and costar not being in a pleasant light right now. I have a PhotoShopped picture of Routh that makes him more closely resemble Reeve’s Superman with a brighter color and shorter hair cut. Hope he doesn’t get too offended when Routh signs it.
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Post by Metallo on Jun 18, 2019 14:48:57 GMT -5
The basics of it have been out there for a while and I didn’t mind it. Executed right it could have been good in much the same way Singers X2 was a huge jump in quality from X-men. The story of SR was an interesting one but it left them limited options for the future and I think they knew they kind of wrote themselves into a corner for a relaunch. Singers rumored on set behavior probably didn’t help with this sequel being a reality on top of the weak box office performance. WB could have taken a chance by using the concept, keeping Routh, hiring a new director, and convincing Singer to take a producer credit.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 19, 2019 17:59:07 GMT -5
What was everyone’s thoughts on Robert Meyer Burnett‘s take on a Superman Returns sequel he was proposing to Bryan Singer than involved Brainiac? I’ve heard of it recently and totally get what Singer meant when he said he was gonna go Wrath of Khan with the next film. I wasn’t a fan of Returns, but had this approach been taken with the sequel, I definitely would have enjoyed it more and treated Returns much like how Star Trek: The Motion Picture was re-evaluated after the sequels came out. Honestly at this point would have traded it for Man of Steel. Speaking of Returns, my hometown of Hutchinson, KS is having its annual Smallville Comic Con this Saturday. In preparation, this Friday at our historic Fox Theater, they’re gonna play Superman Returns. I won’t be able to go, but last month they played Superman: The Movie and I definitely took time to see that one. The main event guest is going to be Brandon Routh for the convention. Part of me is curious to know what questions he’s going to be asked due to the controversy with the movie’s director and costar not being in a pleasant light right now. I have a PhotoShopped picture of Routh that makes him more closely resemble Reeve’s Superman with a brighter color and shorter hair cut. Hope he doesn’t get too offended when Routh signs it. That's awesome that you're able to attend that showing with Routh as main guest. Met him briefly at a meet/greet event with my nephew, he couldn't be nicer, but it didn't seem a situation where you felt like you could talk at length about Superman Returns (a video interview popped up online by I believe Steve Younis that asked the questions I would have had.)- Glad that he has had enough positive experiences with people who really were moved by the film so that he seems able to appreciate the good work done on the film and know that enough people enjoyed it. I would be surprised if anyone asks about the elephants on the internet table (I still think the internet has gone overboard- including media- on convicting people who are accused without proof in general, so I have conflicted feelings on it)- but I suspect that the audience would have to know that any questions on a co-star's behavior or the guy who brought him into the spotlight is kind of a no-win scenario. If there was extreme behavior, then there's a sense of guilty for not speaking up- If there wasn't, then perhaps Routh could speak to that- but since it's a celebration, it kind of seems like unnecessary to bring back any ugliness if there was any from the past- (unless it helps anyone) but of course there's a human side that's just of course curious and HOPEFUL that the movie doesn't get attached to something disturbing. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 19, 2019 18:08:26 GMT -5
The basics of it have been out there for a while and I didn’t mind it. Executed right it could have been good in much the same way Singers X2 was a huge jump in quality from X-men. The story of SR was an interesting one but it left them limited options for the future and I think they knew they kind of wrote themselves into a corner for a relaunch. Singers rumored on set behavior probably didn’t help with this sequel being a reality on top of the weak box office performance. WB could have taken a chance by using the concept, keeping Routh, hiring a new director, and convincing Singer to take a producer credit. By the way- what article is this referencing? I remember we discussed the rumors around what the treatment was, is this the same? (With Brainiac coming in the form of clones, aging Jason, and fighting Jason at the end?) In any case- I've always been annoyed that they didn't do the sequel since the 'hard work' imo was re-establishing a connection to the Donner version and moving forward at the same time. It's interesting to me that Singer kind of did this with his own X-men universe, where he leapfrogged over the bad X3, started First Class, then re-established a connection to the old version of the Xmen and moved forward with DOFP as well. |
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Post by Metallo on Jun 20, 2019 9:50:15 GMT -5
Yeah it was based around New Krypton still out there in space, brainiac, Jason, etc. I think singer himself has even talked about some of his ideas. Enough time passes and it’ll all trickle out there. If anything I’d like to see WB make it animated. Heck do that with a lot of the scripts they’d got sitting around.
I think they should have just stayed the course and taken a chance by doing a SR2. As has been said do what they did with Star Trek 1 and 2. The DCEU has caused them all kinds of problems by creating this tangled mess that I’m not sure how they continue on from. Half of it worked and half of it was a disaster.
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Post by Kamdan on Jun 22, 2019 20:26:18 GMT -5
I should clarify that the Superman Returns screening and the convention were two different events. Routh was only at the convention. I managed to attend his panel and obtain his autograph with the PhotoShopped picture of him. Nobody brought up Singer or Spacey. It was amusing how highly he spoke of his one scene working with Parker Posey for their one scene together.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 8, 2019 21:47:23 GMT -5
I should clarify that the Superman Returns screening and the convention were two different events. Routh was only at the convention. I managed to attend his panel and obtain his autograph with the PhotoShopped picture of him. Nobody brought up Singer or Spacey. It was amusing how highly he spoke of his one scene working with Parker Posey for their one scene together. That is interesting what an actor chooses to talk about (or not talk about) with working with folks. I admire Routh's also apologizing on-camera to crew if he lost his temper any time during the making of the film- not a lot of celebs or regular folks can apologize, I think more rather than less of people who can do that. I'm glad that he sees the movie as a gift, rather than a curse & fun to see him on Legends of Tomorrow- it seems like a good fit for him. (though I'd still say CW should shape a Superman tv show around him rather than the other guy). |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 9, 2019 10:37:23 GMT -5
Well they can’t do a Superman show without WB signing off. What we’ve got is the most they’re willing to budge. I’d rather it was Routh but I can totally see why they went with their own take for their own creative freedom. Same reason I’m glad it wasn’t Welling and Rosenbaum. It also frees them up to do something with Routh down the line if the opportunity arises.
Rouths a midwestern guy from a relatively small town so he was raised with values fitting a Superman. I’m sure his family kept his head on the ground and made sure he didn’t turn into a diva. Everyone has a bad day so I’d never hold any one time thing against him. Some other people however make that kind of stuff a regular thing on sets. Even with all the money on the line I don’t see how some people work with them.
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